What about videos in kaboodle? I am discovering that some user accounts can open both apps but some accounts can't. On the accounts that I can open both, I can get both to play audio files, but I can't get kaboodle to play video files. Just hangs. The apps work in 3.5.13.2 so I don't think that is the problem. Even if that was the problem, I'd expect the apps do just do nothing rather than freeze and hang. I also would expect some spew in the xsession-error log but there is nothing. I build all of my packages with debugging enabled. Deleting rc files makes no difference. Darrell