Debian Wheezy, amd64, TDE 3.5.13.
Trying to print a construction drawing, pdf format in kpdf. I use 11x17 paper which is, depending on orientation, either ledger or tabloid.
The image printed is 8.5x11, letter size. The image is not scaled to 11x17.
I use cups 1.5.3 + depends and recommends. hpcups 3.12.6 (color, 2-sided printing) driver. HP Officejet Pro 8600
Tried TDE R14 with the same results.
Evince prints fine,
Can anyone verify?
The image printed is 8.5x11, letter size. The image is not scaled to 11x17.
Hi Greg, I guess this may be related to bug 1 (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1). Could you add some detais as a comment in that bug, if possible attached a sample file for test printing as well.
Michele
thanks for the reply..will do the bug thing.
On Tuesday 24 June 2014 18:44:55 you wrote:
The image printed is 8.5x11, letter size. The image is not scaled to 11x17.
Hi Greg, I guess this may be related to bug 1 (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1). Could you add some detais as a comment in that bug, if possible attached a sample file for test printing as well.
Michele
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Exe GNU/Linux (Debian Wheezy live ISO with TDE) is now available with a 486 kernel version and TDE R14. TDE is a good choice for older hardware with non-PAE processor.
The 686 version with R14 continues with periodic updates.
Package lists (available separately) are similar to previous versions. The ISO remains <700MB with GPL software only.
The R14 images will not be so well tested as the 3.5.13 versions. R14 is still under development and soon outdated. Therefore periodic dist-upgrade is necessary post-installation (current TDE repo is preconfigured in the ISO)
http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/wheezy/tde-r14/
David
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:19:03 +0100 From: davidahare@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: [trinity-users] Exe GNU/Linux: R14 versions: 486 and 686
Exe GNU/Linux (Debian Wheezy live ISO with TDE) is now available with a 486 kernel version and TDE R14. TDE is a good choice for older hardware with non-PAE processor.
The 686 version with R14 continues with periodic updates.
Package lists (available separately) are similar to previous versions. The ISO remains <700MB with GPL software only.
The R14 images will not be so well tested as the 3.5.13 versions. R14 is still under development and soon outdated. Therefore periodic dist-upgrade is necessary post-installation (current TDE repo is preconfigured in the ISO)
http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/wheezy/tde-r14/
David
Hi,
I think I'll try your distro on my Sony VAIO PictureBook C1VN. This crap has a 600mhz Transmeta Crusoe 5600, developping approximately 16mhz of equivalent Intel CPU power :) And it has 128mb of RAM, not really upgradeable, killing every bit of possible performance... The interesting point is that this Transmeta CPU is in fact a 586 virtual machine, so it is non-PAE. Debian was too heavy for it and I want to see your distro running on my C1VN.
-Alexandre
Hi,
I think I'll try your distro on my Sony VAIO PictureBook C1VN. This crap has a 600mhz Transmeta Crusoe 5600, developping approximately 16mhz of equivalent Intel CPU power :) And it has 128mb of RAM, not really upgradeable, killing every bit of possible performance... The interesting point is that this Transmeta CPU is in fact a 586 virtual machine, so it is non-PAE. Debian was too heavy for it and I want to see your distro running on my C1VN.
-Alexandre
128 ram may not be enough for a useable TDE. If you got that far, the ExeGNU installer might puke. 256 is probably the useable minimum.. but do try it and let us know!
Debian was too heavy for it
Depends what DE you chose and perhaps you needed to use the optional text-based installer. ExeGNU is Debian Wheezy-based.
Another possibility is antiX (also Debian-based) which has 486 kernel versions and claims to run on 128 ram.
David
On Wednesday 02 July 2014 01:30:28 you wrote:
Hi,
I think I'll try your distro on my Sony VAIO PictureBook C1VN. This crap has a 600mhz Transmeta Crusoe 5600, developping approximately 16mhz of equivalent Intel CPU power :) And it has 128mb of RAM, not really upgradeable, killing every bit of possible performance... The interesting point is that this Transmeta CPU is in fact a 586 virtual machine, so it is non-PAE. Debian was too heavy for it and I want to see your distro running on my C1VN.
-Alexandre
128 ram may not be enough for a useable TDE. If you got that far, the ExeGNU installer might puke. 256 is probably the useable minimum.. but do try it and let us know!
Debian was too heavy for it
Depends what DE you chose and perhaps you needed to use the optional text-based installer. ExeGNU is Debian Wheezy-based.
Another possibility is antiX (also Debian-based) which has 486 kernel versions and claims to run on 128 ram.
David
+1 on antiX, the latest version has a xfce DE, the previous..still available has Icewm..better for low mem useage.
As David pointedd out, it is based on Debian with a 486 kernel. It is usefull, imho, to b able to install a base system, no X, and pick your DE or WM based on hardware. Distro's are convienient for providing this for you but the ability to do it yourself illustrates ..kernel+gnu tool chain +X, WM or DE asneeded.
I do prefer Debian for a base for my installs, I add TDE , do not mix other DE or WM in.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:19 AM, David Hare davidahare@gmail.com wrote:
Exe GNU/Linux (Debian Wheezy live ISO with TDE) is now available with a 486 kernel version and TDE R14. TDE is a good choice for older hardware with non-PAE processor.
But will it run on a 486??? *smile*
Keep in mind that all Pentium Pro and up(except for the 400Mhz Pentium M) support PAE. Only the K6, original Pentium & similar chips don't support PAE.
I've always wondered if enabling PAE helped or was faster/slower. I had a Thinkpad A22p with a P3/1Ghz that seemed to have issues with the PAE kernel(IIRC). Most PAE kernels really only add support for NX/XD bit so enabling it on a P3 with less than 4GB RAM seemed pointless. I do have a dual P3/1.4 system here with 6GB RAM, but it collects dust......
But will it run on a 486??? *smile*
Keep in mind that all Pentium Pro and up(except for the 400Mhz Pentium M) support PAE. Only the K6, original Pentium & similar chips don't support PAE.
Hi,
Just a little feedback from my tests! First of all, Transmeta Crusoe too doesn't support PAE too, but it is pretty rare.
I didn't had the time to install EXE GNU/Linux on my Sony VAIO C1VN (128mb RAM), but I did try it in VirtualBox. It works very well and it seems to me to be a very well crafted system. I prefer it tremendously, compared to plain, vanilla Debian.
But, concerning the memory usage, 128mb is way too low and it would not run comfortably on that. I think I'll have to stick with IceWM, which is not that bad too.
Thank you very much for your contribution to the TDE project! -Alexandre
On 1 July 2014 03:19, David Hare davidahare@gmail.com wrote:
Exe GNU/Linux (Debian Wheezy live ISO with TDE) is now available with a 486 kernel version and TDE R14. TDE is a good choice for older hardware with non-PAE processor.
Hi, I installed in a testing partition in a new ThinkPad and in an older Toshiba. Looks good. But in both machines Wicd shows no wireless networks even though they exist. Robert
I have that no wireless networks problem because I'm using only an ethernet-to-wifi adapter instead of a conventional USB wifi adapter. I normally use either or both. I'm guessing it's got something to do with Wicd or modules which do or do not support certain chipset features.
On 7/7/14, Robert Peters robertpeters9@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 July 2014 03:19, David Hare davidahare@gmail.com wrote:
Exe GNU/Linux (Debian Wheezy live ISO with TDE) is now available with a 486 kernel version and TDE R14. TDE is a good choice for older hardware with non-PAE processor.
Hi, I installed in a testing partition in a new ThinkPad and in an older Toshiba. Looks good. But in both machines Wicd shows no wireless networks even though they exist. Robert
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But in both machines Wicd shows no wireless networks even though they exist.
You probably need to check WIcd configuration, in particular the name of the wifi card to use. Could be wlan0 instead of eth1 or something like this. I use Wicd on my TDE machine, no problem whatsoever, once configured correctly.
Cheers Michele
On 08/07/14 10:17, Michele Calgaro wrote:
But in both machines Wicd shows no wireless networks even though they exist.
You probably need to check WIcd configuration, in particular the name of the wifi card to use. Could be wlan0 instead of eth1 or something like this. I use Wicd on my TDE machine, no problem whatsoever, once configured correctly.
Cheers Michele
ExeGNU has wicd preconfigured for wlan0 because that's most common.. but it might not be. Also preinstalled is "ceni" which should display the right interface and help configure it. You might also need to get non-free firmware.. https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
David
Thanks to all who replied to my post. Unfortunately, any version of TDE in my new laptop has in many places been unable to make an online connection. It may be due to lack of drivers or firmware. So for now I'm running Linux Mint (Debian Mate) with some Trinity apps and will have a go at this some time later. BTW, "Mate" refers to the Yerba Maté drink, not the British "matey".
Robert
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
Thanks to all who replied to my post. Unfortunately, any version of TDE in my new laptop has in many places been unable to make an online connection. It may be due to lack of drivers or firmware.
so the question becomes what firmware do you need. you can figure out which driver Mate is using or just look for the specs for the laptop and find the firmware.
people here can help. I don't recall but did you provide the model and brand of laptop?
the fact it is working in Mate means it will work in Trinity.
I've had to fool around with Broadcom chipsets to get wifi working on a Thinkpad I have. a bit of a hassle and then it's done.
F.
So for now I'm running Linux Mint (Debian Mate) with some Trinity apps and will have a go at this some time later. BTW, "Mate" refers to the Yerba Maté drink, not the British "matey".
Robert
Try this:
dmesg | grep -i firm
and post the output.
Am Sonntag, 13. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
Thanks to all who replied to my post. Unfortunately, any version of TDE in my new laptop has in many places been unable to make an online connection. It may be due to lack of drivers or firmware.
so the question becomes what firmware do you need. you can figure out which driver Mate is using or just look for the specs for the laptop and find the firmware.
people here can help. I don't recall but did you provide the model and brand of laptop?
the fact it is working in Mate means it will work in Trinity.
I've had to fool around with Broadcom chipsets to get wifi working on a Thinkpad I have. a bit of a hassle and then it's done.
F.
So for now I'm running Linux Mint (Debian Mate) with some Trinity apps and will have a go at this some time later. BTW, "Mate" refers to the Yerba Maté drink, not the British "matey".
Robert
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Try this:
dmesg | grep -i firm
and post the output.
that doesn't yield anything useful on my system and the firmware is functioning!
I thought
lspci |grep -i control
is better as it yields the chipset in my case:
05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
I don't have my other linux machine running here but as I said, it coughs up Broadcom.
then search for the firmware for your adapter.
is my approach fundamentally mistaken?
f.
Am Sonntag, 13. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
Thanks to all who replied to my post. Unfortunately, any version of TDE in my new laptop has in many places been unable to make an online connection. It may be due to lack of drivers or firmware.
so the question becomes what firmware do you need. you can figure out which driver Mate is using or just look for the specs for the laptop and find the firmware.
people here can help. I don't recall but did you provide the model and brand of laptop?
the fact it is working in Mate means it will work in Trinity.
I've had to fool around with Broadcom chipsets to get wifi working on a Thinkpad I have. a bit of a hassle and then it's done.
F.
So for now I'm running Linux Mint (Debian Mate) with some Trinity apps and will have a go at this some time later. BTW, "Mate" refers to the Yerba Maté drink, not the British "matey".
Robert
Am Montag, 14. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Try this:
dmesg | grep -i firm
and post the output.
that doesn't yield anything useful on my system and the firmware is functioning!
I thought
lspci |grep -i control
is better as it yields the chipset in my case:
05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
I don't have my other linux machine running here but as I said, it coughs up Broadcom.
then search for the firmware for your adapter.
is my approach fundamentally mistaken?
f.
If it's a firmware problem then you could simply try the brute-force way and copy /lib/firmware from Mate to Exe GNU. If you're lucky, it'll work. Most likely it won't work and you need to try a new kernel from backports or testing.
Nik
Am Sonntag, 13. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
Thanks to all who replied to my post. Unfortunately, any version of TDE in my new laptop has in many places been unable to make an online connection. It may be due to lack of drivers or firmware.
so the question becomes what firmware do you need. you can figure out which driver Mate is using or just look for the specs for the laptop and find the firmware.
people here can help. I don't recall but did you provide the model and brand of laptop?
the fact it is working in Mate means it will work in Trinity.
I've had to fool around with Broadcom chipsets to get wifi working on a Thinkpad I have. a bit of a hassle and then it's done.
F.
So for now I'm running Linux Mint (Debian Mate) with some Trinity apps and will have a go at this some time later. BTW, "Mate" refers to the Yerba Maté drink, not the British "matey".
Robert
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Montag, 14. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Try this:
dmesg | grep -i firm
and post the output.
that doesn't yield anything useful on my system and the firmware is functioning!
I thought
lspci |grep -i control
is better as it yields the chipset in my case:
05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
I don't have my other linux machine running here but as I said, it coughs up Broadcom.
then search for the firmware for your adapter.
is my approach fundamentally mistaken?
f.
If it's a firmware problem then you could simply try the brute-force way and copy /lib/firmware from Mate to Exe GNU. If you're lucky, it'll work. Most likely it won't work and you need to try a new kernel from backports or testing.
ah, yes, I forgot I had to fool around with the kernel too, especially on the at-the-time brand-new Thinkpad.
wonder what kernel Robert's Mate is running.
F.
Nik
Am Sonntag, 13. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
Thanks to all who replied to my post. Unfortunately, any version of TDE in my new laptop has in many places been unable to make an online connection. It may be due to lack of drivers or firmware.
so the question becomes what firmware do you need. you can figure out which driver Mate is using or just look for the specs for the laptop and find the firmware.
people here can help. I don't recall but did you provide the model and brand of laptop?
the fact it is working in Mate means it will work in Trinity.
I've had to fool around with Broadcom chipsets to get wifi working on a Thinkpad I have. a bit of a hassle and then it's done.
F.
So for now I'm running Linux Mint (Debian Mate) with some Trinity apps and will have a go at this some time later. BTW, "Mate" refers to the Yerba Maté drink, not the British "matey".
Robert
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Montag, 14. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Try this:
dmesg | grep -i firm
and post the output.
that doesn't yield anything useful on my system and the firmware is functioning!
I thought
lspci |grep -i control
is better as it yields the chipset in my case:
05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
I don't have my other linux machine running here but as I said, it coughs up Broadcom.
then search for the firmware for your adapter.
is my approach fundamentally mistaken?
f.
If it's a firmware problem then you could simply try the brute-force way and copy /lib/firmware from Mate to Exe GNU. If you're lucky, it'll work. Most likely it won't work and you need to try a new kernel from backports or testing.
and of course you are right that brute force is worth try. has never worked for me however.
F.
Nik
Am Sonntag, 13. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
Thanks to all who replied to my post. Unfortunately, any version of TDE in my new laptop has in many places been unable to make an online connection. It may be due to lack of drivers or firmware.
so the question becomes what firmware do you need. you can figure out which driver Mate is using or just look for the specs for the laptop and find the firmware.
people here can help. I don't recall but did you provide the model and brand of laptop?
the fact it is working in Mate means it will work in Trinity.
I've had to fool around with Broadcom chipsets to get wifi working on a Thinkpad I have. a bit of a hassle and then it's done.
F.
So for now I'm running Linux Mint (Debian Mate) with some Trinity apps and will have a go at this some time later. BTW, "Mate" refers to the Yerba Maté drink, not the British "matey".
Robert
By default Linux Mint (even the LMDE) enables all available firmware. If it is a firmware issue I seriously doubt the issue is with Trinity and just because it works with MATE doesn't mean it would work with MATE on say normal Debian. I don't particularly like WICD anyway and much prefer Network Manager. I do not know if Network Manager KDE witll work with Trinity though.
On 14 July 2014 09:51, Felmon Davis davisf@union.edu wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Montag, 14. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Try this:
dmesg | grep -i firm
and post the output.
that doesn't yield anything useful on my system and the firmware is functioning!
I thought
lspci |grep -i control
is better as it yields the chipset in my case:
05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
I don't have my other linux machine running here but as I said, it coughs up Broadcom.
then search for the firmware for your adapter.
is my approach fundamentally mistaken?
f.
If it's a firmware problem then you could simply try the brute-force way and copy /lib/firmware from Mate to Exe GNU. If you're lucky, it'll work. Most likely it won't work and you need to try a new kernel from backports or testing.
and of course you are right that brute force is worth try. has never worked for me however.
F.
Nik
Am Sonntag, 13. Juli 2014 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
Thanks to all who replied to my post.
Unfortunately, any version of TDE in my new laptop has in many places been unable to make an online connection. It may be due to lack of drivers or firmware.
so the question becomes what firmware do you need. you can figure out which driver Mate is using or just look for the specs for the laptop and find the firmware.
people here can help. I don't recall but did you provide the model and brand of laptop?
the fact it is working in Mate means it will work in Trinity.
I've had to fool around with Broadcom chipsets to get wifi working on a Thinkpad I have. a bit of a hassle and then it's done.
F.
So for now I'm running Linux Mint (Debian Mate)
with some Trinity apps and will have a go at this some time later. BTW, "Mate" refers to the Yerba Maté drink, not the British "matey".
Robert
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On 07/13/2014 08:05 PM, Michael . wrote:
I don't particularly like WICD anyway and much prefer Network Manager. I do not know if Network Manager KDE witll work with Trinity though.
Isn't this on R14? Why is wicd being used instead of network-manager-tde?
I am not aware of any network-manager-tde as I have not tried R14 yet
On 15 July 2014 03:23, Dan Youngquist dan@homestead-products.com wrote:
On 07/13/2014 08:05 PM, Michael . wrote:
I don't particularly like WICD anyway and much prefer Network Manager. I do not know if Network Manager KDE witll work with Trinity though.
Isn't this on R14? Why is wicd being used instead of network-manager-tde?
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On 07/13/2014 08:05 PM, Michael . wrote:
I don't particularly like WICD anyway and much prefer Network Manager. I do not know if Network Manager KDE witll work with Trinity though.
Isn't this on R14? Why is wicd being used instead of network-manager-tde?
Assuming that means why does ExeGNU "live" use wicd, reasons are wicd is DE-independent (ExeGNU also has a minimal XFCE), requires relatively few dependencies and actually works. Any required reconfiguration to suit an interface other than wlan0 should be quite minor. In an installation, you use what you choose.
RE firmware: ExeGNU is intended to support the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG) https://www.debian.org/social_contract .. If you need non-free firmware you must add it yourself, as documented by https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
Some other distros may have a less strict attitude towards closed-source (or even have corporate partnerships) and include such firmware.
Sorry for any inconveniece!
David
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