Yet another computer in the house having died, I have temporarily set my husband up using my netbook with a monitor, keyboard and mouse, running Squeeze with Trinity 3.10.13.1.
A single screen is set up that displays on both monitors the same.
This is unusable on the monitor.
I can find no way of setting two different settings. The screen number control is greyed out.
So I use KContriol to set up a better resolution and sync rate, which necessarily sets itself up on both. Except that the netbook screen goes on strike and goes blank.
This suits me fine! But, although I have set this up in KControl, every time my husband reboots, I have to set the monitor up for him again.
He is forgetting even those computer skills that I had managed to teach him. I haven't a hope of teaching him how to use KControl for himself.
Help! When I have finished the course I am doing, I shall set him up properly. But that is not until December. I need to limp him through now.
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
Thanks, Lisi
Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
I would suggest looking at the command-line tool xrandr and create a script which calls that with the right settings. Just ask in case you cannot figure it out. I can also send some examples.
Julius
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:00:37 Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
I would suggest looking at the command-line tool xrandr and create a script which calls that with the right settings. Just ask in case you cannot figure it out. I can also send some examples.
Thanks, Julius. That is a very generous offer.
I have started looking at the man entry for xrandr, and have decided that I shall perhaps understand better after some sleep. I need to look up the theory behind monitors, I think!! Once I get to look at words like gamma, when it doesn't mean the third letter of the Greek alphabet, at this time of night my eyes glaze over .....
Examples would be wonderful. :-)
Lisi
On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select "Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on a laptop via S-Video cable.
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select "Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on a laptop via S-Video cable.
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that there was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the suggestion.
Lisi
On Monday 05 of November 2012 00:42:44 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select "Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on a laptop via S-Video cable.
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that there was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the suggestion.
Lisi
KRandR you probably have already been installed:
$ dpkg -S $(which krandrtray) kcontrol-trinity: /opt/trinity/bin/krandrtray
Slavek --
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select "Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on a laptop via S-Video cable.
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that there was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the suggestion.
Lisi
krandrtray is most definitely available in all versions of TDE!
Also, you may want to look into the Monitor and Display module of KControl; this module allows you to set up a systemwide multi-monitor configuration that applies automatically on startup.
Tim
On Monday 05 November 2012 00:18:35 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select "Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on a laptop via S-Video cable.
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that there was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the suggestion.
Lisi
krandrtray is most definitely available in all versions of TDE!
Also, you may want to look into the Monitor and Display module of KControl; this module allows you to set up a systemwide multi-monitor configuration that applies automatically on startup.
Thanks, Tim. That is what I thought, and what I have been trying without success to do. :-( Settings for screen is greyed out, and the settings I input disappear when I reboot.
Lisi
On Monday 05 November 2012 00:18:35 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click
on
the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or
select
"Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies
on
a laptop via S-Video cable.
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that there was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the suggestion.
Lisi
krandrtray is most definitely available in all versions of TDE!
Also, you may want to look into the Monitor and Display module of KControl; this module allows you to set up a systemwide multi-monitor configuration that applies automatically on startup.
Thanks, Tim. That is what I thought, and what I have been trying without success to do. :-( Settings for screen is greyed out, and the settings I input disappear when I reboot.
Lisi
Be aware that there are two modules with a similar name; one has a checkbox on the first tab and requires root privileges; this is the one you want to use. The other does not and is an old, broken Ubuntu holdover.
Tim
On Monday 05 November 2012 17:09:54 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Be aware that there are two modules with a similar name; one has a checkbox on the first tab and requires root privileges; this is the one you want to use. The other does not and is an old, broken Ubuntu holdover.
Thanks, Timothy. :-)
Worked a treat. I hadn't realised that there were two, as you surmised.
Lisi
An article here, I thought it might interest TDE users :
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
It's mostly about Gnome3 but has plenty to say about "mainstream" desktops trends generally...
David
An article here, I thought it might interest TDE users :
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
It's mostly about Gnome3 but has plenty to say about "mainstream" desktops trends generally...
David
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After reading that, I have only one thing to say: Long life to TDE! Pascal
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 18:04:55 Pascal Viandier wrote:
An article here, I thought it might interest TDE users :
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
It's mostly about Gnome3 but has plenty to say about "mainstream" desktops trends generally...
David
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After reading that, I have only one thing to say: Long life to TDE!
Shades of KDE4. I got attacked for daring not to like KDE4. I was bullied to say why I didn't like it, then told that my reasons were rubbish and I had no right to be a "KDE4 refuser". So Gnome 3 is going the same way. Aren't we lucky?
Thanks all you developers. You are helping to keep some of us sane. Long life to all of you.
Lisi
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote: (...)
Shades of KDE4. I got attacked for daring not to like KDE4. I was bullied to say why I didn't like it, then told that my reasons were rubbish and I had no right to be a "KDE4 refuser". So Gnome 3 is going the same way. Aren't we lucky?
Looking for information about Windows 8 acceptance/refusal I found out those that don't like "Metro" get the same treatment.... Seems "forward is the way to go even if it's not good for you" is a very general rule.
Some dream of Linux becoming a "popular" OS - maybe it actually already has. And maybe I'd prefer it remains a Geek OS....
Thierry
Le mardi 13 novembre 2012, Thierry de Coulon a écrit :
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote: (...)
Shades of KDE4. I got attacked for daring not to like KDE4. I was bullied to say why I didn't like it, then told that my reasons were rubbish and I had no right to be a "KDE4 refuser". So Gnome 3 is going the same way. Aren't we lucky?
Looking for information about Windows 8 acceptance/refusal I found out those that don't like "Metro" get the same treatment.... Seems "forward is the way to go even if it's not good for you" is a very general rule.
Some dream of Linux becoming a "popular" OS - maybe it actually already has. And maybe I'd prefer it remains a Geek OS....
-10 :-/
<troll> From 1996 to 2005, I bought SuSE Linux and Open Suse Novell, considering thus participate in the war against WindOverDose affort. I was rich at the time! I have bought / paid for the wind?
The Geek want to improve their system. Anything inconsistent with the "popular" user, the "grand public"?
The developers teams must leave the projects private despots. They are idiots and sufficient, and do not know they are wrong because they believe themselves incapable of error. They proclaim themselves experts in "windows management", and as such decide for others, especially for "ordinary" users, and possibly, for "ordinary" (-: Trinity team) developers. There was one who spoke in these lists. In my opinion, KDE team committed suicide and killed Suse with him.
<troll> At the time Lisa + Macinsosh were models for Microsoft, everything was getting better [1985 .. 1995]. Now, Microsoft "Vista" (and following) is the model for Linux: how, starting from the mediocrity, do not get mediocrity? </troll> </troll>
Thierry
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