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01 February 2012 Meeting Notes
by Robert Xu 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

All there: https://gist.github.com/1718892 Feel free to speak up should you have an opinion - the door is always open! -- later daze. :: Robert Xu :: rxu.lincomlinux.org :: protocol.by/rxu

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Need artwork help
by Darrell Anderson 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

Would one of you artists lend a hand in updating a PNG image file: tdelibs/doc/common/kde_logo.png We need to retain the same attributes (size, depth, etc.) but update the image to reflect Trinity. This image is used primarily in the web version of the help files, but is used in a few other places. When finished, please submit the updated image to bug report 694. Thanks! Darrell

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[Cross-Post][Reminder] 01 February Meeting
by Robert Xu 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

Just a reminder that the meeting is 01 February at 12 PM Eastern Standard Time. You may join us on IRC in the #trinity-desktop-meeting channel. If you do not have an IRC client, you may use this link: http://bit.ly/zVixaW to join us and participate. See you then! -- later daze. :: Robert Xu :: rxu.lincomlinux.org :: protocol.by/rxu

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K-Menu or T-Menu
by Darrell Anderson 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

As I revise and update the Trinity documentation, I will confront questions I can't answer, or should not answer on my own without team opinions. The documentation often refers to the K-Menu. The Trinity artwork contains a "T" button icon rather than a K. Should we refer to this button as the T-Menu? I lean toward updating all documentation to reference the T-Menu despite some of the underlying app and library names. For example, kmenueditor. Many TDE apps still use the "k" prefix and so this would not be any different. Yet I think T-Menu is more consistent with "Trinity Desktop Environment." Objections? Darrell

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TDE User Guide Options
by Darrell Anderson 30 Jan '12

30 Jan '12

Many of us who have used KDE3/TDE for many years probably have forgotten that in the T-Menu is an option named Help. The kdehelpcenter starts when selecting that menu option. The second link in the help center table of contents is to the KDE3 User's Guide, which I am updating to become the Trinity User's Guide. I propose we include a new T-Menu option just above or below the Help option with a direct link to the TDE User's Guide. To computer savvy users this new menu option might seem redundant, but the new menu option would prove useful to new users. Rather than "hard-coding" the new menu option like the Help menu, this new menu option could be an optional menu in the Panel configuration. The default Trinity desktop would have that menu option enabled. Are there any objections to this proposal? A second proposal is the default Trinity desktop includes an icon that is a direct link to the User's Guide. This could be a special "device icon" much like "My Documents," "Printers," or "Trash" that allows users to control the appearance, but the default Trinity desktop would display that icon, just like the other special device icons. Are there any objections to this proposal? Darrell

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cmake tdenetwork not finding wireless tools
by Jay 30 Jan '12

30 Jan '12

I have wireless-tools-29-i486-6 insttalled. iwlib.h exists in /usr/include. When compiling tdenetwork from git it stops fails during config telling me it couldn't find wireless tools 29>+. Disabling the building of wifi (only used for kwifimanager?) allows me to compile. After looking through configure.in.in for wifi it appears to be searching for a certain version of iwlib.h, but misses the mark. Any ideas why it may be blind to wireless tools? Jay

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Is this a bug, or is my C++ just rusty?
by E. Liddell 30 Jan '12

30 Jan '12

From what I recall of the syntax, this fragment from kpanelapplet.cpp in kdelibs-3.5.13 *looks* like it's making direct calls into QT3's namespace (not tqtinterface's), even though it doesn't #include any QT files, just TQT stuff: Qt::Orientation KPanelApplet::orientation() const { if( _position == pTop || _position == pBottom ) { return Qt::Horizontal; } else { return Qt::Vertical; } } My understanding is, the QT namespace is included in this code via TQT, allowing the code to compile. If so, this might explain the lengthy linking bug I posted a little while ago (--as-needed does not like transitive dependencies like this). Can someone confirm that this is in fact what is happening? I haven't written a line of C++ code in ~15 years, so I'm not sure I remember how it works. If I'm right, I'll go ahead and file the bug, but I don't want to clutter Bugzilla with non-issues.

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PAM in kdebase 3.5.13
by L0ner sh4dou 29 Jan '12

29 Jan '12

First little introduction: As some of you know I'm in the process of creating PKGBUILDs for arch linux, which are instructions for building binaries. And I want them to be nearly-perfect and provide everything that they should provide. How do I know what they should provide? By looking what was done in the past. I got PKGBUILDs for 3.5.12 form kdemod3 git, i looked a little at old official KDE3 PKGBUILDs for arch, and I managed to include everything up until I got to kdebase PKGBUILD. My problem: I noticed that kdemod3 provided configuration files for pam. I was compiling kdebase with pam support, but never cared to check if this support was complete with configuration files. I got curious and begun examining things. From what I understood reading README.pam found in kdebase main dir, the "make install" should create automatically pam config files using mkpamserv script found in kdebase. By default the pam service would be called kde and the config file would be called the same. This would fit, since from what I read up until now on pam, the config file should be called the same as service name specified in pam_start() function. But usign autotools one could change the default name to something else using --with-pam=<name> (in fact this was done in the kdemod3 PKGBUILD to ensure KDE4 compatibility, since KDE4 packages provide it's own pam config file called kde), or better, provide different pam config files for each app that used pam using --with-kdm-pam=<name> for kdm, --with-kpc-pam=<name> for kcheckpass and --with-kss-pam for kscreensaver. Now, with CMake this isn't done. I still can manually generate the pam config files, using mkpamsrv script, but I wonder how the pam session (and config file) should be called. By default it would be kde, but I can't use it, since it would overwrite the kde4 pam config or would be overwritten on kde4 installation. And if I simply generate pam config files with other name, how do I ensure that apps with pam support are actually using them, and not serching instead for config/session called kde?

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[Cross-Post] Meeting 01 Feb 2012
by Robert Xu 29 Jan '12

29 Jan '12

Followup: 2/3 PM EST? Or back such as 12 PM EST? Also, can we get a list of topics? The few ones I can think of (I detached myself from Trinity stuff the past few months): Git migration Qt3/TQt3? CMake - what's left Observations/Concerns -- later daze. :: Robert Xu :: rxu.lincomlinux.org :: protocol.by/rxu

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Need help finding archived copies of Quanta Plus web site
by Darrell Anderson 28 Jan '12

28 Jan '12

The Quanta Plus web site no longer is in service: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/ We need that information. :) One, to support our own documentation efforts, on which I am working. Two, because the link in the Quanta Plus Help menu points to that broken link. If we had copies of the important web pages we can massage them for our wiki or web site and update the Help menu link accordingly. Otherwise we need to remove that link from the Help menu. Thanks! Darrell

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