I finally got sound working after upgrading to openSUSE Leap 15.6 (Yay), but when I start Kaffeine to listen to some music, it says it can't load XineParts (unYay). I've attached the message that Kaffeine displays. It's not too helpful. In openSUSE Leap 15.6, sound is now controlled by PipeWire instead of PulseAudio. Could this have anything to do with my issue?
Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.6 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.2 tde-config: 1.0
On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:17:29 -0500 J Leslie Turriff via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
I finally got sound working after upgrading to openSUSE Leap 15.6 (Yay), but when I start Kaffeine to listen to some music, it says it can't load XineParts (unYay). I've attached the message that Kaffeine displays. It's not too helpful. In openSUSE Leap 15.6, sound is now controlled by PipeWire instead of PulseAudio. Could this have anything to do with my issue?
Pipewire is supposed to be backward-compatible with Pulse if you have all the right bits running, but I understand there are edge cases.
However, the questions suggested by the Department of the Bleedin' Obvious are: is xine installed? Are all of the TDE multimedia packages installed (just in case this is an ioslave issue)? What is aRts set to use for output, assuming it's installed?
E. Liddell
said E. Liddell via tde-users: | On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:17:29 -0500 | | J Leslie Turriff via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote: | > I finally got sound working after upgrading to openSUSE Leap 15.6 | > (Yay), but when I start Kaffeine to listen to some music, it says it | > can't load XineParts (unYay). I've attached the message that Kaffeine | > displays. It's not too helpful. | > In openSUSE Leap 15.6, sound is now controlled by PipeWire instead of | > PulseAudio. Could this have anything to do with my issue? | | Pipewire is supposed to be backward-compatible with Pulse if you have | all the right bits running, but I understand there are edge cases. | | However, the questions suggested by the Department of the Bleedin' | Obvious are: is xine installed? Are all of the TDE multimedia packages | installed (just in case this is an ioslave issue)? What is aRts set to | use for output, assuming it's installed?
Pipewire kinda sucks. I spent most of a day picking it out of Bookworm and replacing it with Pulse so I could get any sound at all from Kaffeine on the RPi5s. It is to audio what Wayland is to whatever Wayland is supposed to be. Even where it is "working," as on my Trixie desktop, there is no volume control available, and the default volume is very, very low. You can download "pwvucontrol," available only as a flatpak. I do not know if it works.
On Tuesday 22 October 2024 16:20:29 E. Liddell via tde-users wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:17:29 -0500
J Leslie Turriff via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
I finally got sound working after upgrading to openSUSE Leap 15.6 (Yay), but when I start Kaffeine to listen to some music, it says it can't load XineParts (unYay). I've attached the message that Kaffeine displays. It's not too helpful. In openSUSE Leap 15.6, sound is now controlled by PipeWire instead of PulseAudio. Could this have anything to do with my issue?
Pipewire is supposed to be backward-compatible with Pulse if you have all the right bits running, but I understand there are edge cases.
However, the questions suggested by the Department of the Bleedin' Obvious are: is xine installed? Are all of the TDE multimedia packages installed (just in case this is an ioslave issue)? What is aRts set to use for output, assuming it's installed?
E. Liddell
I have attached zypper se -s xine output.
Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.5 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.2 tde-config: 1.0
said J Leslie Turriff via tde-users: | On Tuesday 22 October 2024 16:20:29 E. Liddell via tde-users wrote: | > On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:17:29 -0500 | > | > J Leslie Turriff via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote: | > > I finally got sound working after upgrading to openSUSE Leap 15.6 | > > (Yay), but when I start Kaffeine to listen to some music, it says it | > > can't load XineParts (unYay). I've attached the message that | > > Kaffeine displays. It's not too helpful. | > > In openSUSE Leap 15.6, sound is now controlled by PipeWire instead | > > of PulseAudio. Could this have anything to do with my issue? | > | > Pipewire is supposed to be backward-compatible with Pulse if you have | > all the right bits running, but I understand there are edge cases. | > | > However, the questions suggested by the Department of the Bleedin' | > Obvious are: is xine installed? Are all of the TDE multimedia | > packages installed (just in case this is an ioslave issue)? What is | > aRts set to use for output, assuming it's installed? | > | > E. Liddell | | I have attached zypper se -s xine output.
fwiw, i just nuked pipewire and installed pulse stuff and now everything works on my desktop machine running trixie.
On Wednesday 23 October 2024 20:35:01 dep via tde-users wrote:
said J Leslie Turriff via tde-users: | On Tuesday 22 October 2024 16:20:29 E. Liddell via tde-users wrote: | > On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:17:29 -0500 | > | > J Leslie Turriff via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote: | > > I finally got sound working after upgrading to openSUSE Leap 15.6 | > > (Yay), but when I start Kaffeine to listen to some music, it says it | > > can't load XineParts (unYay). I've attached the message that | > > Kaffeine displays. It's not too helpful. | > > In openSUSE Leap 15.6, sound is now controlled by PipeWire instead | > > of PulseAudio. Could this have anything to do with my issue? | > | > Pipewire is supposed to be backward-compatible with Pulse if you have | > all the right bits running, but I understand there are edge cases. | > | > However, the questions suggested by the Department of the Bleedin' | > Obvious are: is xine installed? Are all of the TDE multimedia | > packages installed (just in case this is an ioslave issue)? What is | > aRts set to use for output, assuming it's installed? | > | > E. Liddell | | I have attached zypper se -s xine output.
fwiw, i just nuked pipewire and installed pulse stuff and now everything works on my desktop machine running trixie.
Yeah. Through three Leap versions I struggled to get PulseAudio to work, and once I finally did they wished Pipewire on me. Supposedly Pipewire is necessary to get audio out of Flatpaks etc. I'm planning to install Windoze in a VM for gaming, and I don't know if that will require Pipewire as well. Anyone know?
Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.5 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.2 tde-config: 1.0
said J Leslie Turriff via tde-users:
| Yeah. Through three Leap versions I struggled to get PulseAudio to | work, and once I finally did they wished Pipewire on me. Supposedly | Pipewire is necessary to get audio out of Flatpaks etc. I'm planning to | install Windoze in a VM for gaming, and I don't know if that will | require Pipewire as well. Anyone know?
No idea if it is useful, but I've had VirtualBox running XP for more than a decade and Win10 for about five years, and everything works -- I just checked -- despite numerous OS upgrades. If that's what you're using, it seems that it's not an issue. Can't speak for any of the other VMs.
(One tragically hilarious VM thing: I have a VirtualBox VM running DOS 6.22. problem is, there's no way to get software onto it. So I have to use Dosbox. Not doing it for games but for Word for DOS, Textra, and XyWrite. So I can concentrate on the words, not be distracted by the decorations. Writing tends to be text-based.)
On Thursday 24 October 2024 14:48:28 dep via tde-users wrote:
said J Leslie Turriff via tde-users: | Yeah. Through three Leap versions I struggled to get PulseAudio to | work, and once I finally did they wished Pipewire on me. Supposedly | Pipewire is necessary to get audio out of Flatpaks etc. I'm planning to | install Windoze in a VM for gaming, and I don't know if that will | require Pipewire as well. Anyone know?
No idea if it is useful, but I've had VirtualBox running XP for more than a decade and Win10 for about five years, and everything works -- I just checked -- despite numerous OS upgrades. If that's what you're using, it seems that it's not an issue. Can't speak for any of the other VMs.
(One tragically hilarious VM thing: I have a VirtualBox VM running DOS 6.22. problem is, there's no way to get software onto it. So I have to use Dosbox. Not doing it for games but for Word for DOS, Textra, and XyWrite. So I can concentrate on the words, not be distracted by the decorations. Writing tends to be text-based.)
And sound comes out of the VM to your speakers/earphones?
Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.5 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.2 tde-config: 1.0
On 10/25/24 00:33, J Leslie Turriff via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On Thursday 24 October 2024 14:48:28 dep via tde-users wrote:
said J Leslie Turriff via tde-users: | Yeah. Through three Leap versions I struggled to get PulseAudio to | work, and once I finally did they wished Pipewire on me. Supposedly | Pipewire is necessary to get audio out of Flatpaks etc. I'm planning to | install Windoze in a VM for gaming, and I don't know if that will | require Pipewire as well. Anyone know?
No idea if it is useful, but I've had VirtualBox running XP for more than a decade and Win10 for about five years, and everything works -- I just checked -- despite numerous OS upgrades. If that's what you're using, it seems that it's not an issue. Can't speak for any of the other VMs.
(One tragically hilarious VM thing: I have a VirtualBox VM running DOS 6.22. problem is, there's no way to get software onto it. So I have to use Dosbox. Not doing it for games but for Word for DOS, Textra, and XyWrite. So I can concentrate on the words, not be distracted by the decorations. Writing tends to be text-based.)
And sound comes out of the VM to your speakers/earphones?
Yeppers, no prob. Doesn't seem to care what the host computer is up to. So far, here, anyway.
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