20 Dec
2015
20 Dec
'15
7:54 a.m.
Am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2015 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
On Saturday 19 December 2015 13:55:41 Gene Heskett
wrote:
You are using Debian. It is not deprecated. IMHO this no root password
business is part of the creeping Ubuntuisation.
Hi Lisi!
Genes problem is indeed a problem of the linuxcnc live cd, which was formerly based on
ubuntu but is now on wheezy. Somebody on the assembly line liked sudo better than su,
which is quite funny. Now when Gene uses the linuxcnc livesystem (or that installed on a
disk) he ends up with wheezy+ubuntu "make it esy"-stuff aka xfcs/sudo/systemd
etc, which makes things qute interesting when you leave the red flaged paths. On the other
hand, you can install linuxcnc on top of wheezy without that clutter, but you'll need
to know where to go :-)
Nik
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On Saturday 19 December 2015 08:12:09 Michele
Calgaro wrote:
Rubbish! Rubbish! Rubbish! Debian has always had a root password. If you
haven't got one it is because you aren't using a Wheezy but a CNC or soethnig
one. Debian _has_ started giving the option at install tine of not having one
if you don't want one instead of imposing one on you, but basically Wheezy
has a root password.
On 2015/12/19 11:21 AM, Rolf Schmidt wrote:
debian wheezy has never had a root passwd known to the user. You missed the point, it demands a root pw, that
on this wheezy
system,
> does not exist, so it cannot be launched from the menu entry by any
> pw entered. The pw used for doing a sudo is not accepted. That
> was my point.
Again, I see nothing wrong on a general basis.
If you are root (yes, not recommended I know) there is no problem to
run ksysv at all. If you are a standard user, you type in the root
password and everything works.
If your setup does not use a root password or you do not have access
to such password, you have the choice to edit the menu and remove the
ksysv entry. Unless they
follow Nik's proceedure to reset it. It does exist, but is not known to
the first user, so there rather effectively is not one as far as that
first user who has sudo rights is concerned.
Rubbish again.
IMHO, the
menu entry is fine as it is now since it will work as
expected for the majority of the users.
Your idea of the word majority is miss-applied in the modern linux world.
Root password usage is pretty well deprecated by most distro's today, using sudo instead, even in wheezy
Sorry, Gene, but rubbish!
which is considered elderly these
days.
> Unconventional setups will
> need special handling for this type of problem. Just my 2 cents
Quite Michele. The Debian/TDE combination norm for a setup is to have a root
password. It is not as though those who insist on being different cannot
sort it out easily, as you have Gene. But you could always have used Ubuntu,
which does have sudo for the first user by default. <shudder>
Lisi.