7 Jan
2011
7 Jan
'11
9:05 p.m.
Time for a long email (didn't make it long on purpose, just had too much to
say):
Believe it or not, there are people that try to avoid GTK, and last I
checked Chrome uses GTK.
I do too but sometimes it is not worth the effort. Plus, there is too much
browser fragmentation already, although WebKit has managed to bring everyone
closer together, IMO.
I personally prefer Qt. The only reason I use Firefox
over Konqueror is for
site compatibility (I could never get Gmail and some other sites to display
right in Konqueror). Older versions of Flash (up to version 9) do work in
Konqueror, but this causes problems for videos using newer versions of
Flash. I have noticed, though, that Youtube works fine on my Wii's
Opera-based browser using Flash 7 (it is provided by the Wii Shop Channel
and the Wii doesn't allow me to browse the filesystem, so I can't upgrade
Flash). Outside of Youtube, I don't visit sites using Flash, and the ones
that use Flash get them blocked by one of my plugins. The only other GTK app
I use is Pidgin, and only because it has better support for file transfer. I
like Kopete much better, and Konqueror fits in with my KDE theme much better
than Firefox, so if it could render sites better, I'd use that instead.
The gtk-engines-qt isn't actually bad in making it fit but the version that
works with KDE3/Qt3 has some problems that need fixing, especially regarding
tickboxes.
When she referred to customizing Konqueror, I think
she was referring to
the options that are built-in (go to KDE Control Center and select Internet
& Networking, or open Konqueror and go to the Settings menu then choose
Configure Konqueror). It has more built-in features without the use of
plugins than any other browser I've used. The reason Knoqueror is lacking in
the plugins is because browsers like Firefox and Internet Exploiter
(Exploder?) caught people's attention first, so sites are developed mainly
for these browsers.
Fair enough.
Konqueror has worke well for me as FTP. Of course, I
don't do much FTP, and
it's rarely to upload stuff (I use SFTP (FTP through SSH) on a webserver).
Perhaps if you file a bug report for Trinity about what Konqueror isn't
doing right with FTP, it could get fixed at some point.
Will do when I see it again, I've had the fortune of not having to deal with
those FTPs for some time now that I don't even remember exactly which ones
they were.
I've heard good things about WebKit, and I believe
there is a Qt version of
WebKit. I haven't used it before, but it is based on KHTML and is what
Safari uses, so perhaps we could find a way to use it to replace KHTML (I've
heard rumors that's possible)?
I think it's Qt4 only based.
As for Chrome, I keep seeing references to it being
Proprietary Software.
For those of us who are Free Software Purists (I've been working toward
ridding myself of Proprietary stuff), Chrome isn't a rea option. While it is
a good browser for users of Proprietary Software who want a lean interface,
it is a good browser. But for those of us who are purists, Chrome won't cut
it.
Chrome is similar to Firefox AFAIK, but Chromium is the same thing and is
free software, which is the one I use.
I will be learning how to program in Qt/C++, and
I'll be starting within
the next couple days. It will be on my own time (and there isn't much of it,
so it could take awhile), though provided I can use another browsing engine
like WebKit or Mozilla's Gecko, I'd be willing to write a Free Software
browser based on Chrome (not exactly a clone of Chrome, just something with
a lean, configurable interface). Provided that tqtinterface is working by
the time I eventually get it to a usable state, we should be able to use it
in Trinity. Personally, though, I don't like overly-lean or overly-simple. I
need a menu bar,
It's hidden but there.
toolbar (back, forward, refresh, stop, home, and URL
bar, and a search bar
is a plus).
The search bar is embedded in the URL Bar. As for the rest, only the home
button is missing. Plus, it gives you more vertical space in smaller
devices.
tab bar, and status bar, and Chrome was missing the
menu bar and toolbar,
and I seem to remember the Chrome status bar disappearing whenever it was
idle (something that I found annoying). There is probably a way to change
this, I never bothered to look though.
The status is a good point, even though I don't particularly miss that.
I'm
all for the "more vertical space approach", especially in this era of wide
screens.
Best regards,
Tiago
--
Kris
"Piki"
Ark Linux Webmaster
Trinity KDE Packager