5 Oct
2015
5 Oct
'15
9:40 p.m.
On Monday 05 October 2015 22:11:47 Timothy Pearson wrote:
_And_ you get bad weather. :-(
Yes, that is all valid. I was making one point only - that servers based in
the United States are unreliable. Not that Google is a model to copy.
No, I meant somewhere outside the United States. Though any improvement is
greatly welcomed.
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That is what I have always done and is where we came in. The mirror I had
used for some time had become unreliable and I was looking to change. I
asked on the list about mirrors and Mike said that I should use the
redirector. I have now (after the recent conversation about how to chose a
mirror) reset my sources.list to use a named mirror. So I was only off a
named site for six days.
But that is not what your site says to do, and I did not find the mirrors easy
to find. So it doesn't help with converts.
Having had a very frustrating time trying to
install r14 on a new
install, when I finally succeeded I went to bed. But next morning I came
to update my
desktop - 3.5.13.2 - and couldn't. See the error message above. I am
trying
to proseletise TDE, but I can't when installation and updating are so
horribly unreliable. I convert people, and they say how lovely it is.
Start
using it. Hit problems installing and updating and run away again.
The over-riding problem is that only you have ever run a reliable
repository
ever since I have used TDE.
In that case why don't you simply pick a mirror and use it? From what you
are saying any of the mirrors would be infinitely more reliable than the
main site, so I would strongly suggest doing so. And we keep
being directed to the pearson computing site because it will
direct us to the best mirror, but it doesn't. How the United States
lives with its rotten infrastructure beats me. I suppose it is used to
it, as we
are to our overcrowded roads and ancient train system.
Well, our roads are crumbling and our train system is truly ancient, not
to mention our atrocious public transport (where you take your life in
your hands just to travel). What's really frustrating is the lack of
proper Internet service on top of all that. Google doesn't attempt to rely on the
States:
<quote>
Google data center locations. If you include data centers that are under
construction, Google has 19 locations in the US where they operate data
centers, 12 in Europe, one in Russia, one in South America, and three in
Asia.
</quote>
Google is a multi-billion dollar business that makes money off of selling
your private data to third parties. Are you saying I can start selling
any data I glean from your private systems for my own profit? (NOTE: I
don't do that, and in fact technically _can't_ do that, however the point
on the differing business models is very real and valid.) There is a BIG
difference between grassroots open source (as TDE is) and large
corporation-sponsored "open source" -- the latter works very rarely in the
public interest, and at least in the US is almost always funded by some
not so savory business practices. Even the Linux kernel has some issues
due to its corporate sponsorship; it will never be relicensed as GPLv3
even though over time it is expected that most people will lose the
ability to modify the kernel running on their systems as a result. Scary
stuff! Please,
please, please can the main public facing stuff be somewhere
else?
If you read my prior Email you would know that it _will_ be placed
somewhere else, in 3 - 6 months. In the meantime Slavek and I are working
on a way to mitigate the access issues for certain services, although this
is being done at the expense of security (watch your apt-get output
carefully everyone, and make sure the GPG keys are valid....)
So can they at least please be on reliable servers? And could you spoon-feed
us and give us actual addresses?
Thank you for everything you do, Tim. I'm sorry that I can't help more. But
it is not obvious to me what I could do. Proselytising is obviously
counter-productive. And I help on the list where I can, but that isn't much.
Lisi
Tim
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