tde-devels November 2011

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Kickoff Ideas
by Calvin Morrison 26 Nov '11

26 Nov '11

Hello all, I have for some time been hacking around with Kickoff, looking to improve it, and make it definitely more TDEish. While it is not our default menu, we do provide it built in. Therefore I think it needs to be as good as it can get. I also think it is of the utmost importance that we follow the TDE HCI model that Tim drew up. This means that some things in the current Kickoff layout are not good. If you look at this link: http://imgur.com/h6xhB I've drawn arrows and other things in reference to what I am explaining here, also I've drawn numbers so it's easy to compare. 1) The width of kickoff takes up much to much real estate, and wasted real estate. My estimate is that we can shave off a good 50-60 pixels off of it to reduce screen space with almost no sacrifice. 2) We need to remove the "search" text field. It does nothing, it is not helpful, it is not intuitive, it is just a waste of space. Remove it, and make the actual search area larger. To make it clear that it is a search bar, we can do like the regular KMenu search does and have grayed out letters saying "search..." 3) We also could either A. remove the search icon entirely or B. shrink it to stop wasting space. Also currently this is a mng file (basically a dead format that never took off). the animation doesn't work. hopefully I can just use a regular pixmap instead. 4) in line with the HCI model on the Etherpad, large buttons are bad. this is not a tablet, and tablet interfaces are not optimal. We can shrink the tabs a bit, (probably 8-10 pixels each) this fits in with 1) to reduce the width. 5) I say we remove this bottom bar entirely. KMenu does not have it. I do not think we need to know what user is and what host. I do not think it is worth the real estate. Also we definitely don't need a link to the website. If people want to go to our website, they will. They don't need a button on the main menu. 6) the kickoff logout dialog is this: "logout?" where as the KMenu shows up a nice dialog with options to hibernate etc. Either barrow this from KMenu or add options for each of these in the menu. Thoughts? Suggestions? Does anyone actually use kickoff? Calvin Morrison

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Missing Help files
by Darrell Anderson 26 Nov '11

26 Nov '11

Quite a few 3.5.13 apps will not show associated Help files. A little investigating reveals the apps that show Help files have the Help files installed at: /opt/trinity/share/doc/kde/HTML Those apps that won't show Help files have the help files installed at: /opt/trinity/share/doc/HTML Is this a build issue at my end? Do I need to specify an explicit install location for help files or is this a configuration bug with the make files? There are quite a few apps like this. Darrell

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Kate: Warn about files modified by foreign processes
by Darrell Anderson 26 Nov '11

26 Nov '11

Does this option work? I have the option disabled. Kate still reminds when a file is changed. Also, does KWrite have the same option or does KWrite inherit that option through the Kate KParts? KWrite also keeps displaying these reminders. Would somebody else confirm this behavior? Thanks. Darrell

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Audio CDs being locked into drive
by Kristopher John Gamrat 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

I have been spending most of the day ripping my audio CDs using KAudioCreator. After each CD finishes, when I go to push the CD drive's eject button, nothing happens, even after several tries. I need to open a terminal and use the eject command as root (normal user doesn't work). When the CD drive is empty, or before I start ripping the inserted CD, the eject button on the drive responds immediately. Can anybody else confirm this? If not, it's probably something on my system. If so, I'm filing a bug report. -- Kristopher Gamrat Ark Linux webmaster http://www.arklinux.org/

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kaudiocreator will not build -- why?
by Darrell Anderson 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

I now realize that kaudiocreator does not build when I build te kdemultimedia package. The build log shows this: checking if kaudiocreator should be compiled... no Why? Darrell

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Configuring Kate (text editor)
by Darrell Anderson 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

This is more of a user question than developer but I'll post here because I use Kate all day to review build scripts, patches, source files, etc. In my KDE 3.5.10 version of Kate I have been long able to use a kludge to keep Kate in MDI (multiple document interface) mode. That is, regardless of what I do, all documents I want to open in Kate all open in the same window. I never have more than one window of Kate open. I use the Documents list window and the tabbar plugin to identify my files. Now that I am using Trinity too, I no longer can apply my kludge. Kate 3.5.13 is very much an SDI (single document interface) app and that frustrates me. I don't like multiple windows being open. Forced grouping does not really help. I am struggling with multiple Kate windows. I get confused when I double-click on a file in Konqueror and the file opens in Yet Another Window of Kate rather than the one I have open. Seems the only way I can control this is to open all files from within Kate and that is inconvenient too. How do I go about forcing all documents that I open in Kate to appear in the same window? Second, is there a better Quick Launch button that just opens Kate? I dislike the popup menu where I have to select how I want Kate to open. To me the idea of Quick Launch buttons is one click. Thanks. Darrell

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UPower test
by Serghei Amelian 24 Nov '11

24 Nov '11

Hello, There is first attempt to create a layer between TDE and UPower. Also, there is a small GUI test application, which collect and display all possible information about battery. API documentation: http://www.thel.ro/upower/annotated.html Classes following closely UPower specs: http://upower.freedesktop.org/docs/ref-dbus.html Feedback and suggestions are welcome. Download: (~100k) http://www.thel.ro/tdelibs.tar.gz cmake should be run from top of source tree (tdelibs). -- Serghei

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proposal package: kima
by Alexis PM 24 Nov '11

24 Nov '11

Hello I want to propose the following package to be included in TDE: kima ( http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33257 ). This applet monitors various temperature, frequency and fan sources in your kicker panel. I use it and I find it very useful. Congratulate you for keeping alive the continuation of kde3. Thanks!

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KOffice Suite
by Darrell Anderson 24 Nov '11

24 Nov '11

This past summer there was a discussion about deprecating KOffice. Fortunately this plan was abandoned. KOffice includes the following apps: KWord: Word Processing KSpread: Spreadsheets KPresenter: Slide Presentations Karbon14: Scalable Graphics Drawing KPlato: Project Management Kexi: Database Creator Kugar: Database Report Generator KChart: Chart and Graph Creator Kivio: Flowchart and Diagram Editing Chalk: Painting and Image Editing KFormula: Formula Editor If this suite is advertised as a personal office suite rather than professional the apps remain viable for many Trinity users. The tight integration with TDE is a bonus too. I hope KOffice is not removed from the Trinity line, but I am wondering how much work is involved to package the apps separately. Likely there would need to be a koffice-base package that contains all the common libraries, headers, etc. I seem to recall once upon a time the developers for one of the distros doing this, but my memory gets fuzzy these days. :) Is separate packages feasible and doable? Just asking. :) Darrell

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FAQ: Isn't Qt3 obsolete and dead technology?
by Darrell Anderson 24 Nov '11

24 Nov '11

OK, now I have your attention. :) I want to add that question to our upcoming FAQ. Would some of you devs answer this question? I'll consolidate the answers for the FAQ. Thanks! Darrell

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