tde-users December 2020

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FAS 32 and #
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

Hi all! I just ran into this problem: konqueror can open any file with a '#' in it - if the file is not on a dos partition. e.g.: "12345#hallo.txt" on a ext4 opens fine. The same file on a FAT32 does not open - konqeror tries to open a file "12345". "ls" on said FAT32 filesystem shows the correct name "12345#hallo.txt", so I suspect a konqueror problem. Could somebody please test before I file a bug report? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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A look at the narrow version of the webpage
by E. Liddell 25 Feb '21

25 Feb '21

For your amusement (and to test whether I can actually *post* to the new mailing lists, since I got the confirm and welcome mails, but other messages have only been coming from the old list), I offer the following glimpses of what the tweaked website will look like on smaller devices: Really narrow screens (such as phones) will see this: https://i.postimg.cc/m2tsMdWb/tdepage-phone.png Note the vertical menu at the bottom, and the header has been resized so that the word "Development" doesn't overflow off the screen to the right. Screens between 520px and 800px wide (of which I don't expect to find many—some tablets held in portrait mode, maybe) will get this instead: https://i.postimg.cc/y6fKkM5Q/tdepage-medium.png Menu horizontal at the bottom, header larger but still not full-sized. At 800px, it reverts to the format we all know and . . . love? In any case, at 800px, the sidebar takes up a little more than 20% of the screen, which should be acceptable to most. The resizing trick doesn't work in Konqueror, unfortunately, since it doesn't support CSS @media queries at the necessary level, but I am going to be very surprised if anyone manages to get Konqueror onto a phone. The page does resize itself correctly on the three modern browsers I've tested. E. Liddell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Re: Re: amarok and missing mp4v2 in Buster
by David C. Rankin 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

On 05/19/2019 04:56 PM, deloptes wrote: >> Amarok remove ( https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=921127 ) >> argues "it's dead upstream and better alternatives exist." >> >> mp4v2 has 9 ignored security issues ( https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mp4v2 >> ) so if it is possible to modify it in order to Amarpk does not depend on >> mp4v2, then much better (Qt4/Qt5 Amarok versions do not depend on mp4v2). > I think if we want to remove this dependency, we need to open an issue in > TGW for it. The problem becomes, and naturally so, that TDE may need to become upstream for the various components of Amarok, or Amarok itself it upsteam support is gone. There was a lengthy discussion on the openSuSE list about Amarok and specifically whether a "better alternatives exist.". There were none found that provided the traditional features or behavior of Amarok, which mitigates in favor of patching Amarok and continuing to offer it. There were always shortcomings in the supposed better alternatives that either required hacks or workarounds, even for behavior as trivial as continual play. Just another angle to consider. The openSuSE list discussion was within the past 2-weeks, though I must have deleted that thread. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Wiki import did not import files?
by Michael 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

Somewhat a guess, but when the wiki was moved, did the files not get moved at the same time? https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/index.php?title=Category:Pages_with_broken_… I was looking at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Kmail_Sanitize_and_Decrypt_Mails and noticed the file Kmail-decrypt-and-sanitise-mail.gz isn’t there anymore. If you were an author of one of these: DevelopmentSpecificationsKCMLDAPController Java Integration (KDE3 Architecture) Kmail Sanitize and Decrypt Mails KMDI Tutorial Sample Applications and you still have the missing files, would you re-upload them? Best all, Michael

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Trinity Trouble - Konqueror?
by Edward 09 Jan '21

09 Jan '21

Hi everyone. Unfortunately, I was forced to remove my installation of Trinity/PCLinuxOS this morning, due to Firefox and Thunderbird not working correctly. Specifically, Firefox was repeatedly asking to be the default browser, even as I previously selected it as the default. And Thunderbird, in the middle of all this, would no longer open links at all, deciding to automatically add a new 'account' relating to news and feeds. Both Vivaldi and Chromium were also installed as browsers, but once both of these were removed, Firefox and Thunderbird continued to exhibit the same behavior. Upon installing first Trinity/Ubuntu 20.04.1 and then Lubuntu 20.04 LTS, I was unable to get HPLIP (as hp-setup) with either OS to communicate with my HP printer, which was USB-connected. Final attempt, was to install Debian (10, LXQt). Fortunately, this was able to detect the printer using hp-setup, however neither hp-systray nor the HPLIP Toolbox (GUI) will launch. I am extremely hesitant to install Trinity on top of this Debian installation, because I am afraid that with Konqueror included as the default file manager, I will have the same issues with Firefox and Thunderbird. I suspect that something with PCLOS may have changed, causing it to detect both Firefox and Konqueror as web browsers, instead of a web browser and a file manager. I don't know. I have been fiddling with this for the past seven hours now. I just want it to work. Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions/etc.

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Re: Trinity Trouble - Konqueror?
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 31 Dec '20

31 Dec '20

> Hi everyone. > > Unfortunately, I was forced to remove my installation of > Trinity/PCLinuxOS this morning, due to Firefox and Thunderbird not > working correctly. Specifically, Firefox was repeatedly asking to be the > default browser, even as I previously selected it as the default. And > Thunderbird, in the middle of all this, would no longer open links at > all, deciding to automatically add a new 'account' relating to news and > feeds. > > Both Vivaldi and Chromium were also installed as browsers, but once both > of these were removed, Firefox and Thunderbird continued to exhibit the > same behavior. > > Upon installing first Trinity/Ubuntu 20.04.1 and then Lubuntu 20.04 LTS, > I was unable to get HPLIP (as hp-setup) with either OS to communicate > with my HP printer, which was USB-connected. > > Final attempt, was to install Debian (10, LXQt). Fortunately, this was > able to detect the printer using hp-setup, however neither hp-systray > nor the HPLIP Toolbox (GUI) will launch. > > I am extremely hesitant to install Trinity on top of this Debian > installation, because I am afraid that with Konqueror included as the > default file manager, I will have the same issues with Firefox and > Thunderbird. I suspect that something with PCLOS may have changed, > causing it to detect both Firefox and Konqueror as web browsers, instead > of a web browser and a file manager. I don't know. > > I have been fiddling with this for the past seven hours now. I just want > it to work. > > Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions/etc. > > > ____________________________________________________ Ok as a Big Daddy (PCLOS) user. I have some suggestions. I don't use the pclos package for FF or TB. I download from Mozilla directly and use those. Then go to preferences and manually check the default settings for both. I use a lot of HP printers. Great printers but they have their eccentricities. Try leaving the printers on during install. Or starting the HP tools getting to the printer detection dialog, then turn the printer on, off and on again. Make sure the USB is a good one. You can also use system-config-printer, which, IMO, is the best printer setup tool. The only time is doesn't always seem to work is when it's a HP network printer. I hope the above offers you something. However, wait for input from the rest of the collective. Be patient. Kate

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Migration of services - 12. etherpad
by Slávek Banko 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

Hi all, the twelfth, last, service on the migration list is Etherpad. -- Migration status -- Etherpad is a service that is located on the previous primary server, so we will need to decide how to proceed with this service. Etherpad was actively used only at the beginning of the project - last in 2012. Since then, the uses are very rare and insignificant. Therefore, it seems that it would be a useless effort to deal with the creation of a new instance and the migration of content. -- What needs to be done -- Because the "pads" that are there are more developer notes than data that would be useful to place on the main TDE wiki, we intended that useful information from the Etherpad could be placed on the wiki in TGW, which seems more suitable for developer notes. Data would not be lost, it would be in one place along with other developer discussions on issues and pull requests, and the Etherpad could be abandoned. -- More ideas and suggestions? What is your opinion on placing data from Etherpad to the wiki in TGW and leaving Etherpad? Do you know of any other services that we forgot when preparing the list of services for migration? Do you have any other ideas and suggestions? Cheers -- Slávek

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Migration of services - 11. build service
by Slávek Banko 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

Hi all, the eleventh service on the migration list is the build service. -- Migration status -- The previous build service used its own instance of Ubuntu Launchpad - you know it as QuickBuild. This is operated on the previous primary site, so it was necessary to deal with the change. In parallel, a second set of builders is used to build packages for PSB and PTB repositories. These builders are designed from the beginning to be completely independent of QuickBuild. This makes it easier to add new versions of distributions, other architectures and, above all, allows these builders to run sustainably. After changing the primary archive, official packages are no longer published from QuickBuild, but from PSB. This is starting with TDE R14.0.7. Therefore, QuickBuild is no longer used to build official packages and there is no need to deal with its migration. From a technical point of view: The reprepro tool is now used to manage all APT repositories. Sbuild (with schroot) is used to build binary packages. The inoticoming tool is used to automate the import of packages (both source and binary) into reprepro. -- What needs to be done -- QuickBuild provided build tasks management and a web interface for finding packages, monitoring build status, and viewing build logs. Such a web interface is not available for the currently used reprepro + sbuild. Because Launchpad is too extensive - it provides many services that we don't need and don't want to use, there is no intention to set up a new Launchpad instance as a replacement for QuickBuild. Originally I was hoping that mini-buildd could be a good replacement because it also uses reprepro + sbuild. But after an initial thorough research and testing, I found that the mini-buildd is designed with many limitations that make it unsuitable for us. It is not possible to remove these limitations, as this would require a fundamental change in the concept of mini-buildd operation. That's why I stopped further research of mini-buildd. Since I have not found any other usable existing solution, it seems that we will need to design and create our own solution here. Although it is not a high priority now, it is an important step, because the current build service is completely dependent on me. I already have some ideas, but so far there was not enough time for me to start making the first components. -- More ideas and suggestions? Because the current state of the build service has been working well for a long time - many years for PSB and PTB, starting with R14.0.7 also for official packages, I suggest to focus efforts on other migration tasks first. And leave the build service improvements for later. Do you have any other ideas and suggestions? Cheers -- Slávek

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kmix - audacity - hiss & feedback when recording
by William Morder 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Just wondering if anybody else here has encountered this problem, and what to do about it. When I play an instrument through kmix, I must enable loopback mixing, but this creates a hiss in the speakers, which in turn tends to create feedback -- in particular, when I plug in a hollow-body electric guitar. This has only been a problem since I upgraded from Devuan Jessie. I used to play through my computer speakers all the time, using them like a guitar amplifier. (There is another device, a headphone amplifier, which I use as a kind of pre-amp.) But otherwise, nothing in my setup has changed, except that I have upgraded to Devuan Beowulf. I would like to get rid of that hiss, and I don't remember having to enable loopback mixing before. I have only recorded a little since upgrading (using audacity), but it doesn't seem to affect recording quality too much, because I plug headphones into my computer speakers, which eliminates both hiss & feedback problems. Sorry for the detailed presentation; feel free to snip. The main problem is kmix-trinity, and whether anything has changed between Devuan Jessie and Beowulf, namely, loopback mixing. Or have I somehow misconfigured it? Bill

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keepassx crashes - due to Qt4-TDEStyle
by William Morder 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Never before had any problems with keepass or keepassx or any of its variants; not when running TDE or other desktops, not when using it on Android, etc. But now it crashes every time I try to open it. I've attached a screenshot which shows the error message. Does anybody have a clue what is the problem? Bill

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