Re: [trinity-users] Repositories for TDE was Re: [trinity-users] Slávek's repository

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 Actually, no, you only think you have the answer. DSL is outdated as you say, and there is no way I would be stupid enough to try to run a server farm like this on a DSL line. In fact this location has always been served with a "business class" line from a large provider, it's just that they decided to focus on residential service at the expense of business customers (probably due to people like you that seem to want everything centralised in one spot under the control of a handful of companies, with the resultant highly asymmetric access patterns). They have basically told us "sorry, there's nothing we can do for you, and by the way we have a monopoly on service in your area. Would you like to buy fiber for only $20,000 USD / month?", so the only option left is a move. Also, please remember that TDE is a donated service run by volunteers. I make no money off of this project, and the only reason I still keep it alive is because I use the software internally for business purposes and already invested the time and effort in building the public infrastructure. I will not be investing that amount of time and effort again, so unless you find someone else willing to do it all, for free, to your specifications you will just have to live with the free services the way that they are, until such time as I am able to move them. Yes, I want TDE to be a worldwide project. As Slavek mentioned we have a VPS available overseas and are moving some of the affected services to that machine. Can we move core services like the build farm there? Absolutely not! If you were paying attention to the data transfer amounts and disk space requirements that were previously sent to this list -- just for a mirror of the builds generated on my systems _at my expense_ -- you would begin to understand the reason for the "slow" "unreliable" master server access. It would cost a lot of money, on a monthly basis, just to keep those services running elsewhere, and the donations coming in to the project are so pitiful (with one or two exceptions from generous individuals) that it would be cheaper for me just to yank all public access to all TDE services and develop it internally only. That last sentence brings me to my final point. We have reached the point where we need more developers or more contributing users, not just people that are downloading and using the software. While the latter are nice they do not help to drive the project forward or to even keep it on the Internet -- in fact, they hinder the latter goal. I'm not going to continue this conversation further. From what you are saying you are going to stop promoting TDE, and that's your decision, however I really want you to understand that actions have consequences. Just like the actions of thousands of people clamoring for better cloud services, Netflix/Amazon/etc. movie streaming, etc. have damaged the availability of symmetric Internet connections, if people stop supporting TDE or even promoting it then it will die and disappear. Better warm up those KDE SC 5 or Unity configurations, because that's all we'll have left... Tim