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Re: [trinity-devel] Is anybody able to start the groupwise wizard in R14?
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>> I notice in your screen grab you do not have a button for Novell > >> Groupwise. 3.5.10 has that button: >> >> http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/misc/groupwise-3.5.10.png >> > >What got deleted? I haven't seen that in any of my new builds??? I traced the disappearance to commit cc29364f, 2010-09-01. Probably made sense some time ago when Novell owned Suse and Novell Groupware and SLOX were much one and the same. I don't know whether Novell Groupwise is valid anymore or whether that option should be restored. There also is code for Microsoft Exchange but the button is deliberately hidden. I filed an enhancement request. I don't use the app. I was just testing. >Are you sure you don't have some global patch that is getting >applied somewhere >in the bowels of you build scripts? Even then, I can't see how >that would cause >the linking to fail without it blowing up your build. That is the >strange part. The solution turned out to be adding /opt/trinity/lib/trinity to /etc/ld.so.conf. I always have had /opt/trinity/lib, but never /opt/trinity/lib/trinity and never needed that either. I don't know what changed the past weeks or months that requires that now. Darrell

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Pure systemd User Session Tracking - Any Thoughts?
by David C. Rankin 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Slavek, I doubt you have had time to work on user session tracking in the pure systemd case. However, this is an issue I must get fixed or TDE is unusable on Arch (unless we ask users to manually kill all process that don't close) Is there anything I can do to help? We have the kdebase-workspace patch from 4.11, have you made an attempt to apply it? If not, I suppose I could hand-edit/apply as much as I can, and then provide you with that if you think it will help. Let me know if that would help or if there is something else I can do to help move this along. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [trinity-devel] Is anybody able to start the groupwise wizard in R14?
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>> I cannot and I found the following reasons: >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/groupwarewizard >> libegroupwarewizard.so => not found >> libsloxwizard.so => not found >> libkolabwizard.so => not found >> libexchangewizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/egroupwarewizard >> libegroupwarewizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/exchangewizard >> libexchangewizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/kolabwizard >> libkolabwizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/scalixwizard >> libscalixwizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/groupwisewizard >> libgroupwisewizard.so => not found >> >> My build script includes: >> >> -DWITH_ALL_OPTIONS=ON >> -DBUILD_ALL=ON >> >> The *.so files exist, but none of the binaries are linked >correctly. >> >> Darrell >> > >Starts fine: > > http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tde-groupware- >wizard.jpg Notice anything unusual about the screen grab? The title bar? I'll fix the branding when I push the changes for the menu. I notice in your screen grab you do not have a button for Novell Groupwise. 3.5.10 has that button: http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/misc/groupwise-3.5.10.png Does the groupware software have any other Trinity dependencies? I get the same results with 3.5.13 and 3.5.12. Won't start and didn't link correctly. Starts fine on 3.5.10. I am missing something obvious that all of those package sets have the same problem? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Tellico source old - new source requires kde4/qt4 - author contacted
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>Added as: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1932 Now beg Francois and Slavek to help. :) Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Tellico source old - new source requires kde4/qt4 - author contacted
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>Got a response from the Author: > >1.3.6 was the last version for KDE3. You can grab the tarball >here: >http://tellico-project.org/download > >It's tagged in the git repo as v1.3.6, which is probably an upload >of the tarball. > >We should consider updating the TDE code to 1.3.6. File an enhancement request. Francois and Slavek have gotten good at pulling in KDE3 apps into Trinity. Darrell

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Tellico source old - new source requires kde4/qt4 - author contacted
by David C. Rankin 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

All, I have built tellico for the first time and it looks like a good collection manager (any collection, music, wine, whatever..) that we will want to keep. The problem is the source is quite old (1.3.2.1 - 2008). Tellico continues as an active ongoing project led by Robby Stephenson. http://tellico-project.org/ I've contacted him to determine what the latest version is that will build on kde3/qt3. Many new features have been added to tellico and I would like to see TDE take advantage of the updates. The current tellico code is hosted in a git repository: git clone git://anongit.kde.org/tellico I'll report back with the response. If we have the latest, then it may be worth while to take a look at what it would take to patch/port the current code to again build on TDE and perhaps create a new branch on the project git repo. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [trinity-devel] tdepim - no kmail icon in 'Internet' menu + config dialog way too small (clipping example captured!)
by Darrell Anderson 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

>Sounds good to me, too. Pushed to git in commits f2321faa for tdelibs and ed95608f for tdepim. The groupware title bar branding was fixed in ed95608f too. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] tdepim - no kmail icon in 'Internet' menu + config dialog way too small (clipping example captured!)
by Darrell Anderson 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

After fiddling and tweaking here is my proposal: Personal Information Management submenu Move to Internet menu: Mail Alert (Korn) Mail Client (KMail) Move to Office menu: Address Manager (KAddressBook) Encryption tool (KGpg) Note Taker (KJots) Personal Alarm Scheduler (KAlarm) Personal Information Manager (Kontact) Personal Organizer (KOrganizer) Personal Time Tracker (KArm) Signature Editor (KSig) TDE Groupware Wizard TNEF File Viewer (KTnef) Delete Personal Information Management submenu from the menu structure. With this arrangement, including the KDE(4) submenu, and an almost full Trinity install, on my 1280x800 laptop screen I can open the Trinity Internet and Office menus without unfolding into a second column. Hopefully there are very few users who install every single Trinity app. Therefore menu size and clutter should not be a problem for most users. Is this acceptable? Darrell

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Is anybody able to start the groupwise wizard in R14?
by Darrell Anderson 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

I cannot and I found the following reasons: ldd /opt/trinity/bin/groupwarewizard libegroupwarewizard.so => not found libsloxwizard.so => not found libkolabwizard.so => not found libexchangewizard.so => not found ldd /opt/trinity/bin/egroupwarewizard libegroupwarewizard.so => not found ldd /opt/trinity/bin/exchangewizard libexchangewizard.so => not found ldd /opt/trinity/bin/kolabwizard libkolabwizard.so => not found ldd /opt/trinity/bin/scalixwizard libscalixwizard.so => not found ldd /opt/trinity/bin/groupwisewizard libgroupwisewizard.so => not found My build script includes: -DWITH_ALL_OPTIONS=ON -DBUILD_ALL=ON The *.so files exist, but none of the binaries are linked correctly. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] tdepim - no kmail icon in 'Internet' menu + config dialog way too small (clipping example captured!)
by Darrell Anderson 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

> kmenu/office/personal information management/ > > The menu was almost impossible to spot due to it being non- >standard all lower >case. It looks like this was just a temporary placeholder that got >forgotten >about. Is this an intended change? If so, I suggest a patch to put >an 'e-mail' >entry back under 'internet' where people usually look for >'internet' apps and I have no idea how you get all lower case. On my system the menu is proper mixed case: Personal Information Management >perhaps shortening the sub-menu folder name from > > personal information management > >to simply > > PIM > >or > > Trinity - PIM Acronyms in a menu? How does 'PIM' translate in Swahili? Not going to happen. > Burring kmail, kaddressbook, kontact, kalarm, and kgqg under >kmenu/office/personal information management/ just seems like a >recipe for complaint: You are the first and only person to complain since we made the changes many, many months ago. >http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tdepim-submenu.jpg According to that image, I don't see any all lower case instances of anything. All proper mixed case. > If we are dead-set on having a "personal information management" >menu, then at >least make it consistent in standard "title" case and move it to a >top-level >menu as: > >Personal Information Management That is how the menu already appears on my system and in your screenshot. Something is wrong at your end. > And at least add kmail and kontact entries back to the Internet >menu. Further >regarding the 'Internet' menu -- all submenus have disappeared. >Looking.. All >submenus in tmenu or kmenu are gone except for one 'Super User' >submenu under >System and the normal 'Games', 'Development' and 'Edutainment' >submenus. I like >the menu cleanup, but we need to put internet apps back under >'Internet'. That all said, I am uncomfortable with the Personal Information Management sub menu. Our original goal was to reduce clutter. Try using the original menu in 3.5.13.x with KDE4 concurrently installed. Impossible to navigate with all the duplication and the menu size exceeds the desktop height. Even now, on a 1200x800 laptop screen, with a full Trinity installation, the menu is long and nearly pushes the edge of the top of the screen. Without the KDE submenus, the problem would be exactly the same. Pulling the apps from the Personal Information Management submenu into parent menus will make the menus longer. Try using Xfce with Trinity and KDE4 installed. There are no submenus. Horrible. Office seems more natural to me than Internet to find KMail. Lots of people use mail clients in local office networks. I suspect most office users do not consider mail an internet app but an office app. Likewise for other PIM apps. The internet is only an extension of those office related apps. I'll tinker to see what we can do. Darrell

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