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Installing KDE3 and Trinity concurrently
by Darrell Anderson 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Is anybody installing KDE3 and Trinity concurrently? Specifically, both desktops are installed to the same partition set and as appropriate for the respective distro, users can select between either desktop environment? This requires installing both desktops in different locations, such as /usr and /opt/trinity, or /opt/kde3 and /opt/trinity. I run both desktops and use KDE3 often to compare/debug Trinity issues. I do this with a separate installations and virtual machines. I would enjoy being able to install both desktops to the same partition set, but I run into serious menu problems that I haven't resolved. Being able to run one user in Trinity and another user in KDE3 for testing would be much better than using a VM (VMs have some limitations). Thanks much. Darrell

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"What's This" fails in KControl?
by Darrell Anderson 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Latest GIT. Would somebody confirm whether the "What's This" tooltips work in KControl? Simply "right-click" on a check box text string. A popup should appear with the text string "What's This?" and when selected, a tooltip help string appears. The "What's This" tooltips work correctly when I start a KControl module from the minicli or from the TDE Settings menu. They don't work when I try to use them in the full KControl. Thanks. Darrell

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Bug 979 - NOT fixed - kwrite/kate still locks up tight when built on gcc 4.7 (todays sources and gcc 4.7.0-6)
by David C. Rankin 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Tim, The kwrite crash detailed in bug 979 is NOT fixed. I rebuilt everything today with updates on both Arch and TDE current through today. The behavior is exactly the same as before. I don't know what Fedora did to get around the crash, but it is still there. It may be gcc, but I'd bet it is non-standard compliant code in TDE that was exposed by the stricter interpretation by gcc 4.7. I'll reopen 979, but I'm at a loss at what else to do. Backtrace from tonight: Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_files.so.2 0x00007f3934e3fe7a in TQChar::unicode (this=0x218ac2e) at ../include/ntqstring.h:198 198 ../include/ntqstring.h: No such file or directory. (gdb) backtrace #0 0x00007f3934e3fe7a in TQChar::unicode (this=0x218ac2e) at ../include/ntqstring.h:198 #1 0x00007f3934e3fa7f in TQFontMetrics::charWidth (this=0x2071930, str=..., pos=47) at kernel/qfont_x11.cpp:704 #2 0x00007f392e3724da in width (tabWidth=<optimized out>, italic=<optimized out>, bold=<optimized out>, col=47, text=..., this=0x2071910) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/katefont.h:76 #3 width (tabWidth=<optimized out>, col=47, text=..., fs=..., this=<optimized out>) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/kateattribute.h:55 #4 KateRenderer::textWidth (this=0x2144930, textLine=..., startcol=0, maxwidth=753, needWrap=0x7fff40b10b78, endX=0x7fff40b10b6c) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/katerenderer.cpp:797 #5 0x00007f392e353994 in KateViewInternal::range (this=this@entry=0x2195c00, realLine=realLine@entry=0, previous=previous@entry=0x0) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/kateviewinternal.cpp:1331 #6 0x00007f392e354e52 in KateViewInternal::range (this=this@entry=0x2195c00, realLine=0, viewLine=viewLine@entry=1) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/kateviewinternal.cpp:1418 #7 0x00007f392e3567e9 in KateViewInternal::viewLineOffset (this=this@entry=0x2195c00, virtualCursor=..., offset=0, keepX=keepX@entry=false) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/kateviewinternal.cpp:1578 #8 0x00007f392e35a045 in KateViewInternal::makeVisible (this=this@entry=0x2195c00, c=..., endCol=118, force=force@entry=false, center=center@entry=false, calledExternally=calledExternally@entry=false) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/kateviewinternal.cpp:781 #9 0x00007f392e35a672 in KateViewInternal::updateCursor (this=this@entry=0x2195c00, newCursor=..., force=force@entry=true, center=center@entry=false, calledExternally=calledExternally@entry=false) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/kateviewinternal.cpp:2204 #10 0x00007f392e35e7e0 in KateViewInternal::editEnd (this=0x2195c00, editTagLineStart=0, editTagLineEnd=<optimized out>, tagFrom=<optimized out>) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/kateviewinternal.cpp:3385 #11 0x00007f392e2fb208 in KateDocument::editEnd (this=0x20906f0) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/katedocument.cpp:1032 #12 0x00007f392e2f523b in KateDocument::paste (this=0x20906f0, view=0x2068bc0) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/katedocument.cpp:3249 #13 0x00007f392e32cd73 in KateView::paste (this=0x2068bc0) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/kateview.cpp:1597 #14 0x00007f392e35c422 in KateViewInternal::mouseReleaseEvent (this=0x2195c00, e=0x7fff40b11480) at /build/src/tdelibs/kate/part/kateviewinternal.cpp:2965 #15 0x00007f3934f2e343 in TQWidget::event (this=0x2195c00, e=0x7fff40b11480) at kernel/qwidget.cpp:4725 #16 0x00007f3934e98559 in TQApplication::internalNotify (this=0x7fff40b11ce0, receiver=0x2195c00, e=0x7fff40b11480) at kernel/qapplication.cpp:2638 #17 0x00007f3934e97be3 in TQApplication::notify (this=0x7fff40b11ce0, receiver=0x2195c00, e=0x7fff40b11480) at kernel/qapplication.cpp:2424 #18 0x00007f3935e618d4 in KApplication::notify (this=0x7fff40b11ce0, receiver=0x2195c00, event=0x7fff40b11480) at /build/src/tdelibs/tdecore/kapplication.cpp:583 #19 0x00007f3934e2a6b3 in TQApplication::sendSpontaneousEvent (receiver=0x2195c00, event=0x7fff40b11480) at kernel/ntqapplication.h:526 #20 0x00007f3934e23f53 in TQETWidget::translateMouseEvent (this=0x2195c00, event=0x7fff40b11990) at kernel/qapplication_x11.cpp:4381 #21 0x00007f3934e21871 in TQApplication::x11ProcessEvent (this=0x7fff40b11ce0, event=0x7fff40b11990) at kernel/qapplication_x11.cpp:3558 #22 0x00007f3934e3cc44 in TQEventLoop::processEvents (this=0x1fd3f80, flags=4) at kernel/qeventloop_x11.cpp:195 #23 0x00007f3934eab818 in TQEventLoop::enterLoop (this=0x1fd3f80) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:201 #24 0x00007f3934eab6e9 in TQEventLoop::exec (this=0x1fd3f80) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:148 #25 0x00007f3934e98689 in TQApplication::exec (this=0x7fff40b11ce0) at kernel/qapplication.cpp:2761 #26 0x00007f39391d43a8 in kdemain (argc=1, argv=0x7fff40b122b8) at /build/src/tdebase/kate/app/kwritemain.cpp:692 #27 0x000000000040082c in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fff40b122b8) at /build/src/build/kate/app/kwrite_tdeinit_executable.cpp:2 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Keyboard handling, compose key broken in Trinity nightlies
by Julius Schwartzenberg 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Hi Tim and others, Is there significant development going on regarding keyboard handling or maybe character handling? I'm a bit surprised, because I didn't know this depended on the toolkit, but with the current nightlies, I'm unable to use my compose key to compose characters in any Trinity application. In Qt4 and GTK applications (within Trinity), the compose key works correctly. In the past, this worked without issues in Trinity as well. I can imagine this is not noticed by everybody quickly, I myself need to use compose a lot to type in foreign languages. Let me know if I can help with reproducing/solving this. Best regards, Julius

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Speaking of component version numbers
by Marvin L Jones 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - Trinity 3.5.13 I have seen several konqueror updates recently (via Slavek's PPA.) But, konqueror's Help > About konqueror reports: "Konqueror 3.5.10 (using Trinity 3.5.13.1)" Is it truly still konqueror 3.5.10 from back in the 2009-2010 days? Has it just been bug fixes until now? Or, has the Help > About konqueror text never been updated. Thanks, Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __ 38.238N 104.547W | config.com | DM78rf | SK

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Anyone building tde on box with systemd init?
by David C. Rankin 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

All, Arch is switching to systemd init. I don't know if this will have any impact on TDE, but older versions have dependency conflicts due to the packages that have been removed (heimdal from krb5, etc...) Not all systemd related, but I wonder what other init or sysv dependent packages will need to be fixed for systemd -- hopefully none at all, but I don't know enough to knnow. So what do the TDE gurus say? Is there anyone building/running on a systemd box currently? If not, what problems has anyone heard of caused by systemd (more importantly -- and known tde specific impacts related to systemd. Issue/No Issue? Gurus? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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udisks2 support for mediamanager
by Serghei Amelian 30 May '12

30 May '12

Hello, After a lot of headache because Qt3 dbus binding bugs, udisks2 support is finally available. The patch is here: https://github.com/serghei/kde3-kdebase/commit/27cc062c6b172fd6e93addb51026… -- Serghei

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Nightlies on Ubuntu Precise, some bugs
by Julius Schwartzenberg 30 May '12

30 May '12

Hi, I just upgraded to the nightlies on Ubuntu Precise. Some issues I noticed: The python-sip package has incorrect 'provides'. Instead of: Provides: python2.7-sip, sip-api-7.0, sip-api-7.1 It should be: Provides: python2.7-sip, sip-api-8.0, sip-api-8.1 The shortcut to open the process list, ctrl+esc does not work. It is set up correctly according to the keybindings configuration. When looking at the process table in ksysguard, the table just keeps flashing. It's impossible to actually use ksysguard to kill a program. Should I report these bugs (or other problems like this)? I tried everything both with my normal user and with a new test user (clean homedir). Best regards, Julius

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Mysterious hard-coding
by Darrell Anderson 29 May '12

29 May '12

Resolving bug report 892 includes important patches to reduce potential conflict with KDE4 and to make our own *.desktop files XDG compliant (recently Trinity/TDE was added to the list of registered environments: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apb.html). Resolving this bug report is important to release R14. The gritty work of creating patches to update all *.desktop files for each module is complete. Yet there is hard-coding somewhere deep in the tdelibs/tdebase sources that affixes the location of $PREFIX/share/applications/kde. I want to change that location to $PREFIX/share/applications/tde. During testing, to change the location to $PREFIX/share/applications/tde, I modify the sources on-the-fly of every module by running the following snippet in my master build script: echo "Fixing applications path in $APP_SOURCES_DIR." if [ -d $APP_SOURCES_DIR/cmake ];then find $APP_SOURCES_DIR/cmake -name TDESetupPaths.cmake -exec sed -i 's|\${SHARE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/applications/kde|\${SHARE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/applications/tde|g' {} \; fi if [ -d $APP_SOURCES_DIR/admin ]; then find $APP_SOURCES_DIR/admin -type f -exec sed -i 's|{datadir}/applications/kde|{datadir}/applications/tde|g' {} \; fi find $APP_SOURCES_DIR -type f -exec sed -i 's|share/applications/kde/|share/applications/tde/|g' {} \; echo After I resolve the mysterious hard-coding I'll patch each module with this on-the-fly snippet. tdelibs/tdecore/kstandarddirs.cpp has this snippet: if (!strcmp(type, "xdgdata-apps")) return "applications/"; Notice there is no "kde" affixed to the path. Therefore the "kde" subdirectory is being added somewhere else. The on-the-fly changes work great and all desktop files get installed to $PREFIX/share/applications/tde. Nonetheless, there is breakage. The hard-coding is real because various components stop working in Trinity. For example, opening the Konqueror Settings dialog reveals that most of the configuration options in the icon list are missing. I can temporarily create a sym link from $PREFIX/share/applications/tde to $PREFIX/share/applications/kde and then everything works again --- evidence of hard-coding. I've looked and looked and I can't find anything. I would be grateful anybody would help me find this mysterious hard-coding. Darrell

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Massive branding updates
by Darrell Anderson 28 May '12

28 May '12

I spent much of the day updating various text strings of branding issues, such as KDE -> TDE, K Desktop -> Trinity Desktop. These strings included What's This, Quick Help, KMessageBox, printf, i18n strings, etc. There was no easy search-and-replace method because many strings had to be read in context before deciding to change anything. Grunt work --- but I think most of this is now behind us. I still have the lsm files to update. Please let me know after rebuilding with the latest GIT sources when you notice remnant strings needing attention and let me know whether I got cross-eyed and changed something I should not have. Darrell

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