31 Jul
2012
31 Jul
'12
1:37 p.m.
Am Sunday 29 July 2012 06:03:41 schrieb Brad Alexander:
Win/OSX = binary, Cathedral style. Does not make a good base for comparison
imo.
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Dexter Filmore
<Dexter.Filmore(a)gmx.de>
wrote:
Well, I've
been telling for years now that we were better off with one
desktop that has the flexibility to adapt to everyone's needs.
Be lightweight without graphical mumbo jumbo if desired, be all the
visual monster with tons of effects, be as simple as a task bar and
systray, be a full blown cornucopia of gadgets if somebody prefer that.
Make it configurable from simply to rocket science, from 486 to i7 but
have ONE API. Offer developers a safe base.
Dexter,
This is the thing that the competitors (e.g. Mac, Windows) have done,
or at least tried to do. I have my own workflow, and am not going to
change it just because someone thinks I should. For Mac and Windows,
they are telling me that I have to do task X in this way and that is
the only way I can do it. If I decide to color outside the lines, then
that is not allowed.
I think that's why many of us have gravitated to Linux. Because of the
freedom to compute in a way that is comfortable for us. Gnome and KDE
have completely different paradigms for how they operate, and I think
that trying to force them into a single box is wrong of you.
If the box is big enough for both?
Not to put too fine a point on it, find a way to
compute that works
for you and go with it. But don't try to dictate to everyone else that
they have to compute in the same way. And don't try to tell the
developers, who are doing this in their free time as a labor of love
that they are doing it wrong.
I don't. I say there should be a standard. And from a certain level on there
isn't.
We agreed on how to address mem, how to address hdd sectors, we agreed on byte
order (mostly, this is where the exceptions start but at least all cases are
covered).
And I've been in the OSS game since last century now and have my part in
growing the community, if I don't get to complain I don't see why I should
contribute.
If the "there is only one way to do it"
paradigm is what fits you, go back to Windows or Mac.
MS/Apple don't listen to me at all. There is no dialog. I don't say I the OSS
community is not for me, I say there are more possibilities and there could
be more archievement than there is.
I've heard similar debates about how there are too many distros. That
we should force all of the distro devs to work on one big unified
distro. So which would it be? RedHat? They are king in the corporate
space. Debian? They have a couple of hundred distros in their progeny.
What about all the specialist distros like Backtrack for
security/pentesting? Or should we stop OpenMediaVault? What about DBAN
or Parted Magic or system rescue cd? And who would make this
decision? I tend to run Debian on the desktop, but have about a dozen
specialist distros on cd or thumb drive.
I never said anything about distros. While I see that BSD has a different
standard, just mentioning as you bring it up.
So, variety being the spice of life, and since you
cannot dictate what
we do with our free time, if we want to contribute to one or more
projects, then I think the best you can do is just say thank you.
Since others gave me the "dictate" thing I assume I conveyed my intention
wrong somewhere.
I wanted to weigh an idea, I'm not telling anyone what to do with their time.
Unless I payed, of course...