All,
Given what has been happening lately with respect to KDE4, and the media incorrectly attempting to portray us as directly competing with KDE4, and there only on reliability and direct feature-set parity, I have a challenge for you:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most. Leave KDE4 and other desktop environments completely out of the picture (no direct comparisons), and focus on the strengths of this particular desktop environment. Mentioning the general theme of your work (i.e. engineering, software development, sales, etc.) isn't a bad idea either; this would help us gather some demographics on who uses TDE vs who uses other desktops.
I am also interested in the other side of the coin: What do you hate about TDE the most? If other people agree the results could become the basis of some new enhancement requests, helping to make TDE better overall.
Send in your responses to this list. If we like something you say, it may be featured on the website sometime soon!
Tim
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 03:45:51 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
All,
Given what has been happening lately with respect to KDE4, and the media incorrectly attempting to portray us as directly competing with KDE4, and there only on reliability and direct feature-set parity, I have a challenge for you:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most. Leave KDE4 and other desktop environments completely out of the picture (no direct comparisons), and focus on the strengths of this particular desktop environment. Mentioning the general theme of your work (i.e. engineering, software development, sales, etc.) isn't a bad idea either; this would help us gather some demographics on who uses TDE vs who uses other desktops.
I use TDE on my home computer, and for literally everything (unless I'm on a computer too-limited to run a desktop environment). I like to keep things plain and simple, but I don't like having being limited in my options or ability to customize. I also don't much care for the "modern look" thing that most companies and projects are going for. That's exactly why I use TDE. It allows me to customize to my heart's content without over complicating things or forcing a "modern look" on my eyes ;-)
I am also interested in the other side of the coin: What do you hate about TDE the most? If other people agree the results could become the basis of some new enhancement requests, helping to make TDE better overall.
What do I hate the most about TDE? Hmm... Konqueror's KHTML severely outdated and doesn't work well on modern web sites. Also KOffice, which is too simplistic even for me. Other than these, I can't really think of anything :-)
On 16 November 2011 16:01, Kristopher John Gamrat chaotickjg@gmail.comwrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 03:45:51 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
All,
Given what has been happening lately with respect to KDE4, and the media incorrectly attempting to portray us as directly competing with KDE4, and there only on reliability and direct feature-set parity, I have a challenge for you:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most. Leave KDE4 and other desktop environments completely out of the picture (no direct comparisons), and focus on the strengths of this particular desktop environment. Mentioning the general theme of your work (i.e.
engineering,
software development, sales, etc.) isn't a bad idea either; this would help us gather some demographics on who uses TDE vs who uses other desktops.
I use TDE on my home computer, and for literally everything (unless I'm on a computer too-limited to run a desktop environment). I like to keep things plain and simple, but I don't like having being limited in my options or ability to customize. I also don't much care for the "modern look" thing that most companies and projects are going for. That's exactly why I use TDE. It allows me to customize to my heart's content without over complicating things or forcing a "modern look" on my eyes ;-)
I am also interested in the other side of the coin: What do you hate
about
TDE the most? If other people agree the results could become the basis
of
some new enhancement requests, helping to make TDE better overall.
What do I hate the most about TDE? Hmm... Konqueror's KHTML severely outdated and doesn't work well on modern web sites. Also KOffice, which is too simplistic even for me. Other than these, I can't really think of anything :-)
I like Trinity desktop because of it's integration and flexibility. I like to be able to work with a variety of different applications and for many purposes, and Trinity allows me to do exactly this. It is also very familiar, I like familiar. My family also likes familiar, and as such I can set them up running TDE quickly. They are average users and have no problem using Trinity. I like that it can be used by very basic users (them) and advanced users (me). Trinity Rocks!
I don't like Konquerors broken web browser capabilities. I also do not like how instable Kickoff is. I wish that Trinity would include integration for google calender and other google products. Most of all I would like to see Trinity have integration with LibreOffice.
Calvin Morrison.
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 04:10:04 pm Calvin Morrison wrote: <snip>
I wish that Trinity would include integration for google calender and other google products.
<snip>
Korganizer uses Google Calendar as the example for CalDAV, but it crashes when I try to click it. That certainly needs fixed, and other Google products would be greate.
As a Google Calendar workaround, you can go to your Google Calendar and retrieve the private link (use the XML link), and in Korganizer, choose the "Calendar in Remote File. Paste the link there.
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 04:10:04 pm Calvin Morrison wrote:
<snip> >I wish that Trinity would include integration for > google calender and other google products. <snip>
Korganizer uses Google Calendar as the example for CalDAV, but it crashes when I try to click it. That certainly needs fixed, and other Google products would be greate.
As a Google Calendar workaround, you can go to your Google Calendar and retrieve the private link (use the XML link), and in Korganizer, choose the "Calendar in Remote File. Paste the link there.
Is there a bug report on this? We can't fix what we are unaware of! :-)
Tim
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 04:23:48 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 04:10:04 pm Calvin Morrison wrote:
<snip>
I wish that Trinity would include integration for google calender and other google products.
<snip>
Korganizer uses Google Calendar as the example for CalDAV, but it crashes when I try to click it. That certainly needs fixed, and other Google products would be greate.
As a Google Calendar workaround, you can go to your Google Calendar and retrieve the private link (use the XML link), and in Korganizer, choose the "Calendar in Remote File. Paste the link there.
Is there a bug report on this? We can't fix what we are unaware of! :-)
Dunno. I'll search bugzilla and file a report if it's not there.
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 04:10:04 pm Calvin Morrison wrote: <snip>
I wish that Trinity would include integration for google calender and other google products. Most of all I would like to see Trinity have integration with LibreOffice.
Calendar bug is filed as bug #631: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=631
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 21:45:51 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most.
ok, here's my quotes: TDE stands in direct relationship to kde3 with respect to:
- speed/responsiveness even on older hardware - configurability - simplicity (this means: all data and configurations is in human-readable/writable text files, easy to maintain and backup) - complete set of well integrated applications for most day-to-day tasks
hence, with kde3 beeing dead, TDE is the only remaining chance to keep this heritage alive in recent linux distros.
there is more, of course, but these are the main advantages for me.
downside: konqueror as a web browser is now rather limited, esp. with respect to javascript/ajax. nevertheless, it works still quite well with most websites (even flash) and for those where it doesn't, I use something else (e.g. chromium).
werner
oh, not to forget: I really like koffice 1.6.3 - fast and simple, reads/writes odf format, no need for more 'features' here :) and of course quanta+ - still the best web editor/php dev tool ...
Le Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:45:51 -0600, "Timothy Pearson" kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net a écrit :
All,
Given what has been happening lately with respect to KDE4, and the media incorrectly attempting to portray us as directly competing with KDE4, and there only on reliability and direct feature-set parity, I have a challenge for you:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most. Leave KDE4 and other desktop environments completely out of the picture (no direct comparisons), and focus on the strengths of this particular desktop environment. Mentioning the general theme of your work (i.e. engineering, software development, sales, etc.) isn't a bad idea either; this would help us gather some demographics on who uses TDE vs who uses other desktops.
The thing I like the most in Trinity is that it is both easy to use and easily configurable: for example I have custom shortcuts that enable me to use some key combinations I learnt in other DEs (for example, Xfce and Compiz's Ctrl-Alt-Left/Right to change virtual desktops). It enables me to use almost the same shortcuts with Trinity, KDE4 and Xfce. Also, I like the fact that the applications are deeply integrated and behave the same. I also enjoy the great reactivity of Trinity, but anyway my hardware is powerful enough to make anything reactive (SSD, 6G RAM). For the work part, I'm a graduate student in theoretical CS (4th year of university; in France the equivalent of the Bachelor's, which we call Licence, takes 3 years to obtain).
I am also interested in the other side of the coin: What do you hate about TDE the most? If other people agree the results could become the basis of some new enhancement requests, helping to make TDE better overall.
-The themes provided by default. Everyone has their tastes, and mine don't like any KDE3/Trinity's included Qt3 style/icon theme. Now, with Trinity I use Polyester (that I compiled from the kde-look tarballs) and the Crystal Project icons, with a 100% transparent panel. I like Domino too. -Konqueror 3.5.13, which is the only navigator which integrates well to Trinity, doesn't support modern CSS.
Send in your responses to this list. If we like something you say, it may be featured on the website sometime soon!
Tim
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2011/11/16 Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net:
All,
Given what has been happening lately with respect to KDE4, and the media incorrectly attempting to portray us as directly competing with KDE4, and there only on reliability and direct feature-set parity, I have a challenge for you:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most. Leave KDE4 and other desktop environments completely out of the picture (no direct comparisons), and focus on the strengths of this particular desktop environment. Mentioning the general theme of your work (i.e. engineering, software development, sales, etc.) isn't a bad idea either; this would help us gather some demographics on who uses TDE vs who uses other desktops.
Well, I like that I can configure it any way I want, both in look in which I'm able to simulate both older OSes (like BeOS) and the newer ones (like OsX), i like DCOP and it's simplicity, I like how easy it goes on my hardware and on top of everything I like it because it has a large app base and for most of my tasks (which are really wide, from some simple programming for my school, to every-day task like listening to music, web browsing and so on).
I am also interested in the other side of the coin: What do you hate about TDE the most? If other people agree the results could become the basis of some new enhancement requests, helping to make TDE better overall.
I don't like the default themes which are a little outdated. I don't like that konqueror web engine is broken, and I don't like idea of having one app that have 2 really different functionalities mixed together (file management and web browsing) which I'd be happier to see in 2 separate apps. And I don't kinda like aRts, which started as something different (synth and DSP app) and ended as something else (sound mixer, media decoder interface, notification system[i'm not sure tho, but it's stated so in the documentation that i have found on it's page]). IMHO it should be spilt into smaller components, which do one task at the time (different thing for handling communication with alsa, different for sound mixing, different for media decoding and so on). And although It's a little time I don't like the notifications, which shows up in some ugly small popup, instead of using the OSD system that can be found for example in the amarok.
TDE is a true community project. Free of hierarchy based classes wars, everyone is equal.
The Trinity development team listens to and attempts to give its many end users what they want/need. Without looking down at them and/or scoffing at their ideas and suggestions. They also take every bug, error and compaint report seriously.
This, sadly is becoming rare among FOSS these days. The only other projects I know that take this "All for one and one for all" approach are Ark Linux, Unity Linux (and it's various child distros) and Yoper Linux. I believe/hope there are a few more.
This is something to be proud of, and this is likely to product an unparalleled desktop environment.
For what its worth...
Kate Draven Ark Linux/Yoper Linux/Unity Linux KDE3x/TDE/E17/LXDE
On 16/11/11 20:45, Timothy Pearson wrote:
All,
Given what has been happening lately with respect to KDE4, and the media incorrectly attempting to portray us as directly competing with KDE4, and there only on reliability and direct feature-set parity, I have a challenge for you:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most.
<snip> I'm really trying to be positive. I am!
What I like about TDE the most is that 1. I can see CPU activity in color, indicating how the CPUs are used, so I can, for example spot mlocate running (and stop+remove it). 2. see memory usage used/cache/swap in different colors 3. see network usage in different colors so I know which way packets are flowing 4. see the weather report with an icon showing me what the weather outside is like, even when the curtains are closed, saving me having to look out the window, complete with temperature, wind speed and wind direction 5. a quick launcher that's a panel applet 6. no nepomuk 7. Amarok before it thought it was more than a music player 8. kate before it thought it was a cairo showcase with silly search/replace dialogs 9. kdbg (?) that's not trying to get me to buy a larger display
I couldn't resist including this link - sorry. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=462978
I'm a software developer and I'm flabbergasted that people actually sat down and worked out that giving their desktop a new "skin" meant dropping the old one.
Maybe TDE can take inspiration from WinAmp and give users a choice.
Too much?
Philip
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most.
- I've been using KDE3 as my desktop of choice for many years and with Trinity I can continue using it in a familiar way. It has many configuration options that are easily accessible, so I can custonize it just the way I like it. The general feel when working in Trinity is efficient and snappy. Trinity doesn't come with much of what I percieve as visual clutter like animations or other graphical effects, and those there are I can disable easily. For me Trinity comes with the right balance of eye candy and efficiency.
- I'm basically living in my file manager. It's the most important application for me on any desktop, and I just love Konqueror's file manager part. It's a powerhorse that lets me have any number of views, has detailed list view as view type available which I can set as default, has right click servicemenus that I can customize and even write new ones, and I can drag and drop files to any application. I can put directories I often need access to as icons into the bookmark toolbar. I can also use Konqueror as an ftp client to work with remote file systems in a familiar way.
- I'm a web developer and have to be able to switch comfortably between applications like text editor, web browser and file manager. Trinity lets me do that without any fuss. I also love to use Kate as my editor for HTML authoring, PHP and Python programming, and love its features like customizable syntax highlighting for many languages, block selection mode, intelligent auto-indentation and view splitting. It is also pretty quick when scrolling large texts.
- I can customize my panel, move it to any edge of the desktop, give it a specific height in pixels, can have applications I often use in its launcher bar, can set the max width of entries in the task bar (only in a config file though), and can order all panel sections the way I want.
- The default menu is ordered sensibly. Where I disagree, I can edit it with a simple right click. I can add my own applications or start scripts easily.
- I can customize hotkeys in applications to the way I'm used to, and I can also set up hotkeys to start applications with a single keystroke.
I better stop here before it turns into a book :). Those points are the most important ones for me, though.
I am also interested in the other side of the coin: What do you hate about TDE the most?
I don't really hate anything. I'd prefer to not have my file manager mangled with a web browser, which admittedly I don't use anyway (I'm using Firefox), but it's not really too important for me. As long as Konqueror file manager keeps its awesome features, I'm happy. :)
Thanks, Sanne
On 17 November 2011 13:31, Sanne sanne@lavabit.com wrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most.
- I've been using KDE3 as my desktop of choice for many years and with
Trinity I can continue using it in a familiar way. It has many configuration options that are easily accessible, so I can custonize it just the way I like it. The general feel when working in Trinity is efficient and snappy. Trinity doesn't come with much of what I percieve as visual clutter like animations or other graphical effects, and those there are I can disable easily. For me Trinity comes with the right balance of eye candy and efficiency.
- I'm basically living in my file manager. It's the most important
application for me on any desktop, and I just love Konqueror's file manager part. It's a powerhorse that lets me have any number of views, has detailed list view as view type available which I can set as default, has right click servicemenus that I can customize and even write new ones, and I can drag and drop files to any application. I can put directories I often need access to as icons into the bookmark toolbar. I can also use Konqueror as an ftp client to work with remote file systems in a familiar way.
- I'm a web developer and have to be able to switch comfortably between
applications like text editor, web browser and file manager. Trinity lets me do that without any fuss. I also love to use Kate as my editor for HTML authoring, PHP and Python programming, and love its features like customizable syntax highlighting for many languages, block selection mode, intelligent auto-indentation and view splitting. It is also pretty quick when scrolling large texts.
- I can customize my panel, move it to any edge of the desktop, give it a
specific height in pixels, can have applications I often use in its launcher bar, can set the max width of entries in the task bar (only in a config file though), and can order all panel sections the way I want.
- The default menu is ordered sensibly. Where I disagree, I can edit it
with a simple right click. I can add my own applications or start scripts easily.
- I can customize hotkeys in applications to the way I'm used to, and I can
also set up hotkeys to start applications with a single keystroke.
I better stop here before it turns into a book :). Those points are the most important ones for me, though.
I am also interested in the other side of the coin: What do you hate
about
TDE the most?
I don't really hate anything. I'd prefer to not have my file manager mangled with a web browser, which admittedly I don't use anyway (I'm using Firefox), but it's not really too important for me. As long as Konqueror file manager keeps its awesome features, I'm happy. :)
Thanks, Sanne
I guess i've heard it a few times now, but I dont think anyone has seriously considered just "dropping" the web browser out of konqueror.
Tim any thoughts on it?
Calvin
On 17 November 2011 13:31, Sanne sanne@lavabit.com wrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most.
- I've been using KDE3 as my desktop of choice for many years and with
Trinity I can continue using it in a familiar way. It has many configuration options that are easily accessible, so I can custonize it just the way I like it. The general feel when working in Trinity is efficient and snappy. Trinity doesn't come with much of what I percieve as visual clutter like animations or other graphical effects, and those there are I can disable easily. For me Trinity comes with the right balance of eye candy and efficiency.
- I'm basically living in my file manager. It's the most important
application for me on any desktop, and I just love Konqueror's file manager part. It's a powerhorse that lets me have any number of views, has detailed list view as view type available which I can set as default, has right click servicemenus that I can customize and even write new ones, and I can drag and drop files to any application. I can put directories I often need access to as icons into the bookmark toolbar. I can also use Konqueror as an ftp client to work with remote file systems in a familiar way.
- I'm a web developer and have to be able to switch comfortably between
applications like text editor, web browser and file manager. Trinity lets me do that without any fuss. I also love to use Kate as my editor for HTML authoring, PHP and Python programming, and love its features like customizable syntax highlighting for many languages, block selection mode, intelligent auto-indentation and view splitting. It is also pretty quick when scrolling large texts.
- I can customize my panel, move it to any edge of the desktop, give it
a specific height in pixels, can have applications I often use in its launcher bar, can set the max width of entries in the task bar (only in a config file though), and can order all panel sections the way I want.
- The default menu is ordered sensibly. Where I disagree, I can edit it
with a simple right click. I can add my own applications or start scripts easily.
- I can customize hotkeys in applications to the way I'm used to, and I
can also set up hotkeys to start applications with a single keystroke.
I better stop here before it turns into a book :). Those points are the most important ones for me, though.
I am also interested in the other side of the coin: What do you hate
about
TDE the most?
I don't really hate anything. I'd prefer to not have my file manager mangled with a web browser, which admittedly I don't use anyway (I'm using Firefox), but it's not really too important for me. As long as Konqueror file manager keeps its awesome features, I'm happy. :)
Thanks, Sanne
I guess i've heard it a few times now, but I dont think anyone has seriously considered just "dropping" the web browser out of konqueror.
Tim any thoughts on it?
Calvin
Konqueror is based on a flexible plugin-oriented architecture. It's not something you can permanently remove, as the plugin can always be compiled after Konqueror is installed. ;-)
There are no plans to remove any Konqueror functionality at this time. There are plans however to improve the KHTML plugin so that it is usable again on modern sites.
Tim
On Thursday 17 November 2011 19:40:05 Calvin Morrison wrote:
I guess i've heard it a few times now, but I dont think anyone has seriously considered just "dropping" the web browser out of konqueror.
I don't think it makes sense to put any effort into stripping out web browsing capabilities out of konqi (if possible at all). those who don't like it to browse the web, just don't use it. setting another browser as default is easy. in addition, there is dolphin as a pure filemanager.
werner
On Thursday 17 November 2011 19:31:33 Sanne wrote:
- I'm a web developer and have to be able to switch comfortably between
applications like text editor, web browser and file manager. Trinity lets me do that without any fuss. I also love to use Kate as my editor for HTML authoring, PHP and Python programming, and love its features like customizable syntax highlighting for many languages, block selection mode, intelligent auto-indentation and view splitting. It is also pretty quick when scrolling large texts.
did you ever try kdewebdev/quanta+ ? (this is btw. also a strong argument for me to prefer trinity, as it is more or less the only base left to support a full-featured quanta, incl. kio-slaves etc...)
werner
did you ever try kdewebdev/quanta+ ? (this is btw. also a strong argument for me to prefer trinity, as it is more or less the only base left to support a full-featured quanta, incl. kio-slaves etc...)
Quanta Plus is one of those apps I always wanted to learn, but I never seem to be able to grasp and wrap my head around. Have you ever considered consolidating information around the web for a nice tutorial for Trinity? (Hint! Hint! :D )
Darrell
On Thursday 17 November 2011 19:53:14 Darrell Anderson wrote:
Quanta Plus is one of those apps I always wanted to learn, but I never seem to be able to grasp and wrap my head around. Have you ever considered consolidating information around the web for a nice tutorial for Trinity? (Hint! Hint! :D )
got it :) (in german, this is called a 'wink mit dem zaunpfahl' ;-) ) and yes, I already did 2 of these bits floating around: http://www.hoernerfranzracing.de/kde/gubed.shtml and http://www.hoernerfranzracing.de/kde/script-actions.html
werner
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Werner Joss wrote:
did you ever try kdewebdev/quanta+ ? (this is btw. also a strong argument for me to prefer trinity, as it is more or less the only base left to support a full-featured quanta, incl. kio-slaves etc...)
I did actually, but it was some years ago. As I remember, I found it quite nice, but I still keep going back to do things how I learned them, that is, plain text editor with good syntax highlighting. It's the same with Python, I try out IDEs from time to time, but before long I'm back to basics.
I do mostly small to mid sized projects that are manageable nicely that way. For larger projects IDEs might be the better choice though. Maybe I should look at Quanta again, thanks for the reminder. :)
Sanne
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Sanne wrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Write a few sentences stating what you like about TDE most.
- I've been using KDE3 as my desktop of choice for many years and with
Trinity I can continue using it in a familiar way. It has many configuration options that are easily accessible, so I can custonize it just the way I like it. The general feel when working in Trinity is efficient and snappy. Trinity doesn't come with much of what I percieve as visual clutter like animations or other graphical effects, and those there are I can disable easily. For me Trinity comes with the right balance of eye candy and efficiency.
- I'm basically living in my file manager. It's the most important
application for me on any desktop, and I just love Konqueror's file manager part. It's a powerhorse that lets me have any number of views, has detailed list view as view type available which I can set as default, has right click servicemenus that I can customize and even write new ones, and I can drag and drop files to any application. I can put directories I often need access to as icons into the bookmark toolbar. I can also use Konqueror as an ftp client to work with remote file systems in a familiar way.
- I'm a web developer and have to be able to switch comfortably between
applications like text editor, web browser and file manager. Trinity lets me do that without any fuss. I also love to use Kate as my editor for HTML authoring, PHP and Python programming, and love its features like customizable syntax highlighting for many languages, block selection mode, intelligent auto-indentation and view splitting. It is also pretty quick when scrolling large texts.
- I can customize my panel, move it to any edge of the desktop, give it a
specific height in pixels, can have applications I often use in its launcher bar, can set the max width of entries in the task bar (only in a config file though), and can order all panel sections the way I want.
- The default menu is ordered sensibly. Where I disagree, I can edit it
with a simple right click. I can add my own applications or start scripts easily.
- I can customize hotkeys in applications to the way I'm used to, and I can
also set up hotkeys to start applications with a single keystroke.
I better stop here before it turns into a book :). Those points are the most important ones for me, though.
I am also interested in the other side of the coin: What do you hate about TDE the most?
I don't really hate anything. I'd prefer to not have my file manager mangled with a web browser, which admittedly I don't use anyway (I'm using Firefox), but it's not really too important for me. As long as Konqueror file manager keeps its awesome features, I'm happy. :)
Thanks, Sanne
I agree with everything here, especially about konq, I also live in konq. I do, however, like having konq as a web browser. I feel the html engine should be fixed. Trust me there are some advantages konq has over FF as a web browser.
Thanks
Kate
On Thursday 17 November 2011 04:02:41 pm Kate Draven wrote:
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Sanne wrote:
I don't really hate anything. I'd prefer to not have my file manager mangled with a web browser, which admittedly I don't use anyway (I'm using Firefox), but it's not really too important for me. As long as Konqueror file manager keeps its awesome features, I'm happy. :)
Thanks, Sanne
I agree with everything here, especially about konq, I also live in konq. I do, however, like having konq as a web browser. I feel the html engine should be fixed. Trust me there are some advantages konq has over FF as a web browser.
Nothing saying you have to use Konqueror as a browser, there's the obvious alternative of Firefox, and also Arora, and Dolphin for file manager :-)
The only real advantage of Firefox over Konqueror (besides the broken KHTML) is more development of plugins, but that's only because they receive more attention. I think, once KHTML is either fixed or replaced, we can get more plugins developed :-)
Nothing saying you have to use Konqueror as a browser,
there's the obvious alternative of Firefox, and also Arora, and Dolphin for file manager :-)
I'm outta here if Dolphin ever replaces the mighty Konqueror as a file manager! :)
One of the features I enjoy about Trinity is the Konqueror file manager. I have tried others and there is no comparison. Part of the reason I always remained with KDE3/Trinity is Konqueror. I get especially frustrated when I have to use the Windows file manager.
Detailed list view is a killer for me.
An app I enjoy that few people know is KLinkStatus. A wonderful tool to validate links in a web site.
KSnapshot is about as easy as a snapshot tool can get.
Amarok 1.4.10 is almost perfect for me.
Darrell
On Thursday 17 November 2011 04:45:06 pm Darrell Anderson wrote:
I'm outta here if Dolphin ever replaces the mighty Konqueror as a file manager! :)
One of the features I enjoy about Trinity is the Konqueror file manager. I have tried others and there is no comparison. Part of the reason I always remained with KDE3/Trinity is Konqueror. I get especially frustrated when I have to use the Windows file manager.
Konqueror is similar enough t Windows Explorer in older versions of Windows that I think most people can adjust, but Konqueror is so much more as a file manager Dolphin is way too simplistic and doesn't integrate with kio slaves. It's very popular among the newbie distros, though.
On Thursday 17 November 2011 22:56:08 Kristopher John Gamrat wrote:
Dolphin is way too simplistic and doesn't integrate with kio slaves.
that's because dolphin for kde3 was left in an early development stage. dolphin for kde4 has kio slave integration, though.
werner
On Thursday 17 November 2011 22:56:08 Kristopher John Gamrat wrote:
I agree with everything here, especially about konq, I also live in konq. I do, however, like having konq as a web browser. I feel the html engine should be fixed. Trust me there are some advantages konq has over FF as a web browser.
+1
werner
On Friday 18 November 2011 02:35:24 am Serghei Amelian wrote:
On Thursday 17 November 2011 23:56:08 Kristopher John Gamrat wrote: [...]
file manager Dolphin is way too simplistic and doesn't integrate with kio slaves.
Wrong, Dolphin use kioslaves, you can use sftp with it, for example.
Confirmed, just tested sftp:// and media:/ in Dolphin on TDE 3.5.13, both work. Those always gave me an unkown protocol error in KDE 3.5.10.
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Darrell Anderson wrote:
Nothing saying you have to use Konqueror as a browser,
there's the obvious alternative of Firefox, and also Arora, and Dolphin for file manager :-)
I'm outta here if Dolphin ever replaces the mighty Konqueror as a file manager! :)
One of the features I enjoy about Trinity is the Konqueror file manager. I have tried others and there is no comparison. Part of the reason I always remained with KDE3/Trinity is Konqueror.
+9 :-)
I use split screen in konqueror -- with fish:// in one panel on my (remote) production web site(s) and the other panel in my local Apache file:// development directory(s).
I'm a command line junkie for the most part, but that drag-n-drop for file uploading is the cat's meow. Especially with multiple files having common name preambles.
Jonesy
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Marvin L. Jones wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Darrell Anderson wrote:
Nothing saying you have to use Konqueror as a browser,
there's the obvious alternative of Firefox, and also Arora, and Dolphin for file manager :-)
I'm outta here if Dolphin ever replaces the mighty Konqueror as a file manager! :)
One of the features I enjoy about Trinity is the Konqueror file manager. I have tried others and there is no comparison. Part of the reason I always remained with KDE3/Trinity is Konqueror.
+9 :-)
I use split screen in konqueror -- with fish:// in one panel on my (remote) production web site(s) and the other panel in my local Apache file:// development directory(s).
I'm a command line junkie for the most part, but that drag-n-drop for file uploading is the cat's meow. Especially with multiple files having common name preambles.
Jonesy
Cheers Jonsey
Aye, likewise. I live on konq, konsole and yakuake.
Kate
On Friday 18 November 2011 02:12:17 Kate Draven wrote:
Aye, likewise. I live on konq, konsole and yakuake.
yes, especially yakuake - konsole anytime, anywhere just a keystroke (F12) away ! haven't found anything similar in any other DE/WM..
werner
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Darrell Anderson wrote:
Nothing saying you have to use Konqueror as a browser,
there's the obvious alternative of Firefox, and also Arora, and Dolphin for file manager :-)
I'm outta here if Dolphin ever replaces the mighty Konqueror as a file manager! :)
One of the features I enjoy about Trinity is the Konqueror file manager. I have tried others and there is no comparison. Part of the reason I always remained with KDE3/Trinity is Konqueror. I get especially frustrated when I have to use the Windows file manager.
Detailed list view is a killer for me.
An app I enjoy that few people know is KLinkStatus. A wonderful tool to validate links in a web site.
KSnapshot is about as easy as a snapshot tool can get.
Amarok 1.4.10 is almost perfect for me.
Darrell
I agree.
No offense to Dolphine, but it just doesn't cut it for power filemanagement. I live on detailed tree view myself.
Kate
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Kate Draven wrote:
I agree with everything here, especially about konq, I also live in konq. I do, however, like having konq as a web browser. I feel the html engine should be fixed. Trust me there are some advantages konq has over FF as a web browser.
Nice to know there's a kindred spirit. :)
I'm sure Konqeror can be a nice web browser also, it's just that I sorta grew up on Firefox and got very used to its ways and great extensions, especially for web development. I don't like the recent change in versioning though, and it does feel a bit heavy lately.
Thanks, Sanne
On Thursday 17 November 2011 04:15:47 pm Sanne wrote:
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Kate Draven wrote:
I agree with everything here, especially about konq, I also live in konq. I do, however, like having konq as a web browser. I feel the html engine should be fixed. Trust me there are some advantages konq has over FF as a web browser.
Nice to know there's a kindred spirit. :)
I'm sure Konqeror can be a nice web browser also, it's just that I sorta grew up on Firefox and got very used to its ways and great extensions, especially for web development. I don't like the recent change in versioning though, and it does feel a bit heavy lately.
That's one of the main reasons we want KHTML replaced/fixed. Konqueror remains light.
There was a Firefox fork called Flock awhile back. I don't know if it still exists.
There's also Arora. Chromium/Chrome is becoming popular also.
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Sanne wrote:
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Kate Draven wrote:
I agree with everything here, especially about konq, I also live in konq. I do, however, like having konq as a web browser. I feel the html engine should be fixed. Trust me there are some advantages konq has over FF as a web browser.
Nice to know there's a kindred spirit. :)
I'm sure Konqeror can be a nice web browser also, it's just that I sorta grew up on Firefox and got very used to its ways and great extensions, especially for web development. I don't like the recent change in versioning though, and it does feel a bit heavy lately.
Thanks, Sanne
There's the beauty of FOSS, I have a bunch of webbrowsers and, depending on my mood, use which ever I want. So Fox away mate.
Kate
PS KonqiHeads rule!
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