tde-users August 2014

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TDE on Slacko Puppy Linux
by Alexandre 20 Aug '14

20 Aug '14

Hi, Is it possible to install TDE on puppy Linux Slacko 5.7? It is supposed to be Slackware version 14 compatible. I have seen that there is a TDE build for Slackware with instruction here, but it seems to be outdated. -Alexandre

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I am so, so sorry - Kubuntu 14.04
by Peter Laws 19 Aug '14

19 Aug '14

Got a new workstation. Wrong video card. The vendor -- rhymes with Bell -- was happy to send me a 2-port card and 3 displays when I ordered a card that had 3 ports (because, hello, three displays). No problem, purchasing person, just have them send me the new card and I'll send the old one back. Nope, no can do, user guy. Send the whole system back. Three weeks later ... I decide I want the latest Kubuntu. I see that there is no TDE for 14.04 so I think "OK, surely they've made KDE 4 usable by now given that it's been how many years?" Um, no. Panels won't extend across multiple screens - have to have one for each. Do those stay on the screens where you put them? No they don't. Surely this is something new. No, it is not - googling around tells me that it's at least 5 years old *and* the plasma idiots say that this won't be fixed because it isn't a problem. Even *Konsole* is farked up. What a mess. So here I am ... begging for 14.04 support in TDE because I really don't have the time to spend reinstalling *again* (I skipped over the Fedora 20 and CentOS 6 chapters of the story). This is a work system, where I do work, not a play system where I play. That is a distinction lost on the plasma/KDE 4 idiots. Help? -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu College of Architecture, Regional and City Planning, MRCP '16 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feedback? Contact my director, Matt Younkins, younkinsm(a)ou.edu. Thank you!

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How do I get at NM in TDE 3.5.13.2?
by Lisi Reisz 14 Aug '14

14 Aug '14

NM seems to work (I never thought to write those words!) in general, but I am told that I need access to get a wireless connection going. How do I achieve this? I can't launch it through Alt-F2 and I can't find it in the menu. Thanks, Lisi

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Re: [trinity-users] I am so, so sorry - Kubuntu 14.04
by iadest 12 Aug '14

12 Aug '14

There&amp;#039;s one more thing with today&amp;#039;s desktop environments. I&amp;#039;m working mostly with files. The workflow is to make file in one program, process in another, correct in third one, manage files in Konqueror, use files in one more program, batch- process in terminal, etc. In Trinity the most frequently used tasks can be configured to toolbar buttons or some actions (e.g. click-to-rename which is unfortunately not consistent in different views like in MSWin). KDE4 or Gnome 3 or many other desktops are focused on working not with files, but with programs. This is a small change in ergonomy, but has significant consequences. Most customization does not exist in this model and most tasks are executed in single program, so changing active programs (famous Alt-tab) occurs rarely. It is good if someone uses only web browser and mail client, but fails when files are processed. With every new version of operating systems and tablet computing gaining popularity, this model slowly goes back to single-tasking model. It looks similar to these web browsers which dropped favourites/bookmarks for 3x3 dial scrren to bind users to few commercial internet content providers (saying &amp;quot;website&amp;quot; for these sites is not much appropriate today). MCbx Michele Calgaro &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;/?cmd=compose&amp;to=michele.calgaro@yahoo.it&quot;&gt;michele.calgaro@yahoo.it&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; napisał(a): &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;There are still people in the world who like thi

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Still quoting trouble
by Thierry de Coulon 12 Aug '14

12 Aug '14

Hi all again, Still looking into my "reply and quote" problem: These are the headers from a mail that does *not* quote when I hit reply: Return-path: <xxxxxxxx(a)telenet.be> Envelope-to: tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch Delivery-date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:54:14 +0200 Received: from andre.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.53]:58076) by io.tizoo.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <xxxxxxxxxr(a)telenet.be>) id 1XGp76-0004BO-Ea for tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:54:13 +0200 Received: from WernerW7 ([84.192.215.192]) by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id dQto1o00s49eYV801QtoHp; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:54:10 +0200 From: "mynameisnobody" <xxxxxxxxx(a)telenet.be> To: "Thierry de Coulon" <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch> References: In-Reply-To: Subject: FW: Teilnahme Konferenz Antwerpen Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:53:47 +0200 Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAApH80/Mp7hJriG70cuuLFHCgAAAEAAAACzq+e1WxSpEstgqfGp6heYBAAAAAA==(a)telenet.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0065_01CFB574.0E722870" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac+1YqK0dzhGgcPBToyNJJfOa/I3HwAAISKQ Content-Language: nl-be Disposition-Notification-To: "mynameisnobody" <xxxxxxxx(a)telenet.be> Status: R X-Status: NT X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: Hallo Thierry, <message> These are the headers of a test mail I sent to myself and that quotes correctly: Return-path: <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on haswell.shadok.ch X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Envelope-to: tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch Delivery-date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:11:35 +0200 Received: from 77-56-251-115.dclient.hispeed.ch ([77.56.251.115]:39307 helo=haswell.shadok.ch) by io.tizoo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>) id 1XH93H-00073L-2R for tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:11:35 +0200 From: Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch> Reply-To: tcoulon@decoulon'ch To: tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch Subject: bla bla blup Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:11:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20100827.1168748) X-Face: (J=[aQ(/Y-W'9OR]+q#a?vQ?E\UK(3Y)W,o(G!z9xuF=T]31}l22oDzB<cFktdE; (=?utf-8?q?jpAQ0=0A=09=7EiQ=3D?=,mFgX-(a)FHi2z.6Q2l<N3,XS&k'<},q;#,UYo%6F MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201408121211.33811.tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch> X-UID: Status: R X-Status: NC X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: THis is a try The only real difference I see is in "Message-Id" (and of course the fact that one message was sent by outlook). What can explain the difference in quoting? The first message had attachments, my test message not, but that should not make a difference? Thierry

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"possible spam" not getting quoted
by Thierry de Coulon 11 Aug '14

11 Aug '14

Hello list, I'm back with another puzzle. This time about kmail (the version in 3.5.13.2). I recently changed my ISP and the new one has an option to filter the mails with spamassassin. I am starting to receive more mails that spamassassin forwards with this header: *************************** X-Ham-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "<my isp>", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see root\@localhost for details. *************************** These mails are *not* spam but probably some sort of html/mixed html messages. The good point is that the mail is turned into plain text, the problem is that such mails don't quote the message when replying...... As far as I can say this only happens with such fowareded mails. I'm considering turning off that spam filter (I have spamassassin running localy and I use an external service), but maybe somone understanding kmails internals better than me can give an advice? Regards, Thierry

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LibreOffice with TDE integration on Debian and Ubuntu
by Slávek Banko 11 Aug '14

11 Aug '14

Hi everyone, thanks to Tim's hard work on the integration of TDE with LibreOffice I have on my small builder setup another apt source: libreoffice-tde-sb. Source contains only packages for Debian Wheezy and Ubuntu Trusty. Both for amd64 and i386. Contrary to official packages on the build-farm, there are two differences: 1) For Debian Wheezy was used as the source LibreOffice 4.2.5 from wheezy-backports. For Ubuntu Trusty was used LibreOffice 4.2.4 from trusty-updates. As a result, needs no additional packages. 2) Both are built to support TDE in addition to any existing ones - including support for KDE4. To install my gpg key: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-key A04BE668 Apt source for Debian Wheezy: deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/libreoffice-tde-sb wheezy-backports main Apt source for Ubuntu Trusty: deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/libreoffice-tde-sb trusty main Perhaps it will be helpful for you :) -- Slavek

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Konqueror copy progress info
by Thierry de Coulon 10 Aug '14

10 Aug '14

Hello all, I've switched to openSUSE (13.1) because I had some trouble with Wheezy missing some needed "recent" libraries (plus LibreOffice on Debian does not give me previews of the pictures I want to import, somehow it does on SuSE). Everything is fine with 3.5.13.2 but have one (unimportant) bother that puzzles me: On Wheezy, when I copy files with Konqueror, I get a nice progress bar. On SuSE, I get a "text box" that sequencially lists the files being copied but there is no information about progress - neither graphic nor text. As I said I can live with that, but I wondered if that might be a bug in the openSUSE build, or more probably I'm missing something? Have a nice day, Thierry

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HAL removal - needed for ksmserver?
by aw30＠sayne.org 05 Aug '14

05 Aug '14

I get a lot of boot messages of the form: udevd[1465]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event' 'socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event': No such file or directory The standard fix from https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/01/msg00857.html is Remove the hal package and you should be fine. HOWEVER: apt-get remove hal gives: The following packages will be REMOVED: hal hal-trinity kdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity kdebase-trinity ksmserver-trinity And I think ksmserver-trinity is required ( I use xinit /opt/trinity/bin/startkde to start Trinity ) So does Trinity actually use HAL, or can I just get rid of it? cheers ant -- Sent from my linux system running Debian 7, desktop trinity-KDE. This email is plain text, not HTML. Any attachments are either .jpeg or .pdf

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KNewsTicker websites list update
by Michele Calgaro 02 Aug '14

02 Aug '14

Dear all, I am updating the KNewsTicker websites list, removing all inactive sites. If you would like some new sites to be added as default, please send your requests to this list. Cheers Michele

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