[sorry if the below has messed-up formatting; I sent it a few days ago, but apparently the list software rejected it — without even so much as a bounce :-( — b/c I was not yet a subscriber to the list]

Hello folks.

First off: I _love_ TDE for keeping KDE 3.x alive. ;-)

Recently, the alt-tab behavior on one of my GNU/Linux boxes has been driving me nuts: when I press alt-tab, the switcher only shows other windows that are on the *_same screen_* as the one that was active/current/front at the time I pressed alt-tab. With windows spread across two screens, this is _very_ annoying. I tried to find a way to configure this, but I did not find one. [EDIT: please read all the way to the bottom of this e-mail for additional details that I found while writing this email but _way_ after writing _this_ paragraph up to the "EDIT" marker.]

Current setup on the machine in question: Debian 7.11, TDE 3.5.13.2, one video card installed, nVidia PCI-Express video card with 4 heads possible [only 2 in use], GPU seems to be an "NVS 510", nVidia proprietary driver 450.57; two monitors, both "technically" 1600x1200 ["technically" b/c one of them is "rotated", so it "looks like" 1200x1600], only 1 desktop, and Xinerama & RandR are both off according to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log". The motherboard has a VGA port on it, but I must have disabled the relevant on-board chip in the BIOS settings [or did the BIOS disable that chip by itself based on the fact that I have a video card installed and selected as "primary"?] since it`s not showing up in "lspci"`s output.

From the "NVIDIA X Server Settings" program:

* Server Version Number: 11.0 * Server Vendor String: The X.Org Foundation * Server Vendor Version: 1.12.4 (11204000) * NV-CONTROL Version: 1.29 * Screens: 1

From "lspci -v":

09:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0ffd (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0967 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 27 Memory at c2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at b0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at 1000 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?> Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting <?> Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?> Kernel driver in use: nvidia

Other "trivia": 4.13.16 self-configured kernel. PS/2 keyboard and "mouse" [trackball, really ;-)].

"Stop the presses!" ;-) : look what I found in my "~/.trinity/share/config/kwinrc" while searching through "~/.trinity/":

[TabBox] TraverseAll=false

... however, when I edited that to "TraverseAll=true" and logged out and then back in [to TDE], alt-tab _still_ behaved as before. :-( I checked that the edit wasn`t overwritten, and it wasn`t.

Also found in the same file, in the "[Windows]" section:

AltTabStyle=KDE

Should I be messing with _that_ somehow?

Also: how/where should I find these settings in a GUI context? They don`t seem to be available in KControl. OK, hold on... I think I found them, in "Desktop"::"Window Behavior"::"Focus", under the section heading "Navigation". I tried turning "Traverse windows on all desktops" off, hitting "Apply", then turning it back on again and "Apply" again, but it did _not_ seem to help. :-(

"The plot _thickens_!" When I switch off "Show window list while switching windows" [in "Desktop"::"Window Behavior"::"Focus", under the section heading "Navigation"], I get the following changes:

* my "~/.trinity/share/config/kwinrc" now has "AltTabStyle=CDE" instead of "AltTabStyle=KDE"

* alt-tab _does_ traverse windows on both screens -- but, of course, does not show visual feedback for the switcher

I searched for something relevant in the Bugzilla, but I found nothing that was an exact match. I _did_ find the following, which I`m including here... #1, for "completeness", and #2, to _prove_ that I really _did_ search the Bugzilla before emailing to the list. ;-)

* https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1787 * " Include minimized system tray apps in Alt+Tab switching"

How can I [at least try to] solve this problem? I _want_ the KDE-style switcher [with visual feedback], not the CDE-style "silent" and/or "invisible" one, but I _also_ want _all_ windows [or at least as many as possible, given bug #1787] from _all_ screens to be included in the switcher`s list and keyboard-selection choices. Suggestions, anybody?

Regards,

Abe