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Re: [trinity-devel] Build failures with latest GIT
by Darrell Anderson 03 Mar '13

03 Mar '13

>How do I do that? I did a full repository update. I also did a git >pull in each of the affected sources. I copied the files from a working module and that seemed to work. I don't know why those modules did not update correctly. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Build failures with latest GIT
by Darrell Anderson 03 Mar '13

03 Mar '13

>Make sure that you have updated the admin/ submodule in each >package. >There were changes made some time ago that would present these >symptoms if >an out of date admin/ module were used to build against the latest >TDE >lbraries from GIT. How do I do that? I did a full repository update. I also did a git pull in each of the affected sources. Darrell

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Build failures with latest GIT
by Darrell Anderson 03 Mar '13

03 Mar '13

I have several packages that will not build, such as k9copy, koffice, kcmautostart. All fail with the same error: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no TDE libraries installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix! How to fix? Darrell

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Proposed changes commit_all_submodules
by Slávek Banko 28 Feb '13

28 Feb '13

Hello everyone, During the current work on repairing unintended renames I often use to bulk commit commit_all_submodules script. That's why I worked on some of the improvements. The first change is that I moved "git pull" after check whether in the module are any changes to push to the server. The advantages are two: 1) If the module does not contain changes, it is omitted both - pull and push. Step to pushing changes to the server can be significantly faster. 2) In general commit to 'tde' are not included unrelated changes in the modules in which was pushed commits from some other developers. The second change is that I added to "git pull" option --rebase. The advantage is that if changes were made on both sides - on the server and also in the local git clone, then instead of merge temporary local branch are local changes "rebased" to current HEAD on the server in order to maintain linear history without unnecessary merges. As you can see on my commits to master 'tde' repository. What is your opinion on the use of "--rebase"? Note: Attached is both - both script and diff. Slavek --

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Re: [trinity-devel] TDE Project Status
by Darrell Anderson 26 Feb '13

26 Feb '13

>This is just a quick heads-up notice to the TDE development team >that the >major library and header renaming effort has reached its logical >conclusion, and that no additional major API/ABI changing renaming >efforts >are likely for R14.0.0. While a number of binary files are still >using >their old KDE names, this should not interfere with the usage of >KDE 4+ >libraries within TDE if such usage is desired. > >All packages build properly as of this point, and as an added >bonus Raring >support is now available in the nightly builds PPA. > >The patchset generator is also back online as of this writing. > >If you have any questions, as always please feel free to ask! * Will the bug tracker next receive attention? * What is the target release date for R14? Darrell

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TDE Project Status
by Timothy Pearson 26 Feb '13

26 Feb '13

This is just a quick heads-up notice to the TDE development team that the major library and header renaming effort has reached its logical conclusion, and that no additional major API/ABI changing renaming efforts are likely for R14.0.0. While a number of binary files are still using their old KDE names, this should not interfere with the usage of KDE 4+ libraries within TDE if such usage is desired. All packages build properly as of this point, and as an added bonus Raring support is now available in the nightly builds PPA. The patchset generator is also back online as of this writing. If you have any questions, as always please feel free to ask! Tim

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Re: [trinity-users] K menu organisation in Trinity
by Calvin Morrison 25 Feb '13

25 Feb '13

If you want to use KDE 3.5.10 I recommend you install a outdated and insecure distro. Trinity has changed, but also improved KDE3. If you want kde 3.5.10 then don't bother with Trinity. Trinity is a thing unto itself, but lives in the spirit of KDE3. On 25 February 2013 10:10, C W <elcaseti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > To clarify, I'm not suggesting that Alexandre (or anyone else) be > encouraged to stop making his spin available to others. I am suggesting > that someone else may want to make another spin of PCLOS TDE in addition to > Alexandre's version. > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:00 AM, C W <elcaseti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Maybe the best solution to this issue is for one or more of the TDE >> purists (who want TDE to be exactly like KDE 3.5.10, as far as I can tell), >> to make a version of PCLOS with TDE & nothing borrowed from KDE4. The only >> downside to that I can think of would be possible fragmentation like Lisi >> mentioned. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Elcaset >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano <steve(a)pearwood.info>wrote: >> >>> On 25/02/13 12:32, Alexandre Couture wrote: >>> >>> Well that's getting a real joke! Once again! >>>> I am not a software developer. I don't know how to make a computer >>>> program. >>>> And you tell me that I have added an option to TDE? Certainly not. >>>> >>> >>> >>> You have changed the default settings. That is what I mean by adding an >>> option. >>> My apologies for the confusion. >>> >>> Alexandre, I am sorry that I have upset you. I think it is very >>> important for >>> us all to be grateful for your efforts at packaging Trinity. Thank you >>> again. >>> >>> But gratitude is not "all, or nothing". I believe that we should be >>> thankful >>> for your work in packaging Trinity, but *not* thankful that your package >>> makes Trinity more like KDE 4, and less consistent with Trinity on other >>> Linux distros. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Steven >>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> --------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@** >>> lists.pearsoncomputing.net<trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.** >>> pearsoncomputing.net <trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net> >>> Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.** >>> pearsoncomputing.net/ <http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/> >>> Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.** >>> pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_**lists/#top-posting<http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy >> http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ >> https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en >> >> K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom & User Friendliness >> http://kde.org/ >> >> Free Lossless Audio Codec >> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac >> >> Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at >> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm >> > > > > -- > Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy > http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ > https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en > > K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom & User Friendliness > http://kde.org/ > > Free Lossless Audio Codec > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac > > Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at > http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm >

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What is the status of the Trinity project?
by Darrell Anderson 25 Feb '13

25 Feb '13

What is the status of the Trinity project? The commit web page has not been updated since Feb. 10. There are no announcements or communication in the dev mail list. What is the R14 release date? Darrell

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Adverse renaming
by Slávek Banko 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Tim, looking at the recent changes in the tde-packaging I see several varieties of adverse renaming. For example: -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chalkselectiontools.la -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chalkselectiontools.so -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chalkselectopaque.la -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chalkselectopaque.so +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chaltdeselectiontools.la +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chaltdeselectiontools.so +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chaltdeselectopaque.la +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/chaltdeselectopaque.so ...and many other chalk* => chaltde* -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/share/apps/kplato/reports/.source/tasklist.ktf -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/share/apps/kplato/reports/tasklist.desktop +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/share/apps/kplato/reports/.source/tastdelist.ktf +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/share/apps/kplato/reports/tastdelist.desktop -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/tdeparts/dockmainwindow.h +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/tdeparts/doctdemainwindow.h -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/tdetexteditor/blockselectioninterface.h +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/tdetexteditor/bloctdeselectioninterface.h -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/kopete/ui/addressbookselectordialog.h -debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/kopete/ui/addressbookselectorwidget.h +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/kopete/ui/addressbootdeselectordialog.h +debian/tmp/opt/trinity/include/kopete/ui/addressbootdeselectorwidget.h In addition, some partial repairs but also other adverse renaming: ---- kiosktool/tdeiosktool/tdeioskrun.cpp 2005-04-25 10:46:33.000000000 +0100 -+++ kiosktool/tdeiosktool/tdeioskrun.cpp 2007-07-20 16:56:07.000000000 +0100 +--- kiosktool/kiosktool/tdeioskrun.cpp 2005-04-25 10:46:33.000000000 +0100 ++++ kiosktool/kiosktool/tdeioskrun.cpp 2007-07-20 16:56:07.000000000 +0100 -+ return "Error in Kiosktool Kubuntu modifications"; ++ return "Error in Kiostdetool Kubuntu modifications"; These are just some examples, which I happened to notice. I'm afraid that it will take a lot of eyes, to reveal all the adverse renaming. I think it is right to make this great renaming before release final R14, but I believe that the recently proposed date for release final R14 need to be revisited. Slavek --

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Re: [trinity-devel] Commits and ABI/API breakage
by Darrell Anderson 05 Feb '13

05 Feb '13

>You can probably start your builds again, though a few of the >larger/more >obscure packages such as tdebindings will likely fail to build at >this time. And just as importantly, the commits web page is again updating so I know what happened and where to debug should problems arise. :) Darrell

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