Hi
everyone,
I have a few concerns about TDE R14 and 3.5.13.2 SRU
It seems to me that 3.5.13.2 SRU has next to perfect stability,
features
and reliability, while R14 is not there yet.
By looking at this page:
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/ ,
almost
all I can see is that the dev team is working
very hard to just keep
R14
in working conditions. Sometimes Amarok
doesn't start, sometimes
desktop
or menus are unresponsive for a moment, some
themes doesn't work
completely and it is not like if the user would benefit from a new set
of
feature or a complete visual overhaul. I cannot
see why an user would
benefit from using the upcoming R14 when it is compared to the
stability
of 3.5.13.2 SRU. Everything works as it should in
3.5.13.2. It would
have
been a very good ground for improving TDE on top
of it. All of this
trouble is supposed to be for the integrations of QT4 parts in TDE,
but it
seems to me that in R14, it will be used nowhere,
not even for a
single
check-box in a config panel. Maybe it is just me,
maybe I would need
some
explanations.
I mean that if the efforts has been made to make TDE more attractive
to
new users and to modernize it, it would certainly
have more
popularity. As
well as making a new ''outside''
on top of an outdated car is not
good,
changing everything under the hood and keeping
the old outdated
''outside'' is certainly not better at all. I know that TDE could be
better, if some attention could be thrown at things that are not just
under the hood.
Just one man's opinion...
Tell us what you think!
-Alexandre
For starters, look at the number of reported crashes from the threaded
components of the 3.5.13.x series. Those reports *cannot* be fixed
without the major threading changes made in TQt3 for R14.0.0. Just
because something is stable on your system does not mean that it will be
stable on someone else's system if threading is involved. ;-) Also keep
in mind that R14 finally gets rid of HAL (and in fact uses many modern
services for mounting, network management, etc.)--without those changes,
TDE users would find it increasingly more difficult, if possible at all,
to perform basic tasks like connecting to wireless networks and mounting
USB flash drives.
There is a reason that we have been constantly delaying R14--that is to
make sure R14 is a high quality, stable release.
Tim
Hi,
Of course, the introduction of the new hardware platform is not what
causes problems and yes, over the time and releases, R14 will get back to
the reliability of 3.5.13.2.
But with all the renaming issues (which does not improve TDE at all), a
lot of dev time has been used, and this time
would have been better used for things that are not under the hood only.
The current TDE look-and-feel was great in Win XP era, but time has
changed. Interfaces have evolved, sometimes for the worse (MS office
ribbon...) and sometimes for the better (Win 7 and parts of KDE 4). I am
sure that there is some things to do to refresh TDE, but it needs some
openness from the TDE dev team.
Some pop-ups could be made less intrusive, some widgets could be made to
be less Win95-like and many little details could change, just to make sure
that TDE doesn't die over the time because it was frozen forever in 2005.
MATE has already improved its theming and color scheme to refresh its
appearance. Their website is more attractive, and it doesn't means that it
has removed features to MATE or that their website is unusable.
-Alexandre