Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
The OS may want to call them another name like wlan1 and eth1.
On 4/13/14, Robert Peters robertpeters9@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
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On 13 April 2014 23:36, Chris Graham chrisdgraham22@gmail.com wrote:
The OS may want to call them another name like wlan1 and eth1.
On 4/13/14, Robert Peters robertpeters9@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
Thanks; I tried using those names and got this: # ifconfig wlan1 up # wlan1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device # ifconfig eth1 up # eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
lspci -k shows the modules e1000e and iwlwifi in its list.
lsmod | sort shows an associated module name for each devices, except these two: Network controller: Intel Corporation Device 08b2 (rev 83) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device c270 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Device 155a (rev 04) Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2214
Maybe I haven't resewarched far enough... Robert
Hi, Robert!
On Sunday 13 April 2014 22:33:16 Robert Peters wrote:
My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do?
Find out whether they are there and what Trinity is calling them if they are by running:
# ifconfig -a
which will list all the cards it can see.
(That is out of date. The current preference is for # ip but it is difficult for me to read, so I don't use it. ifconfig still works!)
Lisi
On Monday 14 April 2014 00:33:16 Robert Peters wrote:
Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
Check dmesg. Most probably you did not installed the firmwares required by your network cards.
On 14 April 2014 00:05, Serghei Amelian serghei@thel.ro wrote:
On Monday 14 April 2014 00:33:16 Robert Peters wrote:
Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
Check dmesg. Most probably you did not installed the firmwares required by your network cards. -- Serghei
True, the network devices don't get loaded. I have copied iwlwifi ucode files to /lib/firmware and am trying to find how to get the kernel to use them on startup. Robert
On Monday 14 April 2014 11:45:06 you wrote:
On 14 April 2014 00:05, Serghei Amelian serghei@thel.ro wrote:
On Monday 14 April 2014 00:33:16 Robert Peters wrote:
Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
Check dmesg. Most probably you did not installed the firmwares required by your network cards. -- Serghei
True, the network devices don't get loaded. I have copied iwlwifi ucode files to /lib/firmware and am trying to find how to get the kernel to use them on startup. Robert
You sould not have to manually add firmware, afaik.
Somethng like the following link might help, Ubuntu is similar, try their site.
https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi
My thinkpad is a 520 series and works with Wheezy and TDE 14.
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
On 14 April 2014 00:05, Serghei Amelian serghei@thel.ro wrote:
On Monday 14 April 2014 00:33:16 Robert Peters wrote:
Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
Check dmesg. Most probably you did not installed the firmwares required by your network cards. -- Serghei
True, the network devices don't get loaded. I have copied iwlwifi ucode files to /lib/firmware and am trying to find how to get the kernel to use them on startup. Robert
I'm not clear how you determined that the network devices are not loaded. what did you do?
Lisi said you should run
/sbin/ifconfig -a
but I wasn't sure if you actually ran this command. what did it say? in particular is 'wlan1' or 'wlan0' there?
have a look at
/etc/network/interfaces
what does it say? in particular, is the following line in there?
iface wlan1 inet dhcp
that may be 'wlan0' instead.
and does
lsmod
show your iwifi stuff is loaded?
there are a couple more things worth doing but this is enough for now since I've asked a lot of questions.
I find the debian stuff requires a lot of foolin' to get going but the worst of it is, once it gets going you don't have to bother with it again for an eternity so you forget the tricks and then have to re-learn on the rare occasion when it does fail or you do a new install or something.
I use the exegnu stuff exclusively.
F.
On 15 April 2014 07:47, Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
<snip>
I'm not clear how you determined that the network devices are not loaded. what did you do?
Lisi said you should run
/sbin/ifconfig -a
but I wasn't sure if you actually ran this command. what did it say? in particular is 'wlan1' or 'wlan0' there?
have a look at
/etc/network/interfaces
what does it say? in particular, is the following line in there?
iface wlan1 inet dhcp
that may be 'wlan0' instead.
and does lsmod show your iwifi stuff is loaded?
there are a couple more things worth doing but this is enough for now since I've asked a lot of questions.
I find the debian stuff requires a lot of foolin' to get going but the worst of it is, once it gets going you don't have to bother with it again for an eternity so you forget the tricks and then have to re-learn on the rare occasion when it does fail or you do a new install or something.
I use the exegnu stuff exclusively.
F.
Hello,
/sbin/ifconfig -a showed only the loopback device lo, and /etc/network/interfaces lists only lo. I did go to https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi, fetched the firmware deb, copied it into my Trinity partition (it has no internet) and followed the installation instructions. But after reboot, iwconfig still showed no wlan device.
In reference to the asides on pclinuxos, etc, I found and tried Linux Mint Debian with MATE on a live USB - liked it and installed it in place of my Lubuntu setup. I find its interface much nicer than Lubuntu or XFCE and like its ability to make a wireless connection on my newer hardware. I am able to easily install and use some of my Trinity favorites like Krusader and Gwenview. So for the time being I will stick with it and avoid further frustration.
Thanks to everyone for all the help and ideas!
Robert
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
On 15 April 2014 07:47, Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
<snip>
I'm not clear how you determined that the network devices are not loaded. what did you do?
Lisi said you should run
/sbin/ifconfig -a
but I wasn't sure if you actually ran this command. what did it say? in particular is 'wlan1' or 'wlan0' there?
have a look at
/etc/network/interfaces
what does it say? in particular, is the following line in there?
iface wlan1 inet dhcp
that may be 'wlan0' instead.
and does lsmod show your iwifi stuff is loaded?
there are a couple more things worth doing but this is enough for now since I've asked a lot of questions.
I find the debian stuff requires a lot of foolin' to get going but the worst of it is, once it gets going you don't have to bother with it again for an eternity so you forget the tricks and then have to re-learn on the rare occasion when it does fail or you do a new install or something.
I use the exegnu stuff exclusively.
F.
Hello,
/sbin/ifconfig -a showed only the loopback device lo, and /etc/network/interfaces lists only lo. I did go to https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi, fetched the firmware deb, copied it into my Trinity partition (it has no internet) and followed the installation instructions. But after reboot, iwconfig still showed no wlan device.
too bad.
from below I know you have moved on but I'm curious, do you know the kernel you were using?
uname -a
I've found I've had to update the kernel to get wifi going. (I just remembered this.)
I think I mentioned I've got it running on a Thinkpad X103e (with Broadcom drivers).
In reference to the asides on pclinuxos, etc, I found and tried Linux Mint Debian with MATE on a live USB - liked it and installed it in place of my Lubuntu setup. I find its interface much nicer than Lubuntu or XFCE and like its ability to make a wireless connection on my newer hardware. I am able to easily install and use some of my Trinity favorites like Krusader and Gwenview. So for the time being I will stick with it and avoid further frustration.
Mint is pretty nice. I'm sticking with Debian though. once it's set up it's out of my face.
Thanks to everyone for all the help and ideas!
it's always an 'education' foolin' with this stuff, so there's at least that. glad you are good to go!
F.
sorry top-posting: actually, an easy way using the exegnu distro is to use 'ceni' to set up your network. try it.
F.
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
On 14 April 2014 00:05, Serghei Amelian serghei@thel.ro wrote:
On Monday 14 April 2014 00:33:16 Robert Peters wrote:
Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
Check dmesg. Most probably you did not installed the firmwares required by your network cards. -- Serghei
True, the network devices don't get loaded. I have copied iwlwifi ucode files to /lib/firmware and am trying to find how to get the kernel to use them on startup. Robert
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
On 14 April 2014 00:05, Serghei Amelian serghei@thel.ro wrote:
On Monday 14 April 2014 00:33:16 Robert Peters wrote:
Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
Check dmesg. Most probably you did not installed the firmwares required by your network cards. -- Serghei
True, the network devices don't get loaded. I have copied iwlwifi ucode files to /lib/firmware and am trying to find how to get the kernel to use them on startup. Robert
Hi,
Have a good look at the first parts of the dmesg content. It will probably show you what is missing. These cards needs 2 things, which is easy to misunderstand how it works: 1. A driver: The driver is needed to let the OS use the hardware. 2. The microcode (sometimes named firmware): The hardware needs the microcode to work, and it has no link to the operating system. The only thing that the OS do is to download the microcode in the hardware. Then, the hardware of the card will work.
Wonder why Debian is so appreciated still in 2014. On PCLinuxOS, 98% of the time all of your hardware is auto-configured. All of the required drivers and microcodes are provided as a default, and if Linux doesn't support at all your card, in the PCLinuxOS Control Center, you can graphically load your Windows driver to let it be used by ndiswrapper. In the Network Center, you can see the state of all your connections very easily. Using the Konsole in not even necessary. All of these also applies to Mageia too.While Debian is known to be reliable, it does next to nothing to simplify the life of their users. So, all I can recommend you is to try my PCLinuxOS non-official TDE remaster: http://trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/LiveCDs
The next release of my LiveCD is also coming in a few weeks, still based on stable 3.5.13.2.
Have a nice day! -Alexandre
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 12:56:04 Alexandre wrote:
Wonder why Debian is so appreciated still in 2014. On PCLinuxOS, 98% of the time all of your hardware is auto-configured.
Horses for courses, Alexandre. I administered PCLOS for a couple of years for my husband and granddaughter. There were good points, but I didn't particularly like it long term. Of course, I haven't actually run it for a while, so I may be out of date, but the same, I suspect, applies to your experience of Debian.
As I get older, the attraction of a quiet life grows greater. I now administer four boxen: 3 desktops and one laptop. All four run Debian 7 and TDE 3.5.13.2. All 4 users/owners are happy.
Lisi
From: Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014
I administered PCLOS for a couple of years for my husband and granddaughter. There were good points, but I didn't particularly like it long term.
Of course, I haven't actually run it for a while, so I may be out of date, but the same, I suspect, applies to your experience of Debian.
Lisi
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PCLos hasn't gotten any better over the years. If you visit the forum you'll see endless complaints about the apps no longer working. The problem with PCLos is the *rolling updates* that tend to muck things up.
Rather than updating/configuring everything at once, they update the libraries one-at-a-time and this leads to the conflicts.
On 04/15/2014 09:32 PM, Tini wrote:
From: Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014
PCLos hasn't gotten any better over the years. If you visit the forum you'll see endless complaints about the apps no longer working. The problem with PCLos is the *rolling updates* that tend to muck things up.
Rather than updating/configuring everything at once, they update the libraries one-at-a-time and this leads to the conflicts.
Lisi Tell me you are joking :-) Tell me you wrote this because you had a bad day :-) If you read the forums carefully, you will find out that half the complaints are exactly the same complaints as you find in "any other forum", even in 'non'-rolling distros. The other half I could agree with you , but then, if you update every day or not, is your decision, not the dev's decision. Many of the apps which < do > break your system, are fixed the next day ( or so ). So, applying logic to this,...don't update every day. Rather update every 2 weeks or once a month. But...........there seems to be an urge to have the latest .......every day , 365 days a year !
Have a good day Tony Note: My wife's Lenovo ( her specific/private partition) hasn't had a breakage for over a year, as it hasn't been updated for said period of time. ( How more stable can you get :-) Have a nice day
I wrote that UNDER Lisi's post. Since I don't hit the other forums I don't know what their problems are. But I do know that PCLOS has many problems with the updates.
--- Original Message --- From: Tony Wolfs tony.wolfs@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014
On 04/15/2014 09:32 PM, Tini wrote:
From: Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014
PCLos hasn't gotten any better over the years. If you visit the forum you'll see endless complaints about the apps no longer working. The problem with PCLos is the *rolling updates* that tend to muck things up.
Rather than updating/configuring everything at once, they update the libraries one-at-a-time and this leads to the conflicts.
Lisi Tell me you are joking :-) Tell me you wrote this because you had a bad day :-) If you read the forums carefully, you will find out that half the complaints are exactly the same complaints as you find in "any other forum", even in 'non'-rolling distros.
The other half I could agree with you, but then, if you update every day or not, is your decision, not the dev's decision.
Many of the apps which < do > break your system, are fixed the next day ( or so ).
So, applying logic to this,...don't update every day. Rather update every 2 weeks or once a month.
But...........there seems to be an urge to have the latest .......every day, 365 days a year!
Have a good day
Tony Note: My wife's Lenovo (her specific/private partition) hasn't had a breakage for over a year, as it hasn't been updated for said period of time. (How more stable can you get :-)
Have a nice day
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 05:08:39 Tony Wolfs wrote:
On 04/15/2014 09:32 PM, Tini wrote:
From: Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014
PCLos hasn't gotten any better over the years. If you visit the forum you'll see endless complaints about the apps no longer working. The problem with PCLos is the *rolling updates* that tend to muck things up.
Rather than updating/configuring everything at once, they update the libraries one-at-a-time and this leads to the conflicts.
Lisi Tell me you are joking :-)
No - I didn't say this. It was Tini who said it.
I have looked at Tini's post. I simply don't see how you could possibly have thought that I said it. :-?
I do however agree with Tini about the problems caused in it by the fact that it is a rolling distro. Ever since PCLOS I won't even look at another rolling distro.
Tell me you wrote this because you had a bad day :-) If you read the forums carefully, you will find out that half the complaints are exactly the same complaints as you find in "any other forum", even in 'non'-rolling distros. The other half I could agree with you , but then, if you update every day or not, is your decision, not the dev's decision. Many of the apps which < do > break your system, are fixed the next day ( or so ). So, applying logic to this,...don't update every day. Rather update every 2 weeks or once a month. But...........there seems to be an urge to have the latest .......every day , 365 days a year !
Have a good day Tony Note: My wife's Lenovo ( her specific/private partition) hasn't had a breakage for over a year, as it hasn't been updated for said period of time. ( How more stable can you get :-)
You can however get more secure. Heartbleed???
Have a nice day
Ditto, Lisi
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 12:56:04 Alexandre wrote:
Wonder why Debian is so appreciated still in 2014. On PCLinuxOS, 98% of the time all of your hardware is auto-configured.
Horses for courses, Alexandre. I administered PCLOS for a couple of years for my husband and granddaughter. There were good points, but I didn't particularly like it long term. Of course, I haven't actually run it for a while, so I may be out of date, but the same, I suspect, applies to your experience of Debian.
As I get older, the attraction of a quiet life grows greater. I now administer four boxen: 3 desktops and one laptop. All four run Debian 7 and TDE 3.5.13.2. All 4 users/owners are happy.
you got into trouble disparaging pclinux, will be interested to see how that debate plays out but I'm wholly with you about the 'quiet life', an operating system should be like a graceful host, after the introductions they get out of the way so the show can go on. Debian does that for me.
F.
On 04/16/2014 12:25 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 12:56:04 Alexandre wrote:
Wonder why Debian is so appreciated still in 2014. On PCLinuxOS, 98% of the time all of your hardware is auto-configured.
Horses for courses, Alexandre. I administered PCLOS for a couple of years for my husband and granddaughter. There were good points, but I didn't particularly like it long term. Of course, I haven't actually run it for a while, so I may be out of date, but the same, I suspect, applies to your experience of Debian.
As I get older, the attraction of a quiet life grows greater. I now administer four boxen: 3 desktops and one laptop. All four run Debian 7 and TDE 3.5.13.2. All 4 users/owners are happy.
you got into trouble disparaging pclinux, will be interested to see how that debate plays out but I'm wholly with you about the 'quiet life', an operating system should be like a graceful host, after the introductions they get out of the way so the show can go on. Debian does that for me.
F.
I do not consider this a debate ! Someone has an opinion based on her/his personal experiences. I have a different opinion , based on my personal experiences. The definition of the word << problem >> is worth a debate, not my difference of opinion with L or T. Many times the word < problem > stands for : Lack of experience of .......something. Many times the word problem gets used by people who want to be spoon-fed ( this is not distro related ) Regardless, I personal look at most problems as a challenge !
But I also agree with " wanting a comfortable computer experience " etc etc. That's why I update PCLinuxOS for my wife's daily use no more than once a year.
Have a nice day
From: Tony Wolfs tony.wolfs@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:43:43 +0700
On 04/16/2014 12:25 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 12:56:04 Alexandre wrote:
Wonder why Debian is so appreciated still in 2014. On PCLinuxOS, 98% of the time all of your hardware is auto-configured.
Horses for courses, Alexandre. I administered PCLOS for a couple of years for my husband and granddaughter. There were good points, but I didn't particularly like it long term. Of course, I haven't actually run it for a while, so I may be out of date, but the same, I suspect, applies to your experience of Debian.
As I get older, the attraction of a quiet life grows greater. I now administer four boxen: 3 desktops and one laptop. All four run Debian 7 and TDE 3.5.13.2. All 4 users/owners are happy.
you got into trouble disparaging pclinux, will be interested to see how that debate plays out but I'm wholly with you about the 'quiet life', an operating system should be like a graceful host, after the introductions they get out of the way so the show can go on. Debian does that for me.
F.
I do not consider this a debate ! Someone has an opinion based on her/his personal experiences. I have a different opinion , based on my personal experiences.
The definition of the word << problem >> is worth a debate, not my difference of opinion with L or T.
Many times the word < problem > stands for : Lack of experience of .......something.
Many times the word problem gets used by people who want to be spoon-fed ( this is not distro related )
Regardless, I personal look at most problems as a challenge !
But I also agree with " wanting a comfortable computer experience " etc etc. That's why I update PCLinuxOS for my wife's daily use no more than once a year.
Have a nice day
-------------------------------------------------
That's true, this is not a debate. It's people describing their experiences with operating systems. I've tried several builds and found some were easier to use than others.
Right now I'm having both minor and major issues with my current OS, so rather than spending hours trying to make it work I'm trying a different one that so far has some features I want. Like older versions of apps and KDE3.
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 06:25:19 Felmon Davis wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 12:56:04 Alexandre wrote:
Wonder why Debian is so appreciated still in 2014. On PCLinuxOS, 98% of the time all of your hardware is auto-configured.
Horses for courses, Alexandre. I administered PCLOS for a couple of years for my husband and granddaughter. There were good points, but I didn't particularly like it long term. Of course, I haven't actually run it for a while, so I may be out of date, but the same, I suspect, applies to your experience of Debian.
As I get older, the attraction of a quiet life grows greater. I now administer four boxen: 3 desktops and one laptop. All four run Debian 7 and TDE 3.5.13.2. All 4 users/owners are happy.
you got into trouble disparaging pclinux,
???
Lisi
will be interested to see how that debate plays out but I'm wholly with you about the 'quiet life', an operating system should be like a graceful host, after the introductions they get out of the way so the show can go on. Debian does that for me.
F.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 06:25:19 Felmon Davis wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 12:56:04 Alexandre wrote:
Wonder why Debian is so appreciated still in 2014. On PCLinuxOS, 98% of the time all of your hardware is auto-configured.
Horses for courses, Alexandre. I administered PCLOS for a couple of years for my husband and granddaughter. There were good points, but I didn't particularly like it long term. Of course, I haven't actually run it for a while, so I may be out of date, but the same, I suspect, applies to your experience of Debian.
As I get older, the attraction of a quiet life grows greater. I now administer four boxen: 3 desktops and one laptop. All four run Debian 7 and TDE 3.5.13.2. All 4 users/owners are happy.
you got into trouble disparaging pclinux,
???
did I confuse you with someone else? my apologies.
F.
Hi all!
Please stay calm and use whatever you want. Linux is all about choice and there is absolutely no reason on earth to battle against each others.
-Alexandre
Hi, Alexandre,
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 13:50:21 Alexandre wrote:
Please stay calm and use whatever you want. Linux is all about choice and there is absolutely no reason on earth to battle against each others.
Well said. As I said to you, to each his own. Horses for courses. I admire tremendously the work that you do. I could not do it. I just don't always agree with you!!
And I have never said anything worse about PCLOS than that I personally don't particularly like it. Now if you think I have poor taste, that could even be a compliment. ;-)
Lisi
On 04/15/2014 06:56 PM, Alexandre wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
On 14 April 2014 00:05, Serghei Amelian serghei@thel.ro wrote:
On Monday 14 April 2014 00:33:16 Robert Peters wrote:
Hello, My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and
wireless
access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e. Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection. I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in /etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen. What to do? Robert
Check dmesg. Most probably you did not installed the firmwares
required by
your network cards.
Serghei
True, the network devices don't get loaded. I have copied iwlwifi ucode files to /lib/firmware and am trying to find how to get the kernel to use them on startup. Robert
Hi,
Have a good look at the first parts of the dmesg content. It will probably show you what is missing. These cards needs 2 things, which is easy to misunderstand how it works:
- A driver: The driver is needed to let the OS use the hardware.
- The microcode (sometimes named firmware): The hardware needs the
microcode to work, and it has no link to the operating system. The only thing that the OS do is to download the microcode in the hardware. Then, the hardware of the card will work.
Wonder why Debian is so appreciated still in 2014. On PCLinuxOS, 98% of the time all of your hardware is auto-configured. All of the required drivers and microcodes are provided as a default, and if Linux doesn't support at all your card, in the PCLinuxOS Control Center, you can graphically load your Windows driver to let it be used by ndiswrapper. In the Network Center, you can see the state of all your connections very easily. Using the Konsole in not even necessary. All of these also applies to Mageia too.While Debian is known to be reliable, it does next to nothing to simplify the life of their users. So, all I can recommend you is to try my PCLinuxOS non-official TDE remaster: http://trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/LiveCDs
The next release of my LiveCD is also coming in a few weeks, still based on stable 3.5.13.2.
Have a nice day! -Alexandre
I am 100% with you here, regarding Debian. I have tried it a few times. It worked well, but....I like my comfort zone. So, pee-see-el-oo-es it is And your remaster has been wonderfull, ...or better, still is. A hundred time thanks Tony
Is there a list somewhere of the apps that come with TDE-PCLinuxOS?
From: trin@telekon.org To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:36:29 -0300 Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0
Is there a list somewhere of the apps that come with TDE-PCLinuxOS?
Hi,
All the major Linux apps are pre-installed: TDE Firefox Gimp Synaptic Multimedia codecs VLC media player LibreOffice VirtualBox Q7Z QCad
For the rest, all the apps you may need are available through Synapic.
Have a nice day! -Alexandre
On 04/15/2014 07:58 PM, Alexandre wrote:
From: trin@telekon.org To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:36:29 -0300 Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0
Is there a list somewhere of the apps that come with TDE-PCLinuxOS?
Hi,
All the major Linux apps are pre-installed: TDE Firefox Gimp Synaptic Multimedia codecs VLC media player LibreOffice VirtualBox Q7Z QCad
For the rest, all the apps you may need are available through Synapic.
Have a nice day! -Alexandre
Just a word of warning ! As I have << no idea what you may want to install >>, it is possible that you get a message to update pclinuxos ( Not update trinity ) If you do so, you are in for a 750 package update, because this remaster is nearing one year !
Do you agree, Alexandre ? ?
Tony
Just a word of warning ! As I have << no idea what you may want to install >>, it is possible that you get a message to update pclinuxos ( Not update trinity )If you do so, you are in for a 750 package update, because this remaster is nearing one year !
Do you agree, Alexandre ? ?
Tony
Hi,
You can go ahead and install all the updates without much problems, but yes, it can mean a lot of packages to update.The new release, which is coming soon, will be all pre-updated.
-Alexandre
Thanx, guys!
--- Original Message --- From: Alexandre ac586133@hotmail.com To: Trinity trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: RE: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014
Just a word of warning !
As I have << no idea what you may want to install >>, it is possible that you get a message to update pclinuxos (not update trinity) If you do so, you are in for a 750 package update, because this remaster is nearing one year!
Do you agree, Alexandre??
You can go ahead and install all the updates without much problems, but yes, it can mean a lot of packages to update. The new release, which is coming soon, will be all pre-updated.
-Alexandre
On 04/15/2014 09:01 PM, Tini wrote:
Thanx, guys!
--- Original Message --- From: Alexandre ac586133@hotmail.com To: Trinity trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: RE: [trinity-users] Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014
Just a word of warning !
As I have << no idea what you may want to install >>, it is possible that you get a message to update pclinuxos (not update trinity) If you do so, you are in for a 750 package update, because this remaster is nearing one year!
Do you agree, Alexandre??
You can go ahead and install all the updates without much problems, but yes, it can mean a lot of packages to update. The new release, which is coming soon, will be all pre-updated.
-Alexandre
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I updated last month 2 pclos-trinity installes and had zero problems. Last Monday I did another one with zero problems
Have fun
If your machine needs iwlwifi (as does my older Lenovo), for Debian:
Make sure "nonfree" is in your sources.list apt-get update apt-get install iwlwifi
Simple as that. Ceni or wicd can help identify and set up your interface(s) but any required non-free firmware must first be installed. Some newer devices might need a newer kernel.
Debian does not ship non-free by default (iwlwifi). That does not necessarily mean it is difficult to install, if needed. https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
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