tde-users October 2021

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not a huge problem, but probably a bug
by dep 26 Oct '21

26 Oct '21

Greets, everybody . . . I'm pretty sure that this is a bug, one that has survived a decade or more. If you open the game "Shisen-sho" and click to call the "Game" menu, the resulting menu is *enormous.* It works, but it is *enormous*. Per the attached. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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[OT] Distro evaluation tool
by J Leslie Turriff 25 Oct '21

25 Oct '21

An interesting tool for choosing a distro is at https://distrochooser.de/ Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.10 tde-config: 1.0

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Where to report bug?
by Mike Bird 24 Oct '21

24 Oct '21

I'd like to report a bug in the package shown below. I've been browsing and searching all over gitea and cgit and I confess I am clueless. How exactly am I supposed to find the right place to report this bug? Tx, --Mike Package: redmond-default-settings-trinity Version: 4:14.0.11~pre0-0debian11.0.0+0~a Architecture: all Maintainer: TDE Debian Team <team-debian(a)trinitydesktop.org> Installed-Size: 41139 Depends: <snip> Recommends: <snip> Suggests: <snip> Conflicts: kubuntu-default-settings, kubuntu-default-settings-trinity, kubuntu-settings-desktop Priority: optional Section: tde Filename: pool/main-r14/r/redmond-default-settings-trinity/redmond-default-settings-trinity_14.0.11~pre0-0debian11.0.0+0~a_all.deb Size: 40072528 SHA256: 9b9ecf1925a20caf8cfc53a82474dc1b19536601d705af8ac3d999de8b3dafac SHA1: 2998a2781f9f0ff50b4598a066130e5db164bb95 MD5sum: 9b7923e9abf55fab81a1741d710de59a Description: Redmond default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu Trinity desktop This package includes artwork and Kubuntu branding. Description-md5: 0a552c011804568c22eedf1edacac0e0

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Trinity IRC - konversation - onion connection
by William Morder 23 Oct '21

23 Oct '21

Something weird, good for a laugh. The server irc.libera.chat and its variants bans me even before I figure out how to join any IRC room. It seemed strange, but a little searching finds out that it is my ISP (not myself) that is blocked, for maintaining an open proxy server: I was referred to some page that gave my IP as 170.39.170.101, so I did a whois lookup, and yup, that address goes back to my ISP, monkeybrains. They have tor servers at: 209.141.41.225 209.141.56.96 209.185.120.173 In an earlier post, under some other topic, I mentioned this. Of course I block all these IP addresses myself, since I don't know why my ISP would maintain Tor servers (for surveillance, or just to be helpful?), but it seems inherently insecure to use these tor servers. Thus I am forced to run Konversation or some other IRC client over Tor. If "they" (whoever "they" are, "out there") wish to prevent bad things from happening on the internet, all it does it encourage more people to use onion links, which is probably good for us users, but maybe not what "they" intended. I did already look up the pages about how to set it up. I created my own self-signed certificate, copied it to the appropriate places, but now I am stumped. I found instructions here for setting up Konversation: https://libera.chat/guides/certfp.html but it might be intended for KDE5's version of Konversation, not for TDE. Also I went through these pages: https://libera.chat/guides/connect#accessing-liberachat-via-tor Other IRC clients, so far, are less user-friendly than Konversation, and I like to stick with Trinity where possible. Also still trying to figure out SASL, and cannot find the public key. I don't know if this is for irc.libera.chat or palladium.libera.chat (which is what their webpage says to use). I followed instructions to configure torrc to use the onion link, but so far no luck. I assume that there must be something basic that I am missing. I've used lots of chat clients like Kopete and Psi-Plus and Pidgin (and Trillian, in Windoze), so I know how to get them to do what I want, but I've never used IRC. Neither Kopete nor Psi-Plus seem to work for me, and ksirc left me unenthusiastic, but I am willing to try whatever works. Any help or suggestions or links are welcome. Bill

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by ethanjacktaylor949＠gmail.com 22 Oct '21

22 Oct '21

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stupid question - where's the public key?
by William Morder 21 Oct '21

21 Oct '21

When I search for "public key Trinity Desktop Environment" or the like, I get nothing useful. I assume that this is something different from the trinity keyring for the package repositories. I tried to connect to #trinity-desktop on IRC (using their onion link), but I get this message: [15:26] [Info] Looking for server libera75jm6of4wxpxt4aynol3xjmbtxgfyjpu34ss4d7r7q2v5zrpyd.onion:6697... [15:26] [Info] Server found, connecting... [15:26] [Info] Connected; logging in... [15:26] [Notice] -palladium.libera.chat- *** Ident disabled, not checking ident [15:26] [Notice] -palladium.libera.chat- *** Looking up your hostname... [15:26] [Notice] -palladium.libera.chat- *** Couldn't look up your hostname [15:26] [Notice] -palladium.libera.chat- *** Notice -- Public-key (NOT password) SASL authentication is required to connect to the Tor onion service. Please see https://libera.chat/guides/connect#accessing-liberachat-via-tor for configuration assistance. [15:26] [error] Closing Link: gateway/tor-sasl/account (Public-key (NOT password) SASL authentication is required to connect to the Tor onion service. Please see https://libera.chat/guides/connect#accessing-liberachat-via-tor for configuration assistance.) I did already look up these pages: https://libera.chat/guides/connect#accessing-liberachat-via-tor https://libera.chat/guides/certfp.html but I am still missing something here. If I recall, no password is required for the IRC group, and I followed what Nik and Slavek said, SSL connection on port 6697. #trinity-desktop irc.libera.chat:6697 Also, do I need to register my user name somewhere? The default default is my own system user name, which I don't want, so I created a new identity. Here is their onion address, if anybody else wants to try it: libera75jm6of4wxpxt4aynol3xjmbtxgfyjpu34ss4d7r7q2v5zrpyd.onion Any help is appreciated. Bill

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Re: email mess - maybe OT or not
by William Morder 21 Oct '21

21 Oct '21

On Thursday 21 October 2021 02:58:59 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 02:37:24AM -0700, William Morder via tde-users wrote: > > By the way, just rethinking an earlier email exchange with Steve > > D'Arpano: That first testing email (sent to his private email address) > > was not sent from a template, but was created from scratch. I filled in > > all the fields by hand; the second testing email sent to him was also > > from scratch. Yet only the first contained reference headers to Gene's > > email, not the second. > > I only received one test email from you to my email address, and it did > not contain the mystery Gene reference header. > > > So while myself or my email client, which is Kmail. are common > > denominators, my email templates, at least in this instance, are not. I > > deleted them anyway, since they will stay in my trash for a while and I > > can always retrieve them or create new ones. But I don't think templates > > are the problem. > > Can you send a new email, from scratch, to the TDE list please? Actually, that last one was just such an email, and this one, too, even though it *looks* like a reply. I created a new email, and filled in all the fields by hand. Also there were two others that I sent you: one beginning "I fell asleep" and the other "And a little P.S.", where I prematurely declared that Gene's reference headers appeared in both those emails. (It did in the first, so naturally I assumed that it would be repeated in the second.) That small detail doesn't support blaming my templates, and it makes no sense that two emails, created in the same way, contain those big differences. Bill

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test email 2 - TDE mailing list template
by William Morder 21 Oct '21

21 Oct '21

Responding to Slavek's request for another test email, this one using the template that I created for the mailing list. I had to retrieve it from my trash folder. Before sending this (that is, at this moment, as I write these words), there is no reference to Gene's address or anything else that looks amiss. I viewed the source before sending, which I append here below. As you can see, no reference to Gene here. Bill From: William Morder <doctor_contendo(a)zoho.com> Reply-To: Morder William <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> Bcc: Morder William <doctor_contendo(a)zoho.com> Organization: Dis X-KMail-Transport: Doctor Contendo To: TDE Users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> Subject: TDE mailing list Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 04:48:55 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 X-Face: $&=}+L\Xo2L2K<yiaG'Vqd)I(?p|#7Al%Ar?c}`8Ix`?}ijUv>WrC+`.| x->=?utf-8?q?HN=24l=23F=25aei=0A=09=607=24Y*U=26=5D0?=,afFql:c4P*GOXErQThYxsA@g*!O| L3byal^Pg~*D&8MEE;_Y5~KCEK<=?utf-8?q?b=3Am=7BO=0A=09tIlX=26=26=26h=2Ezhf?=>=?utf-8?q?L2+=23wSiwiIt=7Ba=3Az=26+locRi=7E=2E=5BOHRbHXJOg/=27z=27z=5D=7E?= =?utf-8?q?R2=25d8pXnSZHw=7Dksi=0A=09T0g?="?$|5kzaa[C9$mL!Qu>*h}[fx8I!*'Nt1e"| w)l&NuW0/l8.?4&o7*fe.KC7fn) =?utf-8?q?aK=3A3=0A=09I4=60=25a=2EFGYEzGYdu?=)t9)2?u7{k_},DKH62YFx'*[;@ X-KMail-SignatureActionEnabled: false X-KMail-EncryptActionEnabled: false X-KMail-CryptoMessageFormat: 15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-KMail-Recipients: TDE Users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org>, Morder William <doctor_contendo(a)zoho.com> Status: R X-Status: N X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent:

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Re: email mess - maybe OT or not
by William Morder 21 Oct '21

21 Oct '21

And a little P.S. I created these last two emails from scratch, not a reply, not a template, filled in all the fields with my own two reasonably clean hands, and I *still* get Gene's email address in the reference headers. Another email sent out to a friend only a couple days ago (completely unrelated) contains no references to Gene on the TDE list, nor to person B. So it definitely seems to have some connection to the TDE mailing list. If so, then how and why? Bill

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I just resubscribed, but the 64$ question is how did I get removed?
by Gene Heskett 20 Oct '21

20 Oct '21

Last post ack the list archives was in August 2017, after which the list was silent, and my msgs were apparently routed to /dev/null. But I didn't unsubscribe. My ISP has been known to block/bounce but pearsoncomputing.net was in their "whitelist", I put it there yonks ago. Anyway, I'm glad to be back. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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