Mike Bird composed on 2024-05-31 05:59 (UTC-0700):
gene heskett wrote:
More personal thoughts from a long time user who hasn't been able to install on a debian system since the end of stretch. For newer versions it has been a dependency hell there is no recovery from but a re-install of debian. Items removed to satisfy your dependencies have included glibc for instance. I've complained but no one seems to care, So I'm stuck with thunderbird for email which is always broken somewhere, and xfce4 for a desktop. A generally usable solutiom but not ideal by a long row of apple trees.
I have Debian running on a bunch of boxes, several of them with TDE.
If you're using standard Debian and TDE packages you're welcome to send me your problematic /etc/apt/ and dpkg -l and I'll put them on a test box and see if I can figure out how to get TDE running on your Debian.
But if you're using non-standard packages, or obsolete packages, or a lot of pinning then sorry, I can't help you.
I have 21 64bit PCs running Debian amd64 and 8 32bit PCs running Debian "i386". Each of them has at least Bullseye and Bookworm. Most still have Buster and most have Trixie. Some still have Stretch. Every Trixie is an upgrade from Bookworm. Every Bookworm is an upgrade from Bullseye. Last fresh installation I did may have been Bullseye, but otherwise all Bullseyes were upgrades from Buster. Before that is foggy, but main method of getting new versions eventually became online upgrades, while some were clones from another PC.
TDM is sole DM, and TDE is primary DE on every last one of them to the complete exclusion of all other DEs, except on some IceWM is also present for occasional comparison testing.
Some have a trivial issue "Error - artsmessage; Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting". A bunch have a malformed URL popup on right or main menu click. But, TDM works on all, and the TDE desktop, MC and Konsole run on all, among other apps.
My first email app was Netscape 2.02 on OS/2. It was replaced by Netscape 4, still on OS/2. Mozilla replaced it, and it morphed into SeaMonkey, which I still run 24/7, still with POP, though long ago I migrated email to openSUSE Linux & KDE3. With each openSUSE version upgrade the question comes up whether it's time to switch from KDE3 to TDE. So far the answer has been better to not abandon the remaining openSUSE KDE3 user pool and kde3@lists.opensuse.org subscribers before every TDE bug I reported gets closed fixed.