tde-devels November 2011

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Trinity 3.5.13 doesn't find login splash theme

by Darrell Anderson

I'm testing 3.5.13. I opened the Control Center to change the startup splash theme. The theme is installed in /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes. File permissions are the same as every other system around here. The theme does not appear in the pick list of themes. I tested this with both a migrated (and cleaned) KDE3 profile and a virgin Trinity profile. Same result. Logging in as root is the same, so more than likely this is not a permissions problem. Any ideas? Darrell

13 years, 3 months

3.5.13 Usability -- KDE 4 Takes Over

by Darrell Anderson

I'm testing my 3.5.13 packages. I'm running Slackware 13.1 in a virtual machine. Full stock installation. KDE 4 is installed. All KDE 3.5.10 packages have been removed. Every time I started Trinity the Akonadi server dialog appeared, the desktop changed to KDE 4 Desktop View, and the KDE 4 file indexer started. Long story short: I traced the problem to the Trinity startkde script. The default 3.5.13 Trinity startkde script incorrectly sets the $KDEDIRS environment variable and includes the /usr directory. That means KDE 4 apps start when starting Trinity. The $KDEDIRS environment variable is intended to be a user defined variable and should not be set globally. Further review of startkde shows duplication of code and some code in the KDEHOME section that makes no sense. Even if somebody explains why $KDEDIRS should be set in startkde, somebody still needs to explain why /usr is in that path. I will file a bug report. Before I do that I would appreciate comments and observations from other people regarding startkde. Other people must be running into this same problem. :) Thanks! Darrell Darrell

13 years, 3 months

Will Trinity and KDE 3.5.10 Coexist?

by Darrell Anderson

If both desktop environments are built to install to different locations, can the desktops coexist peacefully or will there be problems? I know Trinity is supposed to coexist peacefully with KDE 4 so why not KDE 3 too? Has anybody successfuly tried this? I ask because I need to test my packages on a real machine after testing in a virtual machine. My only candidates for this testing have KDE 3.5.10 installed. I want to know ahead of time what kind of problems I might or will experience. Thanks! Darrell

13 years, 3 months

Branding issue

by Darrell Anderson

In 3.5.13 KPersonalizer, System Behavior (second screen) the option KDE (TM) should be TDE (TM). Let me know if this is easily fixed in SVN/GIT. If not I'll file a bug report. Darrell

13 years, 3 months

Wiki Heading

by Darrell Anderson

The wiki heading says KDE3/Trinity Desktop Environment. We should change that to only Trinity Desktop Environment. Darrell

13 years, 3 months

Improving the Web Site and Adding Documentation

by Darrell Anderson

Do we have access to the old KDE web site pages? The Trinity web site provides no package description pages like the old KDE web site. I think we could use such pages. I'm no HTML expert but if we have an archive of the old kde web site I am willing to help massage the old pages into Trinity pages. Second, I noticed when building the 3.5.13 packages from tarballs that some of the old /usr/doc files were not part of the binary packages. Fair enough, most of that was stale and useless. However, there is a readme file in every package and the file says nothing more than to visit the wiki to learn how to build each package. The wiki is lacking in specific package information. I can update the wiki but I don't know what is relevant. That is, I had to heavily patch a few 3.5.13 packages in Slackware, but I don't know whether that is true for other distros. I had to do some serious head scratching to get some packages to build and having specific information would have helped. Perhaps an improved approach is to create a wiki page for each package with instructions for building. That documentation should be duplicated in the package readme file. Many of the pages will be repetitive because they require nothing different or unique. Or create individual pages only for those packages that require different build options. Certainly any package that requires one or more patches needs that information. Lastly, long ago I mentioned the idea of a Trinity user's guide. Something that allows multiple output options, such as HTML, and PDF. Packagers could add a desktop icon to the generic user profile and first time users would see the icon right away. Several distro maintainers do this and I always liked the idea. The user's guide would be part of the Trinity web site too. I am willing to help. I'm not demanding anything :) --- just trying to start conversations. I welcome that GIT and bug quashing have priority for 3.5.14. I want that to succeed --- especially the bug quashing. :) I think documentation is something that can grow and mature on the side. Do we need a plan? Darrell

13 years, 3 months

OpenBSD port proposition

by Vadim Zhukov

Hello all. I'm currently working on porting fresh KDE 4 to OpenBSD (there were attempts earlier but without that much success) and currently seeking for the ways to make KDE 3 (which OpenBSD already have in ports, and it's working well) and upcoming KDE 4 co-exist. Not so long (shame on me!) ago I was notified about the existence of Trinity Desktop. One of the main goals of Trinity, as I've seen, is the co-existence of KDE 3 and KDE 4 too. This way I became interested in porting Trinity to OpenBSD, replacing KDE 3. So the question is: will you accept patches for OpenBSD? Some "desktop" projects turn Linux-only nowadays, and nobody want to constantly maintain all the patches that obviously will be needed for porting on a different O/S with different kernel and specifics. From my own side, I can help in porting to Qt4 and, of course, in making Trinity and KDE 4 build and run simultaneously. Thanks in advance for your reply, and all the best to Trinity. :) -- WBR, Vadim Zhukov

13 years, 3 months

Using KDM

by Darrell Anderson

I would appreciate comments/observations from people who have tested using Trinity KDM to run KDE 4 and KDE 4 KDM to run Trinity. Thanks. Darrell

13 years, 3 months

Proposed About/FAQ Draft

by Darrell Anderson

I started a proposed draft of a new About/FAQ page for the web site. You'll find the document in the Etherpad "Official FAQ and Q&A" pad. This is a PROPOSED document. Please keep the document internal to Etherpad members. I volunteer to coordinate editorial changes but prefer to forward the final document to the webmaster for updating the web site. Who is the webmaster? Please use the original text document I submitted (you'll find that in the Etherpad) and forward your mark up to me so I can diff the files. This is a draft process. Nothing is etched in stone. Nothing yet is being uploaded to the web site. How do we want to approve the final copy of the draft? Darrell

13 years, 3 months

Fwd: Re: [trinity-devel] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] The release notes/product highlights for 12.1

by Serghei Amelian

Hello, I really dislike this kind of childish conflicts :( ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Fwd: Re: [trinity-devel] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] The release notes/product highlights for 12.1 Date: Saturday 12 November 2011, 00:10:49 From: Ilya Chernykh <anixxsus(a)gmail.com> To: Serghei Amelian <serghei(a)thel.ro> Hi, Sergei! Since Pearson accused me in criminal violations and banned from the mailing list, please forward my last response which I was unable to post with an answer about crimes I allegedly commited. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Serghei

13 years, 3 months

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