2 Jul
2018
2 Jul
'18
6:21 p.m.
On Monday 02 July 2018 07:33:44 Gene Heskett wrote:
[trimming just a bit ...]
Don't forget that the rock64 is NOT an armhf like the pi's, its a full
arm64. I don't think the compiler is quite ready for a full 64 bit 4
core arm. In any event, the login screen becomes locked if not logged in
within 10 seconds of its appearance. If the screen locker and its pw
requirement could be nuked, that would help since ones pw is no good
with the screen locker, once it kicks in, its power button time to get
back into it. I'd a lot druther it just turned the monitor off in 10 to
20 minutes of inactivity. Barring a prowler in the night, I am the only
one that will ever make new fingerprints on any of these keyboards here.
The paranoid security, as if all this was sitting on a kiosk in Grand
Central Station is extremely anti-productive. In a single user
environment, its very poor quality BS because it only grows resentment.
You ought to be able to diable the screen locker. I never use them except
manually. Like you, I am the only one here, if one doesn't count the
occasional vermin in this building, so there is no reason for ultra-security
about physical access to my machine. When I leave, I lock everything down
manually.
I would not go so far as to say that, because I am forever twiddling the
lcnc configs. Adding a function or expanding the gui. But thats not the
os, its an app, so if I screw it up, the machine keeps on keeping on.
And I see the errors so I can fix it.
Oh, I am a constant fiddler & an habitual twiddler. I just mean that I stay
away from doing a full installation, as I don't quite have it to the point
(as I used to do on my old Hardy Kubuntu machine) where I could go from not
working to completely restored system in about half an hour. However, I am
almost there, and when I get that with my Jessie system, I want to make it so
that upgrades (to Stretch/Ascii) will not be any big deal. But at a glance,
it looks and runs almost exactly like my legendary desktop of yore, the one
that poets used to sing lays about, and that the bards composed epics to
celebrate. It's almost there, but not quite.
Well, I have discussed some of them, and got help, but the solutions don't
quite resolve my issues. And these glitches are annoying, but don't interrupt
my work.
For example, I mentioned in an earlier thread that the GUI of some programs
suddenly gets "bleached" white, like the default KDE3 or maybe Gnome setting?
No matter what I've tried, they refuse to use my system colors. Yet when I
reinstall my system, generally everything returns to normal. This seems to
happen about every third time that I reinstall, without apparent rhyme or
reason. I install everything by specific steps, so this should not change, if
my system itself hasn't changed. And sometimes, if I just reinstall yet
again, immediately, everything is back to normal.
The same with my mount points. I create special mount points for all my extra
hard drives (beyond sda partitions, that is). Some are internal, and continue
to work fine, but my external drives suddenly cannot be mounted except as
root, and remain accessible only within a root environment (for example, if I
open Konqueror as root). This means that I cannot play media files from those
partitions, for example, though I can transfer them back and forth. I have
gone into fstab and mtab settings, examine ownership and permissions, etc.,
and nothing changes. Only one drive, which is formatted as a Linux
filesystem, has become partially accessible, though I still must jump through
hoops to mount it. My other external hard drives remain inaccessible except
when I access them through a root environment; that is, either a root shell,
or by opening Konqueror as root. Yet when I reinstall, most likely this
problem will go away, as again, it only happens maybe on every third
installation (and never happened when I ran Kubuntu Hardy 8.04).
There are a few other annoyances, but as I say, I prefer to keep working at
the moment, rather than spend a day or two reinstalling everything.
However ... unless somebody has some really useful suggestions to make about
how to solve these problems, I am not asking for help. I am just making
observations about some of my minor annoyances. As I said, my system is
getting close to perfect, and then the Dragon Kings will yield their Jewel of
Enlightenment, the President will probably arrange to pin a medal on my
chest, or maybe there will be a Nobel Prize for personal modification of a
desktop environment? Anyway, almost perfect ... *SIGH*
Bill
It might be a good idea, and it may not. But the fact
is that I
have 5 machines here still running wheezy and one jessie, which
wheezy is now officially EOL even for security stuff. Until the lcnc
crew have made up a jessie or stretch installer, So the likelyhood
of my playing with this is quite low.
The jessie install is quite stable, but I have a rock64 running
stretch that while its 20x faster than a pi, has problems with the
login screen that in 6+ months, has not been fixed, so there is no
way I could honestly say stretch is stable. Reboots after an update
are a try this and see if it works, then try that, each one taking a
full 10 second powerdown to get it to even try to reboot.
Yup, I remember that hangup from running Debian with systemd. Once I
changed to Devuan, it no longer hangs on reboot. However, changing
over to Devuan is not necessarily smooth and easy - although some here
would disagree. I think it all depends on what one already has
installed. Until you finally get the ducks in order and a
successful login can
be done. That same rock64 runs jessie perfectly from power
restoration to the next power failure. That I'd call stable.
> > > Be careful, if you haven't used that before; although I
> > > suspect that you know it. Don't make changes there unless you
> > > know what to do.
> > >
> > > Also, look in
> > > Trinity Control Center / Sound & Multimedia / Sound System
> > > Both parts,
> > > General / Hardware
> > > ought to be examined.
On the whole, I agree with your approach, I think, which seems to be:
take it slow, and don't mess with a working system. Even when my
system is not running quite perfectly, it's still better than one that
doesn't run at all, and time wasted with reinstallation. Going off-topic a bit:
[interesting ... but snip ... sorry ... to please Felix ...]
Right now I have a lot of little glitches that
keep building up, but I
have a feeling that most are somehow related, as I've never had them
before; and all are new since installing Devuan. So I mostly just keep
trying to trace the source (or sources) of these issues, waiting until
the inevitable reinstallation ... which could be another month or two.
That shouldn't be the case, Bill.
Cheers, Gene Heskett