tde-users February 2021

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Update Chimaera (bullseye) + TDE 14.1 works fine
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 18 Feb '21

18 Feb '21

Just to give a heads-up for all that want to upgrade from Beowulf to Chimaera: it works - and TDE 14.1 is better than ever. Beowulf to chimaera is not a simple "apt update; apt dist-upgrade". First purge all GNOME libraries on your system. Then you'll need some passes of "apt upgrade", check for packages on hold ("apt-mark showhold"), update these, puge the chache, check for packages without candidate ("apt-show version|grep 'No avail'"), purge if unused, check again ... the whole process took ~ 3 hours on my t60/t61. Most time was spent on downloading packages. The upgrade process will most likely unistall libreoffice/freecad/zim/..., just reinstall that later. "terminator 0.96" does not work any more, 2.1.0 basicly works (colors are off, fonts need to be installed ... gtk3 crap after all). linuxcnc-uspace from the repos does not work due to some missing python2 suff. Kernel needs to be installed manually when you come from BPO. Now TDE 14.1 ... this is very nice :) The volume control uses the incerement steps that are configured (14.0.1 did not). Automounting usb flashdrives brings up konqueror (as I configured it on 14.0.1 - that was gone in prev. version of 14.1). What's gone is the entry in the context menue that opened konqeror in the actual mountpount of a device. So I'm back to my quest of "media://" :) To sum it up: IMO the upgrade is worth it. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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OFF TOPIC!!! = Why crackmonkeys should not be allowed to own tech = OFF TOPIC!!!
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

> On Monday 15 February 2021 23:00:57 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > And got caught by spamassassin. So I've not recourse but to copy/paste: > > Is there an rpm or apt-get comment that can batch remove repeat rpms. > The old version of rather. > > A dimwit neighbour decide not allow synaptic to finish updating and force > shut > it down to go watch football (american). Now he keeps getting warnings of > multiple rpm versions. I can't go fix it for obvious reasons. So I'm > hoping > to give him some command that would resolve this. Otherwise, he has to > drop > off. He's "extremely social" if you know what I mean. Sadly he's a good > old > friend's son, I can't really say no. > > This is the same person who decided his new snowblower could clean > his "short" > drive way without engine oil. > > Why crackmonkeys should not be allowed to own tech... > > I know I'm going to end up having to do it, but I thought I'd ask. > > Kate > > From Gene: > > After 86 years, my dearest kate, I have learned that trying to head off > such behaviour is essentially thankless, they cannot be made to > understand that you are trying to help when you object to such self > destructive behaviour. > > Sometimes its best to let them sort it out themselves. His answer is > probably to reinstall, probably loseing any work he may have already > done with it, including his accounts receivable, which could be an > expensive lesson. > > If you have to do the reinstall, you should become the first user, with a > longer pw you never share, and no root pw, making him a non-priviledged > user, but make sure sshd is running and that you are the only one that > can run sudo. That way you can log in and do maintenance/updates etc > from your place, undisturbed by prying eyes. > > Such self-defense is not a personality problem. All he needs to learn is > to shut off the monitor only and leave it running, 24/7. Just make sure > it has enough memory so he can watch football at the same time you are > sorting his latest basket of rattlesnakes. If his network connection is > dynamic so his net address is volatile, have a late boot script email > you its address anytime its rebooted. > > Good luck girl, stay safe and well. Wise words. I'm repairing for his mother's sake. Steve, never had the pwds. His brother ran the update with simple instruction. Leave it alone, til he returns with his mother. Didn't work out. Oh well. Cheers, Kate

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Why crackmonkeys should not be allowed to own tech
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 16 Feb '21

16 Feb '21

Is there an rpm or apt-get comment that can batch remove repeat rpms. The old version of rather. A dimwit neighbour decide not allow synaptic to finish updating and force shut it down to go watch football (american). Now he keeps getting warnings of multiple rpm versions. I can't go fix it for obvious reasons. So I'm hoping to give him some command that would resolve this. Otherwise, he has to drop off. He's "extremely social" if you know what I mean. Sadly he's a good old friend's son, I can't really say no. This is the same person who decided his new snowblower could clean his "short" drive way without engine oil. Why crackmonkeys should not be allowed to own tech... I know I'm going to end up having to do it, but I thought I'd ask. Kate

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OFF TOPIC!!! = Why crackmonkeys should not be allowed to own tech = OFF TOPIC!!!
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 16 Feb '21

16 Feb '21

> BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > > > Yes, he's that stupid. Which is odd, his brother and sister are both very > > intelligent. As is his mother and late father. It's his mother I'm friends > > with and I can't stand to see her hurt. I'm going to quietly fix it. > > I have similar experiences with younger people. It is "Idiocracy" now. The > problem is with smartphones and such in early age (lets say <18) damages > the cognitive functions of the brain. > Are his brother and sister older how old is the guy - just curios. > > ____________________________________________________ Yes they are older. Idiocracy was a great movie and sums him up very well. He's like the guy the protagonist meets when his tube crashes into the apt. A wee bit better spoken though. As for the smart phone thing, it's true. There have been studies. Cheers, Kate

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devicemapper problems.
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 15 Feb '21

15 Feb '21

Hi people (and others) Ok so in order to mount an add on devices like ext HD, I need to run multipath -F to clear mount points. Otherwise it says the mount point is busy. So here's how it goes. I have hotswap bays installed. If take out one drive and insert and other I get the typical msg Unable to mount this device. Potential reasons include: Improper device and/or user privilege level Corrupt data on storage device Technical details: org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.Failed: Error mounting /dev/sdj1 at /media/Preview1: Command-line `mount -t "jfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/sdj1" "/media/Preview1"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /mnt/Preview1: /dev/sdj1 already mounted or mount point busy. Then, as root, I run multipath -F and all it good. It just started doing this, this morning? Anything I should look for? Kate

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kmail fonts suddenly fubar
by Gene Heskett 05 Feb '21

05 Feb '21

Greetiings all; I normally, because of 86 yo eyes, use a bold font in about every selection of the appearance list. But for several days now, I am stuck at a normal font. It shows the bold ok in the preview line at the bottom, and clickiing apply blinks the selected window text as it refreshes, but its the normal very skinny lines font that is actually used. Any idea what I should check? This happened ay about the same time the composer grew a list of icons on the upper left corner of its screen. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Cant normally shuting down
by chucrut＠disroot.org 04 Feb '21

04 Feb '21

Hello, Sometimes happens that i click to "shut down" button and Trinity shows dialog of closing everything and... it dont shuts down.Also when i click to this button again nothing appears. Devuan Beowulf TDE testing

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spam & untrimmed quotes versus endless whining
by William Morder 04 Feb '21

04 Feb '21

Let's see, I count 6 spam emails, then 8 more (including this one) to complain about spam, failure to trim quotes, general whining, and my own complaint about too much complaining. I have not counted Slavek's emails, because he was acting in his own part. This happens every time, and we waste more words on complaints than the spam that started the thread. Maybe we could just stop doing this? Bill

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No documentation for kMail templates
by J Leslie Turriff 04 Feb '21

04 Feb '21

Can anyone explain the rules for defining templates in kMail? There is no mention of them in the Handbook. I have written a little script called SystemID that prints the following information | openSUSE Leap 15.2 x86_64 | Qt: 3.5.0 | TDE: R14.0.9 | tde-config: 1.0 and added a line at the bottom of the template for emails going to this list: | %SYSTEM="SystemID" but as you see below, only the first line gets written. Also, I'd like to understand how the Quote Indicator string in the Templates tab works; it doesn't behave the way I'd expect. Leslie openSUSE Leap 15.2 x86_64 --

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Trim Quotes
by Felix Miata 03 Feb '21

03 Feb '21

Not trimming quotes down to relevant material is no less bad than quoting spam. Quoting 29 lines to write two words about spamming is unnecessary, even abusive, and no less archive pollution than the spam itself. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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