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tmix - replacement for kmix for pulseaudio.
by Calvin Morrison 11 Aug '26

11 Aug '26

hi guys, please see this repo and give feedback if you cane it is a pulseaudio based mixer for TDE. it's similar to kmix but not identical. It's similar to pavucontrol-qt but not identical. If you can build it, let me know, if you cannot build it, let me know if you like it... let me know! maybe it could go upstream at some point into tdemultimedia, it would take work, translations, a help guide, probably minimally also an ALSA backend as well. https://git.ceux.org/tmix.git/ thank you all

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Re: Your message to devels@trinitydesktop.org awaits moderator approval
by Felix Miata 31 May '26

31 May '26

François Andriot composed on 2026-05-26 16:06 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata a écrit : >> https://paste.centos.org/view/raw/72b10f3b will expire in 23 hours, is log of >> failure to update trinity packages for 9 to those for 10. > From what I understand, you have trouble installing TDE 14.1.6 packages > on mga10, after installing mga9 packages. > I see suspicious messages regarding insecure SHA1 signatures. > I understand that SHA1 is now considered insecure and should be avoided. > But the mga10 packages are signed using SHA256. > So the error maybe related to the older mga9 packages that are already > installed ? > I've just tested installing a fresh MGA10 virtual machine. > Then following the Trinity wiki instructions. > I have no problem installing and running TDE 14.1.6. No signature > problem at all. Happened again on another host, upgraded from 9 w/ 14.1.5, to 10 on 8 Feb., with no enabled TDE repos during the upgrade, and no updates since before today. Today I added the TDE repos for 10 prior to beginning today's upgrade from the 8 Feb. state. I doubt this would be reproducible starting with a fresh 9 install to start with as you did. # inxi -S System: Host: gx62b Kernel: 6.18.9-desktop-1.mga10 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Console: pty pts/1 Distro: Mageia 10 # urpmi.update -a medium "Core Release" is up-to-date medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date medium "Core Updates Testing" is up-to-date medium "Nonfree Release" is up-to-date medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date medium "Tainted Release" is up-to-date medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date medium "trinity" is up-to-date medium "trinity-noarch" is up-to-date # time urpmi --auto-select | tee > /tmp/urpmilog.txt error: Verifying a signature using certificate 71236F0FF403B2B663E744111DBAA9EB2AB131C6 (Trinity Desktop Environment (RPM Signing Key) <francois.andriot(a)free.fr>): 1. Certificate 1DBAA9EB2AB131C6 invalid: policy violation because: No binding signature at time 2025-11-22T13:52:08Z because: Policy rejected non-revocation signature (PositiveCertification) requiring second pre-image resistance because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 2023-02-01T00:00:00Z 2. Certificate 1DBAA9EB2AB131C6 invalid: policy violation because: No binding signature at time 2026-05-31T16:03:54Z because: Policy rejected non-revocation signature (PositiveCertification) requiring second pre-image resistance because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 2023-02-01T00:00:00Z error: Verifying a signature using certificate 71236F0FF403B2B663E744111DBAA9EB2AB131C6 (Trinity Desktop Environment (RPM Signing Key) <francois.andriot(a)free.fr>): 1. Certificate 1DBAA9EB2AB131C6 invalid: policy violation because: No binding signature at time 2025-11-22T13:52:08Z because: Policy rejected non-revocation signature (PositiveCertification) requiring second pre-image resistance because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 2023-02-01T00:00:00Z 2. Certificate 1DBAA9EB2AB131C6 invalid: policy violation because: No binding signature at time 2026-05-31T16:03:54Z because: Policy rejected non-revocation signature (PositiveCertification) requiring second pre-image resistance because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 2023-02-01T00:00:00Z error: Verifying a signature using certificate 71236F0FF403B2B663E744111DBAA9EB2AB131C6 (Trinity Desktop Environment (RPM Signing Key) <francois.andriot(a)free.fr>): 1. Certificate 1DBAA9EB2AB131C6 invalid: policy violation because: No binding signature at time 2025-11-22T13:52:08Z because: Policy rejected non-revocation signature (PositiveCertification) requiring second pre-image resistance because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 2023-02-01T00:00:00Z 2. Certificate 1DBAA9EB2AB131C6 invalid: policy violation because: No binding signature at time 2026-05-31T16:03:54Z because: Policy rejected non-revocation signature (PositiveCertification) requiring second pre-image resistance because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 2023-02-01T00:00:00Z ... error: Verifying a signature using certificate 71236F0FF403B2B663E744111DBAA9EB2AB131C6 (Trinity Desktop Environment (RPM Signing Key) <francois.andriot(a)free.fr>): 1. Certificate 1DBAA9EB2AB131C6 invalid: policy violation because: No binding signature at time 2026-04-28T07:37:23Z because: Policy rejected non-revocation signature (PositiveCertification) requiring second pre-image resistance because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 2023-02-01T00:00:00Z 2. Certificate 1DBAA9EB2AB131C6 invalid: policy violation because: No binding signature at time 2026-05-31T16:17:04Z because: Policy rejected non-revocation signature (PositiveCertification) requiring second pre-image resistance because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 2023-02-01T00:00:00Z Preparing... ########################################################################################################################################################## Installation failed: package lib64tqt3-mt-3.5.0-14.1.6_1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package lib64dbus-1-tqt0-2:0.9-14.1.6_1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package lib64art_lgpl_2-2-2:2.3.22-14.1.6_1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package lib64tqt4-2:4.2.0-14.1.6_1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdebase-runtime-data-common-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdebase-data-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-ksysguardd-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-filesystem-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-arts-2:1.5.10-14.1.6_1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package lib64avahi-tqt1-2:0.6.30-14.1.6_1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdelibs-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-libkonq-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdebase-bin-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kdesktop-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kicker-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kcontrol-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kfind-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-konqueror-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-twin-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-libkateinterfaces-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kwrite-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kate-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-ksmserver-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-konqueror-nsplugins-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdm-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdepasswd-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdebase-tdeio-smb-plugin-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-klipper-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kappfinder-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-ksplash-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kpersonalizer-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kpager-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdebase-tdeio-pim-plugins-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdebase-libtqt3-integration-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdeprint-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-ktip-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-khelpcenter-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-konsole-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-ksysguard-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kmenuedit-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-tdebase-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-ksnapshot-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package lib64dbus-tqt-1-0-2:0.63-14.1.6_1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kcpuload-2:2.00-14.1.6_1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED package trinity-kcalc-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED trinity-kicker >= 14.1.6 is needed by trinity-kmix-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 package trinity-kruler-14.1.6-1.mga10.x86_64 does not verify: Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 2ab131c6: NOTTRUSTED real 0m25.285s user 0m7.359s sys 0m0.787s # -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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[François] Mageia 10: error: Verifying a signature using certificate 71236F0FF403B2B663E744111DBAA9EB2AB131C6 (Trinity Desktop Environment (RPM Signing Key) <francois.andriot@free.fr>): 1. Certificate 1DBAA9EB2AB131C6 invalid: policy violation because: No binding signature at time 2026-04-28T07:36:32Z because: Policy rejected non-revocation signature (PositiveCertification) requiring second pre-image resistance because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 2023-02-01T00:00:00Z 2. Certificate 1DB
by Felix Miata 25 May '26

25 May '26

https://paste.centos.org/view/raw/72b10f3b will expire in 23 hours, is log of failure to update trinity packages for 9 to those for 10. Messages in &SUBJECT repeat endlessly into a 700k file on redirection of urpmi output, forced me to reboot on attempt to copy and paste from terminal into a file. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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[François] Mageia 10 TDM puts 2 out of 3 displays to sleep
by Felix Miata 10 May '26

10 May '26

Without GreeterScreen= in tdmrc set to the correct screen, the login window doesn't appear, only the un-asleep screen displays anything, which is nothing but blue if incorrectly set. Correctly set, login is possible, upon which the other two displays work as expected. # inxi -GSaz --za --hostname System: Host: ab560 Kernel: 6.18.28-desktop-1.mga10 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 15.2.0 clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz root=LABEL=<filter> noresume audit=0 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 consoleblank=0 preempt=full mitigations=off Desktop: TDE (Trinity) v: R14.1.6 tk: Qt v: 3.5.0 wm: Twin v: 3.0 with: kicker tools: avail: xlock vt: 7 dm: 1: TDM 2: XDM Distro: Mageia 10 Graphics: Device-1: Intel RocketLake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 730] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel alternate: xe arch: Xe process: Intel 10nm built: 2020-21 ports: active: DP-1,HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-2 empty: HDMI-A-3 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:4c8b class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.org v: 1.21.1.22 compositor: Twin v: 3.0 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: vesa alternate: fbdev dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3600x2640 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 762x558mm (30.00x21.97") s-diag: 944mm (37.18") Monitor-1: DP-1 pos: primary,bottom-l model: Acer K272HUL serial: <filter> built: 2018 res: mode: 2560x1440 hz: 60 scale: 100% (1) dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2 size: 598x336mm (23.54x13.23") diag: 686mm (27") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400 Monitor-2: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 pos: top-left model: NEC EA243WM serial: <filter> built: 2011 res: mode: 1920x1200 hz: 60 scale: 100% (1) dpi: 94 gamma: 1.2 size: 519x324mm (20.43x12.76") diag: 612mm (24.1") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1920x1200 min: 640x480 Monitor-3: HDMI-A-2 mapped: HDMI-2 pos: top-right model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter> built: 2013 res: mode: 1680x1050 hz: 60 scale: 100% (1) dpi: 90 gamma: 1.2 size: 473x296mm (18.62x11.65") diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400 API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel iris platforms: device: 0 drv: iris device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: iris surfaceless: drv: iris x11: drv: iris inactive: wayland API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 26.0.6 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (RKL GT1) device-ID: 8086:4c8b memory: 30.19 GiB unified: yes API: Vulkan v: 1.4.335 layers: 6 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel Graphics (RKL GT1) driver: mesa intel v: 26.0.6 device-ID: 8086:4c8b surfaces: N/A device: 1 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM 20.1.8 256 bits) driver: mesa llvmpipe v: 26.0.6 (LLVM 20.1.8) device-ID: 10005:0000 surfaces: N/A Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo gpu: gputop, intel_gpu_top, lsgpu x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr # The HDMI-connected display is the only one not put to sleep for active TDM. /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist, and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d contains nothing applicable to display configuration. I also have for positioning displays: # cat /etc/X11/xinit.d/po3set-kms60 xrandr --output DP-1 --primary --mode 2560x1440 --rate 60 --output HDMI-1 --above DP-1 --mode 1920x1200 --rate 60 --output HDMI-2 --right-of HDMI-1 --mode 1680x1050 --rate 60 # I only added rates to it today trying to determine what is going on. All was good using it as it was in March, but this failure started about a month ago when kernel 6.18.22 was freshly installed. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Heads up on vim-9.2.0388 -> 9.2.0437 changes to term.c causing issues for konsole
by David C Rankin 08 May '26

08 May '26

TDE Devs, All, There is an issue I've run into with Arch and the update of vim-9.2.0388 to vim-9.2.0437 that causes control codes "pp" to be shown in the vim window on the remote Arch host when accessed over ssh from my openSUSE KDE3/konsole (and from the Arch mailing list there are other terminals affected as well, such as one terminal on the RaspberryPi 5) The terminal control codes provided by my terminal (as returned by v:termresponse in vim) are ^[[>0;115;0c which is also the same provided by the RaspberryPi 5 terminal reported on the Arch list. There were no issue with vim up through vim-9.2.0388, but whatever the changes between that version and the new vim-9.2.0437 have caused the vim builtin xterm type to no longer play nicely with some older terminals. If TDE hasn't patched or updated the konsole code in tdebase, then I would expect TDE/konsole to be impacted as well, thus this heads up so it can be looked into. If somebody running TDE also has an Arch box around, they can test/confirm this by: 1 open konsole, 2 ssh into the Arch box, 3 vim foo If you see "pp" overlayed at the cursor position (first chars of a new file, or where the cursor is placed in an existing file), then TDE is impacted by this as well. 4 while still in vim, you can confirm the terminal response code by typing: 5 :echo v:termresponse (it will be shown bottom left over the command line) We have a issue open with upstream, https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/20140 and we are working through patch ideas, etc. So the purpose of this post was to provide a heads-up to TDE, and, of course, if you have a silver-bullet that solves this, I'll take that too :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[François] Fedora 44 released 28 April
by Felix Miata 04 May '26

04 May '26

But it's still absent from <http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/rpm/> and <http://archive.trinitydesktop.net/trinity/rpm/>. :( -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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