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pyQt3 - sip deprecation?
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Arch folks, PyQt3 will build with the git sources for tde, but I get LOTS (1000s) of deprecation warnings. Eg: sip: Deprecation warning: sip/qt/copying.sip:50: %OptionalInclude is deprecated, use %Include and the 'optional' argument instead sip: Deprecation warning: sip/qt/copying.sip:51: %OptionalInclude is deprecated, use %Include and the 'optional' argument instead sip: Deprecation warning: sip/qt/qnamespace.sip:23: %ExportedDoc is deprecated, use %Extract instead sip: Deprecation warning: sip/qt/qwindowdefs.sip:23: %ExportedDoc is deprecated, use %Extract instead sip: Deprecation warning: sip/qt/qwindowdefs.sip:37: %OptionalInclude is deprecated, use %Include and the 'optional' argument instead I'm not that familiar with PyQt3 or sip, so I don't know whether it is needed or not, but to make sure nothing was lost, I was building it. Do we really need this package, if so, does it need to be updated to get rid of the deprecations warnings? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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BIG Issue - Have all 'kd' to 'td' name changes taken place that WILL take place?
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Tim, All, What is the status of renaming from 'k_whatever' to 't_whatever'? Are we at a point where all that will be done is done? Obviously, this effects building and packaging. For instance tdebase still contains all the 'k' applications: kappfinder kate kcheckpass kcminit kcontrol kdcop kdebugdialog kdeeject kdepasswd kdesktop kdialog kfind khelpcenter khotkeys kicker kioslave klipper kmenuedit knetattach konqueror konsole kpager kpersonalizer kreadconfig krootbacking kscreensaver ksmserver ksplashml kstart ksysguard ksystraycmd While some have move to 't' apps: tdeinit tdeprint tdesu tdm tdmlib Do we expect to see in the future: tappfinder tate tcheckpass tcminit ... tonqueror (Sounds like the biggest baddest Tonka truck) tonsole (Sounds like something you have removed as a kid) ... Or can we be pretty certain the remaining 'k' names won't change? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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tdebase - which patches still required for git?
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Guys, gals, Looking at tdebase build package for arch based on the original 3.5.13 tarball, I show the following patches: patches/01-kicker-lockout-applet-button-order.patch patches/dbusfix.patch patches/07-bigger_title_icons_in_kcontrol.patch patches/06-nspluginscan-xdgcompliance.patch patches/08-kip_kdesktop_rounded_icon_text_corners.patch patches/03-kcontrol_advbg_step.patch patches/02-doc_location.patch and xsession.patch Does anyone know which are still required for the tdebase build from the git tree? I looked at http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tdebase, but I can't figure out which patch may have been applied. Better tool for that? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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arch pkgbuild cleanup - $pkgname, $depends, $provides - first thoughts...
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Archers, In the effort to clean up the daisy-chain of $pkgname, $depends, and $provides as I go through the build scripts for the git tree, here is my first thoughts on a name cleanup. I'm not tied to any of the names and the goal is simply to make the dependency tree as clean as possible without K_this and T_that intermixed. The $depends simply lists the git tree depends and does not list the other required depends for building (those are what they are), but I want to remove depends that don't belong or are unnecessary (referencing a previous trinity package implicitly includes all the prior depends - so duplication is unnecessary) Look it over. I've only done it for the packages I have built so far (avahi-tqt still won't build). Obviously some people won't build the 'davs' or avahi-tqt, so I've set the $depends accordingly. # GITsource $pkgname $provides $depends qt3 tde-qt3 'qt3' tqtinterface tde-tqtinterface 'tqtinterface' 'qt3' arts tde-arts 'arts' 'tqtinterface' dbus-tqt tde-dbus-tqt 'dbus-tqt' 'arts' dbus-1-tqt tde-dbus-1-tqt 'dbus-1-tqt' 'dbus-tqt' libcaldav tde-libcaldav 'libcaldav' 'dbus-1-tqt' libcarddav tde-libcarddav 'libcarddav' 'dbus-1-tqt' libart-lpgl tde-libart-lpgl 'libart-lpgl' 'dbus-1-tqt' avahi-tqt tde-avahi-tqt 'avahi-tqt' 'dbus-1-tqt' tdelibs tde-tdelibs 'tdelibs' 'libart-lpgl' tdebase tde-tdebase 'tdebase' 'tdelibs' The $pkgname is just a stab. I actually will probably want something like: $pkgname tde-dep-qt3 tde-dep-tqtinterface tde-dep-arts tde-dep-dbus-tqt tde-dep-dbus-1-tqt tde-dep-libcaldav tde-dep-libcarddav tde-dep-libart-lpgl tde-dep-avahi-tqt tde-tdelibs tde-tdebase ... tde-app-kpilot ... That way dependencies, applications, etc... all sort together and the tde-xyz is shorter than including 'dependencies' or 'applications' in the file name. Just my thoughts... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Arch - change standard install loc from /opt/trinity to /opt/tde?
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Archers, All, Currently, Arch installs trinity to /opt/trinity. Personally, I would like to move the default install to /opt/tde. Two reasons: (1) most important -- less typing; (2) the tradition of the install being in /opt/kde, why not standardize around /opt/tde? For the rest of the community -- Where are you putting tde? It would just make sense to set a community-wide standard. Yes, I know that the location is irrelevant and can be obtained by the standard environment files, but we recently had a rebuild of 3.5.12 that moved from /opt/kde to /opt/kde3. That's fine, but depending upon the repo you hit to pull files from, your system would break due to install location differences in the various packages. I don't have any hard feelings either way for any single location, but if it is all the same, then if possible, I would like to see a standard that all packagers could reference. Of course you don't have to use it, but if there is a standard install, the balance of builds will migrate to it over time. What says the team? /opt/trinity /opt/tde /opt/tde_ver (ver being a 2 or 3-digit version: eg. 13 or 313) /opt/other_suggestions? Personally for me, /opt/tde works :) (/opt/trinity is probably my fault on arch anyway :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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tdelibs - why no -DWITH_PAM=ON in PKGBUILD - on by default now?
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Calvin, Pawel, Baho, Comparing my old tdelibs build with the current, I have -DWITH_PAM=ON. That isn't set in the current build scripts. Is it already set by default or was there another reason for not keeping that option? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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tdelibs - arch, why are we installing it to provide 'kdelibs3'?
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Archers, In the current tdelibs pkgbuild, I have run into a few questions (previously posted). The current questions is why are we installing to provide 'kdelibs3'? Eg: provides=('kdelibs3') I have updated it to also register providing 'tdelibs' so that it can be transitioned: provides=('kdelibs3' 'tdelibs') Other changes: pkgname=trinity-tdelibs and cmake ${srcdir}/tdelibs for the build. Does this just need to be reworked here, or are all of the build scripts going to have to be revised to incorporate the name changes? The name change is the simple part, but do we know if any of the patches or supporting files also have the 'kde...' stuff hardcoded? I'm fixing them as I come across them. If there is any reason not to, please let me know. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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arch - tdelibs dependency 'libutempter' - what is it? Why the AUR package?
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Calvin, Baho, Pawel, Why do we need 'libutempter'? I've never heard of it before. I don't mind having an AUR package, but if we ever hope to have TDE picked up by Arch, it needs to build on Arch. Do we really need libutempter? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Why does TDE use an older GPG?
by Kristopher John Gamrat 22 Feb '12

22 Feb '12

Hi, I noticed that TDE on Debian depends on GPG 1.4.10, but 2.0.14 is in their repos. This has my a little confused, since my key works perfectly in both versions, as does my friend's (his key was created in TDE's KGPG and was successfully imported into the latest Gpg4Win, which uses GPG 2.0.17). Also, I used both versions of GPG from the command line a couple of times, and the commands seem to be the same. Is there any particular reason TDE uses an older version? -- Kris Gamrat Ark Linux webmaster http://www.arklinux.org/

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Slackware links on the web page
by Keith Daniels 22 Feb '12

22 Feb '12

The wget links for Slackware given on this page: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#slackware Do not work any more... For Slackware 13.1 (v3.5.13) wget -c -nd -r -l1 --no-parent -A.txz -A.txt http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/slackware/13.1/ Keith

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