On Monday 22 October 2012 02:27:03 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday 21
October 2012 21:23:21 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday
21 October 2012 19:10:40 oldlaptop wrote:
> Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm?
> > Thanks! Tim
>
> I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users:
+½ - I got one.
Lisi
I suggest you use an Email provider other than AOL for your mailing list
subscriptions; the error code that AOL blocked your messages with is not
caused by the TDE mail server and is detailed at this link:
http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Errors.php#554conb1
I don't use AOL, and although I receive through Gmail, I send through my
ISP,
Zen, which is definitely reputable.
vali.starlink.edu
Is nothing to do with me, so far as I know.
Shall I just go back to ignoring them?
Or should I change to a Zen address for this list?
Lisi
I pulled the AOL address from within the messages forwarded to the list,
so apparently that particular AOL message must have from someone else who
has had trouble in the past. For clarity, can you please forward to me
the last bounce message you have received in its entirety so that I can
investigate the issue?
Here is the text:
----------------------------------------------------
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
at trinity-users-owner(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net.
Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to
have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,
I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list,
without further notice.
Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
send an empty message to:
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send an empty message to:
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Here are the message numbers:
3739
3741
3746
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON(a)vali.starlink.edu>
Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500
Received: by
mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix)
id 357B04560241; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Mail Delivery System)
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
To: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
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Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
This is the mail system at host
mail.pearsoncomputing.net.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
<lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com>om>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.27] said:
550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain.
u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command)
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net
Content-Description: Delivery report
Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns;
mail.pearsoncomputing.net
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X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com
Original-Recipient: rfc822;lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns;
gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from
this domain. u15si3064128igi.43
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:29:16 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jonesy <trinity(a)jonz.net>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
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Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote:
Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?
Huh? No.
The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with:
Reporting-MTA: dns;
vali.starlink.edu
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
trinity-users-return-3521-trinity=jonz.net(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity(a)jonz.net
Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity(a)jonz.net
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns;
mx4.operationenterprise.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
Here's one that Robert Xu inquired of me about (because it was from the
list -- my list message being sent on to him.)
Reporting-MTA: dns;
vali.starlink.edu
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9(a)gmail.com
Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9(a)gmail.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns;
gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted
from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55
Xu's email provider (Gmail) reported "Unauthenticated email is not
accepted from this domain."
Lisi also reported a "warning from trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net"
on September 22, but she did not inlude the report body showing the
reason for the rejection. She showed the headers from the email
notifying her of the rejection -- not the rejection report.
(At least that's what I see at
http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3615 )
I get one rejection notification every 10 days or so. So far the
"warning from trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net" makes it to
me and, so, ezmlm does not think me to be a 'hard bounce' (a
no-longer-valid email addy.)
One thing: I've been on the list since, maybe, back in April (or
earlier), and I only think I've seen this 'problem' in the last 2
months or so.
Jonesy
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Thanks!
Tim
HTH
Lisi