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Brainstorm - Why do all dialogs first appear with 1/2 groupbox labels chopped?
by David C. Rankin 01 Mar '14

01 Mar '14

All, I want to take up the issue of text missing in initial display of menus and dialogs again and see if there isn't an easy solution that can be found for R14. The initial description is detailed here: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::12245 Basically the first time a menu or dialog is displayed, there will either be text missing or the dialog group labels are cropped/clipped in half until focus is removed from the window and then restored. The most prevalent problems are seen with the 'GroupBox' container label which are almost always initially displayed 1/2 missing. (I believe GroupBox label is the technical term) An example of the text chopped in half is shown in this screenshot: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/kmail-config-clipped.jpg The screenshot shows an actual option chopped in 1/2 but that is the way most of the GroupBox labels first appear (it is just really difficult to get a screenshot because when focus changes to ksnapshot, the window is refreshed and the text redraws in full) I don't know what part of TDE is responsible for drawing or painting the .ui dialogs, but that seems like a good place to start. Has anyone done any research on this or know what part of TDE to start looking at? I presume this basic function must be a tdelibs function. I've opened 1983 to track this issue: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1983 If you find relevant information, please add it there. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Howto best Patch kmenu at Packaging Time?
by David C. Rankin 01 Mar '14

01 Mar '14

All, Given the minimization of applications in kmenu, what is the proper way to patch kmenu during packaging to move/add certain applications back to the menu? Currently there is no konqueror-filemanager in the menu except for the super-user apps and I will need to add that and a few others back to the menu in some manner. The Arch crowd is no mom & pop group and I can hear the howls: "Where is the file manager in the menu?" I think we should come up with some common approach for TDE that allows packagers to easily add/move apps around in the menu at package time. This would allow packagers to meet the needs of the users that TDE is being packaged for. If for mom & pop, package the basic menu, if for advanced users give them a full-featured menu. I do not want to give Arch the impression that TDE is a stripped-down version of kde. How best to do it? Is it best to do it at the XDG level supplying a short menu for merging, or is it better to just copy the .desktop files out of /opt/trinity/share/applnk/.hidden to /opt/trinity/share/applications/tde? That could be done with a few simple lines in a build script and sed can easily alter the categories of others. Developing a consistent way to easily customize the menu at packaging time seems like a simple way for packagers to better tailor TDE to their target users while providing a standard way to do it in TDE. I welcome your thoughts on that. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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What broke knemo? kded is looking for libkded_knemod.la (it's kded_knemod.la)
by David C. Rankin 01 Mar '14

01 Mar '14

All, Looking at .xsession_errors knemo no longer launches leaving the following error: kded: WARNING: [KDEDModule* Kded::loadModule(const KService*, bool)] Could not load library. [ can't open the module ] kded: WARNING: [KDEDModule* Kded::loadModule(const KService*, bool)] Could not load library. [ Library files for "libkded_knemod.la" not found in paths. ] I don't know what happened, but kded is now looking for "libkded_knemod.la". That is wrong. The library is "kded_knemod.la" in /opt/trinity/lib/trinity: 01:47 valhalla:~> l1 /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/ | grep knemo kcm_knemo.la kcm_knemo.so kded_knemod.la kded_knemod.so I know knemo was working within the last few weeks, I used it. I don't know when it quit exactly, but something changed. Any ideas? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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tdedebugdialog - enable/disable without checking/unchecking?
by David C. Rankin 01 Mar '14

01 Mar '14

All, Looking at tdeio, I selected everything in tdedebugdialog and got the wanted reams of output in .xsession-errors. Is there a way in ServiceManager, or otherwise, to simply turn tdedebugdialog output ON or OFF without having to select-all/deselect-all and then apply? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Adding new apps to the repository
by Darrell 01 Mar '14

01 Mar '14

While I appreciate enthusiasm to add new apps to the repository, we should convert all new apps to cmake right away. Otherwise we just keep digging ourselves a deeper hole with cmake conversions. Thoughts? Darrell

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New bugziila
by Darrell 01 Mar '14

01 Mar '14

The previous bugzilla version displayed a total count of a search query in the upper left corner of the page. That count total no longer appears with the new version. Can we get feature working again? Darrell

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Bug 1902 - pam.d and preprocessor checks surrounding consolekit may be part of issue
by David C. Rankin 27 Feb '14

27 Feb '14

Francios, All, I wanted to take this discussion out of bug 1902 temporarily to see if we cannot further the issue on list. According to the freedesktop links for accommodating clean-systemd (consolekit free) user session/process tracking, one of the tests to establish if session tracking is active is to check: $ loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID Id=1 Timestamp=jeu. 2014-02-20 21:01:46 CET TimestampMonotonic=14146902 VTNr=7 Display=:0 Remote=no Service=tdm-trinity Scope=session-1.scope Leader=984 Audit=1 Type=x11 Class=user Active=yes State=active IdleHint=no IdleSinceHint=0 IdleSinceHintMonotonic=0 Name=francois for the presence of 'Remote=no' and 'Active=yes'. Francios reports that he is using a consolekit free environment and has provided the output above which indicates that session tracking is active on his install -- BUT -- he is experiencing the exact same problems with tdeio_sftp /file/http/ connection being left open on his install. I have been making very slow progress understanding what is going on. I think in Francios case he has established proper 'user session tracking' showing that session tracking can with in TDE in this case without code changes. However, I think it is the 'user process tracking' part that is not working and causing the tdeio process to remain open. What we need to establish is what config Francios is using that allows proper user session tracking to be established. In my clean-systemd environment, I get: 22:19 valhalla:~> loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID NAutoVTs=6 KillExcludeUsers=root KillUserProcesses=no IdleHint=yes IdleSinceHint=0 IdleSinceHintMonotonic=0 InhibitDelayMaxUSec=5s HandlePowerKey=poweroff HandleSuspendKey=suspend HandleHibernateKey=hibernate HandleLidSwitch=suspend IdleAction=ignore IdleActionUSec=30min PreparingForShutdown=no PreparingForSleep=no From the documentation that shows I do not have it configured properly. I believe it may have to do with differences in the /etc/pam.d config. Francios, what are you using? I think the users 'process' tracking may have to do with code current wrapped within consolekit preprocessor checks that is not duplicated outside these checks but is necessary for process tracking in the absence of consolekit. This is also where I am focusing effort to learn what additions to the kdebase/tdm/backend code may be needed to comply with the freedesktop.org systemd environment. Francios, let me know your thoughts on this and Slavek let me know if you have any other suggestions as well. I am encouraged to see Francios has part of the correct config working. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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KXMLedit is MISSING from TDE - Slavek can you convert/add?
by David C. Rankin 27 Feb '14

27 Feb '14

Slavek, All, One of the traditional KDE applications that I just tried to find in TDE to look through the ~/.trinity/share/apps data was 'kxmledit'. It is a good/solid xml editor. The kde3 version is 1.14. You can get it here: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/kxmleditor/KXMLEditor/1.1.4/kxmled… It is a small package and actually one 'worth' adding. Let me know what you think. I would like to see TDE at a minimum have: text editor (done - kate,kwrite,kedit,quanta+) hex editor (done - khexedit) xml editor (need...) For those not familiar with it, here is a screenshot from suse/kde3: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/kxmleditor-needed.jpg -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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KMail management of mail lists
by Darrell 26 Feb '14

26 Feb '14

I am just not geek enough to figure this out: In the folder pane, when I "right-click" on the mail list folder name, and select "New Message to Mailing-List...," the new composer window populates the Identity and To text boxes but does not include my signature in the text window. Conversely, when I select the mail list in the folder pane and then select the New Message toolbar icon or the same from the File menu, the compose window includes my signature from my template but fails to populate the To text box. I want the text boxes populated for the mail list and the text window to already include my signature. How do I achieve that? Darrell

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dependencies/tqca still needed?
by Michele Calgaro 26 Feb '14

26 Feb '14

Is the module dependencies/tqca still needed? I use dependencies/tqca-tls, but not tqca. Also there has been no commit in tqca since Jul 2012. cheers Michele

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