Tim,
you have a plan to rename packages kio-apt, kio-locate and
kio-umountwrapper? If so, will be also renamed GIT repositories?
By now kio-apt/debian/rules and kio-umountwrapper/debian/rules in
tde-packaging refer to tdeio-* names, but changelog files still contains
current kio-* names. That's probably wrong, but I do not know what
version is intended as a future right.
Slavek
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Hello everyone,
During the current work on repairing unintended renames I often use to bulk
commit commit_all_submodules script. That's why I worked on some of the
improvements.
The first change is that I moved "git pull" after check whether in the module
are any changes to push to the server. The advantages are two:
1) If the module does not contain changes, it is omitted both - pull and push.
Step to pushing changes to the server can be significantly faster.
2) In general commit to 'tde' are not included unrelated changes in the
modules in which was pushed commits from some other developers.
The second change is that I added to "git pull" option --rebase. The advantage
is that if changes were made on both sides - on the server and also in the
local git clone, then instead of merge temporary local branch are local
changes "rebased" to current HEAD on the server in order to maintain linear
history without unnecessary merges. As you can see on my commits to
master 'tde' repository.
What is your opinion on the use of "--rebase"?
Note: Attached is both - both script and diff.
Slavek
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>This is just a quick heads-up notice to the TDE development team
>that the
>major library and header renaming effort has reached its logical
>conclusion, and that no additional major API/ABI changing renaming
>efforts
>are likely for R14.0.0. While a number of binary files are still
>using
>their old KDE names, this should not interfere with the usage of
>KDE 4+
>libraries within TDE if such usage is desired.
>
>All packages build properly as of this point, and as an added
>bonus Raring
>support is now available in the nightly builds PPA.
>
>The patchset generator is also back online as of this writing.
>
>If you have any questions, as always please feel free to ask!
* Will the bug tracker next receive attention?
* What is the target release date for R14?
Darrell
This is just a quick heads-up notice to the TDE development team that the
major library and header renaming effort has reached its logical
conclusion, and that no additional major API/ABI changing renaming efforts
are likely for R14.0.0. While a number of binary files are still using
their old KDE names, this should not interfere with the usage of KDE 4+
libraries within TDE if such usage is desired.
All packages build properly as of this point, and as an added bonus Raring
support is now available in the nightly builds PPA.
The patchset generator is also back online as of this writing.
If you have any questions, as always please feel free to ask!
Tim
If you want to use KDE 3.5.10 I recommend you install a outdated and
insecure distro. Trinity has changed, but also improved KDE3. If you want
kde 3.5.10 then don't bother with Trinity. Trinity is a thing unto itself,
but lives in the spirit of KDE3.
On 25 February 2013 10:10, C W <elcaseti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> To clarify, I'm not suggesting that Alexandre (or anyone else) be
> encouraged to stop making his spin available to others. I am suggesting
> that someone else may want to make another spin of PCLOS TDE in addition to
> Alexandre's version.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:00 AM, C W <elcaseti(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe the best solution to this issue is for one or more of the TDE
>> purists (who want TDE to be exactly like KDE 3.5.10, as far as I can tell),
>> to make a version of PCLOS with TDE & nothing borrowed from KDE4. The only
>> downside to that I can think of would be possible fragmentation like Lisi
>> mentioned.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Elcaset
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano <steve(a)pearwood.info>wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/02/13 12:32, Alexandre Couture wrote:
>>>
>>> Well that's getting a real joke! Once again!
>>>> I am not a software developer. I don't know how to make a computer
>>>> program.
>>>> And you tell me that I have added an option to TDE? Certainly not.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You have changed the default settings. That is what I mean by adding an
>>> option.
>>> My apologies for the confusion.
>>>
>>> Alexandre, I am sorry that I have upset you. I think it is very
>>> important for
>>> us all to be grateful for your efforts at packaging Trinity. Thank you
>>> again.
>>>
>>> But gratitude is not "all, or nothing". I believe that we should be
>>> thankful
>>> for your work in packaging Trinity, but *not* thankful that your package
>>> makes Trinity more like KDE 4, and less consistent with Trinity on other
>>> Linux distros.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steven
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What is the status of the Trinity project?
The commit web page has not been updated since Feb. 10.
There are no announcements or communication in the dev mail list.
What is the R14 release date?
Darrell
Tim,
looking at the recent changes in the tde-packaging I see several varieties of
adverse renaming. For example:
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chalkselectiontools.la
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chalkselectiontools.so
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chalkselectopaque.la
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chalkselectopaque.so
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chaltdeselectiontools.la
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chaltdeselectiontools.so
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chaltdeselectopaque.la
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chaltdeselectopaque.so
...and many other chalk* => chaltde*
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/share/apps/kplato/reports/.source/tasklist.ktf
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/share/apps/kplato/reports/tasklist.desktop
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/share/apps/kplato/reports/.source/tastdelist.ktf
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/share/apps/kplato/reports/tastdelist.desktop
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/tdeparts/dockmainwindow.h
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/tdeparts/doctdemainwindow.h
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/tdetexteditor/blockselectioninterface.h
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/tdetexteditor/bloctdeselectioninterface.h
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/kopete/ui/addressbookselectordialog.h
-debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/kopete/ui/addressbookselectorwidget.h
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/kopete/ui/addressbootdeselectordialog.h
+debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/kopete/ui/addressbootdeselectorwidget.h
In addition, some partial repairs but also other adverse renaming:
---- kiosktool/tdeiosktool/tdeioskrun.cpp 2005-04-25 10:46:33.000000000
+0100
-+++ kiosktool/tdeiosktool/tdeioskrun.cpp 2007-07-20 16:56:07.000000000
+0100
+--- kiosktool/kiosktool/tdeioskrun.cpp 2005-04-25 10:46:33.000000000
+0100
++++ kiosktool/kiosktool/tdeioskrun.cpp 2007-07-20 16:56:07.000000000
+0100
-+ return "Error in Kiosktool Kubuntu modifications";
++ return "Error in Kiostdetool Kubuntu modifications";
These are just some examples, which I happened to notice. I'm afraid that it
will take a lot of eyes, to reveal all the adverse renaming. I think it is
right to make this great renaming before release final R14, but I believe
that the recently proposed date for release final R14 need to be revisited.
Slavek
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>You can probably start your builds again, though a few of the
>larger/more
>obscure packages such as tdebindings will likely fail to build at
>this time.
And just as importantly, the commits web page is again updating so
I know what happened and where to debug should problems arise. :)
Darrell
>Should be nearly stable again at this point; I successfully ran a
>combined
>TDE/KDE4 program for the first time tonight but there is at least
>one
>minor crash I need to correct/test.
>
>You can probably start your builds again, though a few of the
>larger/more
>obscure packages such as tdebindings will likely fail to build at
>this time.
I'll update my GIT repo and start running build sets when we are
informed all packages build without error. Please let us know when
all packages build. :)
Darrell
