31 May
2024
31 May
'24
3:20 p.m.
Mike Bird composed on 2024-05-31 05:59 (UTC-0700):
gene heskett wrote:
> More personal thoughts from a long time user who
hasn't been able to
> install on a debian system since the end of stretch. For newer versions
> it has been a dependency hell there is no recovery from but a re-install
> of debian. Items removed to satisfy your dependencies have included
> glibc for instance. I've complained but no one seems to care, So I'm
> stuck with thunderbird for email which is always broken somewhere, and
> xfce4 for a desktop. A generally usable solutiom but not ideal by a long
> row of apple trees.
I have Debian running on a bunch of boxes, several of
them with TDE.
If you're using standard Debian and TDE packages
you're welcome to send
me your problematic /etc/apt/ and dpkg -l and I'll put them on a test box
and see if I can figure out how to get TDE running on your Debian.
But if you're using non-standard packages, or
obsolete packages, or a lot
of pinning then sorry, I can't help you.
I have 21 64bit PCs running Debian amd64 and 8 32bit PCs running Debian "i386".
Each of them has at least Bullseye and Bookworm. Most still have Buster and most
have Trixie. Some still have Stretch. Every Trixie is an upgrade from Bookworm.
Every Bookworm is an upgrade from Bullseye. Last fresh installation I did may have
been Bullseye, but otherwise all Bullseyes were upgrades from Buster. Before that
is foggy, but main method of getting new versions eventually became online
upgrades, while some were clones from another PC.
TDM is sole DM, and TDE is primary DE on every last one of them to the complete
exclusion of all other DEs, except on some IceWM is also present for occasional
comparison testing.
Some have a trivial issue "Error - artsmessage; Sound server fatal error: cpu
overload, aborting". A bunch have a malformed URL popup on right or main menu
click. But, TDM works on all, and the TDE desktop, MC and Konsole run on all,
among other apps.
My first email app was Netscape 2.02 on OS/2. It was replaced by Netscape 4, still
on OS/2. Mozilla replaced it, and it morphed into SeaMonkey, which I still run
24/7, still with POP, though long ago I migrated email to openSUSE Linux & KDE3.
With each openSUSE version upgrade the question comes up whether it's time to
switch from KDE3 to TDE. So far the answer has been better to not abandon the
remaining openSUSE KDE3 user pool and kde3(a)lists.opensuse.org subscribers before
every TDE bug I reported gets closed fixed.
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Felix Miata