19 Dec
2015
19 Dec
'15
8:33 a.m.
Am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2015 schrieb Gene Heskett:
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On Saturday 19 December 2015 02:42:50 Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp wrote:
Hi Gene!
There are no side effects in setting a root password. In fact, there is already a root
password, but it's useless for the user.
If you want to try:
$ sudo bash
# cp /etc/shadow /root/
# passwd
If you have sideffects using sudo, you can always do:
$ su
# cp /root/shadow /etc/
Nik
Hi Gene!
Where's the problem of giving root a password?
nik
The last time I did that, somewhere along about the time of fedora 2, it
destroyed sudo, and I then rebooted single and nuked it, expecting sudo
to come back, but it didn't so reinstall time. I was sick of being Red
Hat's lab rat always suffering from some redhat experiment you couldn't
get fixed, so I used my lappy to pull and burn the cd and bailed to
mandrake, then pclos for a while, but it wasn't at all compatible with
linuxcnc, so I finally went with wheezy for transparent compatibility.
In that regard it has been truly excellent since the latest LCNC is
wheezy based.
Thank deity I had already setup a decent backup (amanda), so the
transistions between distro's, while not painless, has not cost me a lot
of data in the long view.
However, since they want sudo to be used, leaving root passwordless, I
am not fussy as long as it works. But I am not going to set a root PW if
its going to screw up the rest of the stuff that expects sudo to work. Am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2015 schrieb Gene
Heskett:
> On Saturday 19 December 2015 01:52:46 Michele Calgaro wrote:
> > On 12/17/2015 03:06 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Greetings;
> > >
> > > Out of curiosity, I tried to run ksysv from the tde menu.
> > > Can't. If insists on a root pw that does not exist on this
> > > debian wheezy install. A sudo -i in a konsole for me, and it
> > > runs just fine.
> > >
> > > This really ought to be fixed. No biggie for me, but...
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > No issues here (Debian/Stretch) with ksysv. Just typed in the
> > root password and it worked flawlessly. The fact that ksysv
> > requires root password is not surprising since you are playing
> > with the system config. Cheers
> > Michele
>
> You missed the point, it demands a root pw, that on this wheezy
> system, does not exist, so it cannot be launched from the menu entry
> by any pw entered. The pw used for doing a sudo is not accepted.
> That was my point.
>
> Don't put it in the menu's at all if the user cannot use his sudo to
> get the root rights it needs.
>
> I am used to defeating petty attempts to mold linux networking to
> someones idea of consistency, but which is an abject failure where
> one's home network, all behind a good router, is all based on the
> common to all machines /etc/hosts file, with a locally carved in
> granite hostname per machine. Turning network-mangler loose in that
> environment is a no networking disaster, so the first thing you have
> to do on the install reboot, is sudo -i, make the entry's for that
> machine
> in /etc/network/interfaces, chmod +i that file, then nuke the link
> and make a real /etc/resolv.conf, and chmod +i that. If udev hasn't
> played with things and moved eth0 to something else, thats it. Your
> networking Just Works(TM) Then at your leasure you can uninstall
> network-mangler. No use of its burning cpu cycles trying to tear
> down what you just made immutible.
>
> Network-mangler might be of use in the situation where the machine
> is connected directly to the access modem. Thats for folks who do
> not understand the need for an isolating, natting, 20 hungry
> pit-bull guard dogs for a firewall, router. Without that, a windows
> box is owned 30 seconds after the cat5 is plugged in. The linux box
> is at risk but its lower. I haven't worried about that since I
> discovered dd-wrt, which can be reflashed into the better routers.
> To me, its a transparent gateway to the net. To the net, if no port
> forwarding is being done, its a cable with an address with nothing
> on the other end of it.
>
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett