tde-users October 2021

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Weird Kicker, Titlebar, mouse pointer behavior R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT)
by dep 08 Oct '21

08 Oct '21

Following this morning's apt upgrades and a reboot for unrelated reasons, I've encounted unexpected behavior with parts of TDE. First, when the desktop starts, the mouse pointer normally becomes considerably smaller, reflecting the change from whatever the login screen resolution is to the TDE desktop resolution for my 1920x2160 screen, but now it stays big. The Kicker panel and its icons remain the size they've always been, but the font both for Kicker applications -- taskbar, calendar, the actual menu in KMenu -- have become minuscule. Really tiny, as in 6pt. tiny. The title bar font has also become much smaller. There are no changes I've found in the behavior of the applications themselves. In fact, when I move the mouse pointer into an application it reverts to the normally smaller size. So this appears to apply to the desktop, window decorations, and Kicker only. I've made no configuration changes. Any idea where I should look to fix what seems to have gotten broken? I presume there's some setting that the items mentioned abnove have in common, but damned if I have been able to figure out what it is. I'm running R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT), which is pretty much always stable. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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[sorta solved] Re: Weird Kicker, Titlebar, mouse pointer behavior R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT)
by dep 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

said dep: | Following this morning's apt upgrades and a reboot for unrelated | reasons, I've encounted unexpected behavior with parts of TDE. | | First, when the desktop starts, the mouse pointer normally becomes | considerably smaller, reflecting the change from whatever the login | screen resolution is to the TDE desktop resolution for my 1920x2160 | screen, but now it stays big. | | The Kicker panel and its icons remain the size they've always been, but | the font both for Kicker applications -- taskbar, calendar, the actual | menu in KMenu -- have become minuscule. Really tiny, as in 6pt. tiny. | The title bar font has also become much smaller. | | There are no changes I've found in the behavior of the applications | themselves. In fact, when I move the mouse pointer into an application | it reverts to the normally smaller size. So this appears to apply to the | desktop, window decorations, and Kicker only. | | I've made no configuration changes. | | Any idea where I should look to fix what seems to have gotten broken? I | presume there's some setting that the items mentioned abnove have in | common, but damned if I have been able to figure out what it is. | | I'm running R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT), which is pretty much always stable. I changed mouse cursor themes -- I'd been using redglass because there's no reverse-color theme, alas, nor have I figured out how to make one -- and restarted TDE. Fonts returned to normal. Changed back to redglass. Restarted TDE. Mouse returned to normal. So. Would still love to know what caused the problem to begin with, though. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Re: Centralised EU censorship blocks mails !?
by dep 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

said Gianluca Interlandi: | Just wondering, is the issue with internet service providers (ISPs) | blocking the e-mails or is it the e-mail service companies? In the | latter case, would it solve it by switching to a different e-mail | service, e.g., from GMX to gmail or similar? Oh, and handing the mail over to Google is not something that accomplishes anything that any sane person would want to have. Google, for all its "want-some-candy-little-girl?" freebies, is evil. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Recommendations for TDE-compatible non-systemd distro?
by Steven D'Aprano 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

Hi folks, After about a year of being not very happy with Fedora 29, I am planning to bite the bullet and rebuild my desktop. This time I want to install something that works with TDE, and preferably not running systemd. Requirements: - my PC is a low-end machine with Intel i3 CPU - my Linux admin experience is low to medium (been using Linux for about 20 years, but mostly "if it works, don't fiddle with it") - I want to run TDE. What would you recommend? Thanks in advance, Steve

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Re: Centralised EU censorship blocks mails !? - background info
by William Morder 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

On Wednesday 06 October 2021 17:20:43 you wrote: > On Wed, 6 Oct 2021, William Morder wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 October 2021 16:35:20 you wrote: > >>> RMS gets a bad rap these days, but he was right about one basic idea: > >>> that our data ought never be collected in the first place. Once it is > >>> collected, with or without our permission, whether it is legal or > >>> illegal, then *somebody* out there will want it, and will have the > >>> means to get it. > >> > >> Who is RMS? > > > > Oh, sorry for the shorthand. > > > > Richard Stallman, one of main persons behind GNU/Linux. (Or, he would > > probably say, the *only* one, the sole creator ... ) You can discover > > more for yourself, as there are a lot of pages out there either written > > by him or about him. The FOSS or Open Source movement is rather a > > watered-down version of his original idea. > > Oh, I know him. I went to a presentation he gave at the ETH Zürich a long > time ago. At the end of his presentation he put on a gown and introduced > us to the "Church of Emacs"! He was certainly an inspiration. Sorry to > hear he gave himself a bad rap. > > Gianluca > > > He annoying at best, a jerk or asshole most of the time, and nowadays has > > got himself a bad reputation, and some of it is deserved. He says a lot > > of things that are, um, politically incorrect or worse. But he was right > > about this one idea, which is that we must stop these problems at their > > root. > > > > Bill Yes, it is too bad. My sense of him is that he is one of those stuck-back-in-the-1960s hippies who never moved on. I mean, he was still living in student residence dormitories (I believe it was) at his university until a couple years ago (aged in his mid-60s, but still living like a university student). And, like many a crusty old hippie I know from the generation before myself, he doesn't recognize that what sounded cool and hep back in the 1960s sounds, to a younger generation, inappropriate or offensive. People don't talk like that any more, but he is tone-deaf. He is one of that original pantheon of MIT geeks and hackers (in the "pure" sense of the word), and created emacs (I think it was), and other stuff that is fundamental to our present technology. So I give him due respect, but I can also see how he upsets some people, because he irked me, too. Still, on this basic idea, he is right, and it's getting harder to evade that point. Users can own their data only if they own their machines, and if the software is free/libre; to protect our communications and data, and to preserve our privacy, we must use encryption. Otherwise, we will slip gradually into having no privacy at all, then attempts to preserve our privacy are criminalized. It really comes down to a choice between one or the other. Then he fell into trouble with the "cancel culture" and Me-Too movement, etc., because he said some things that were objectionable. In any case, if he had thought twice about his words, he might have saved himself much pain and suffering, as his indiscretions got him removed from some positions (though now semi-rehabilitated and reinstated?), and also he lost his student housing arrangements, and now is living who knows where; although according to his home page he is now giving talks in Europe. Bill

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Screenshots for upcomming relase ..
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 06 Oct '21

06 Oct '21

May I submit a dark themed screenshot for the upcomming release? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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twin-style-suse2 for openSUSE Leap 15.2
by Gianluca Interlandi 06 Oct '21

06 Oct '21

Dear TDE users list, I see that the SUSE2 theme has been packaged for Trinity thanks to Philippe: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/twin-style-suse2 https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/56#issuecomment-… I wonder whether there are any plans to package it for openSUSE for the current version of Trinity R14.0.10? If not, is it straightfoward to extract the binaries compiled for another distribution and move the files to the respective folders? Thanks! Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/ Research Assistant Professor at the Department of Bioengineering at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------

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TDE R14.0.11 is coming soon
by Slávek Banko 05 Oct '21

05 Oct '21

Hi all, if you are not subscribed to the tde-announcements list, you can find more information in the web archive: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… Cheers -- Slávek

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Re: [tde-devels] TDE R14.0.11 is coming soon
by Michele Calgaro 04 Oct '21

04 Oct '21

On 2021/10/04 09:26 AM, Slávek Banko wrote: > Hi all, > > as developers, you are probably more involved, so you probably keep in mind > that there is a plan for release R14.0.11 at the end of October. Therefore, > only a small reminder, if you are not subscribed to the tde-announcements > list: > > https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… > > Cheers > Also a good time to send in screenshots that could be used for the release notes :-) Cheers Michele

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Removing menu items
by Edward 03 Oct '21

03 Oct '21

I have an interesting problem. I have the Thunderbird and Firefox builds from the Ubuntuzilla repo for Ubuntu/Debian installed on both of my desktops. I've discovered that once these packages are uninstalled, either via Synaptic, or the command line, the app's entries are not removed from the TDE Internet menu. I have a second desktop environment installed (LXQt, which is what was used to install Debian from the image) and I noticed the same thing on their Internet menu. There is no easy way to remove the entries from LXQT as there is no GUI to edit the menu that I am aware of. Does TDE have something like this? The only other option I see is to wipe out everything on the computers and reinstall Linux from scratch, which is something I would rather not do. As for Ubuntuzilla, they have a support forum at Ubuntu, but I am not creating an Ubuntu One account just for this. Thanks in advance. -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.11-pre - Debian: 11 (amd64)

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