Moving this to a separate thread as it’s nor really related to switching to
TDE.
On Sunday 03 February 2019 08:34:24 pm William Morder wrote:
> When you say "root shutdown unclean": How do you shutdown, and what are you
> seeing?
On Monday 04 February 2019 07:53:46 am Stefan Krusche wrote:
> Can you point to a reference for this bug?
While I did mention the issue on the Devuan user mailing list, I do not know
if there is a bug report for it. It may be the issue Stefan references, but,
if so MX Linux has patched/solved the issue on their own as I do not see it
with MX Linux.
To maintain due diligence for client NDAs I must use encryption, or some other
method, to safeguard their data. As such, I no longer have Devuan installed.
Bill (I think it was Bill, sorry if I’m mis-quoting) is entirely right though,
I have never seen any of the lags or hangs with Devuan or MX Linux that the
systemd versions of Debian are fairly well know for.
# # #
Here are my remembrances from a month or so ago. Obviously these are not the
exact message phrases.
Observations:
- Install Devuan selecting automatically use full disk and encrypt
[everything]. [1]
- In the Software Selection only select:
- - Console productivity
- - Standard system utilities
- - (e.g. Un-check everything else)
- Install TDE
- Boot normally
[1] >>
> I have a setup with the root partition in a logical Volume of LVM on top of
> LUKS (whole disk but /boot)
Yes, that’s what I had as well. /home was included in the root partition.
Swap was a separate encrypted partition in the LVM.
<< [1]
Best guess: Since so little is installed, you don’t have the usual
startup/shutdown splash screens that usually ‘hide’ any of the
startup/shutdown scrolling messages. Try hitting ‘Escape’ if you have splash
screens hiding the messages?
- Turn off the computer by using
- - TDE menu >> Log out >> Turn off
During shutdown you will see messages somewhat similar to what Stefan shows,
but they are closer to this and explicitly say “[FAIL]” in red:
“Unmounting {root partition name} [FAIL] ... [FAIL][FAIL][FAIL][FAIL][FAIL]”
It hangs for several seconds (15?) on the first [FAIL] and then re-tries
enough times to wrap the line.
- I shutdown approximately 13 times after noticing the first [FAIL] message
where I explicitly watched the shutdown messages.
- Of the boot up sequences I explicitly watched (10+) there were 3 instances
of fsck(?*) finding and fixing errors on the root partition.
* The messages go fast, I’m fairly sure is was fsck, but it could have been
anything really, my knowledge of the actual boot process is pretty weak.
# # #
That’s as best as my memory gives me. If you install Devuan with Full Disk
Encryption (FDE), it’s really easy to spot, just watch a shutdown.
Okay, I’ve got to get back to work :( If there’s more Q’s, ask, but it’ll be
a few days or next weekend before I get to them.
Best,
Michael
Debian Buster, KDE 3.5.10. aptitude
As more and more software-updates clash with their dependencies against
what KDE needs or provides, I wanted to install trinity, preliminary
stable, alongside KDE. KDE should stay operational till I had
transferred my settings and programs aso to trinity.
No go!
Tdebase was fetched and seemingly installed, but when I restarted the
computer and wanted to start KDE, there was only a black screen with
the mouse-cursor and whatever I did with keyboard or mouse, nothing
happened. Cold reboot to clear memory, same thing.
Okay, let's then have a look at trinity. A blue screen with the logo
appeared and after a few seconds something like "no ..... available
check your installation"and I only could close that window via a warm
reboot. KDE gave me the black screen again and also TDE said
"check installation".
Installed TDE again, same results as before. Half an afternoon had
passed with no desktop still available.
Glad, that I had backupped my system before the experiment and could
restore my working KDE.
So there's also a clash between TDE and KDE, incredible!
Where should I look for the culprit for this disaster?
Kind regards.
Hi Guys,
When I get an update, I also get a message
"The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:"
But the packages never get removed !
Should they be automatically removed or is there something that I
should do ?
Thanks in advance.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
