tde-users August 2021

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No Packages For Bullseye
by jakolineplayer＠tutanota.com 27 Aug '21

27 Aug '21

I'm using Debian 11 Bullseye, I followed the instructions at (https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…) and added the repos to my sources.list file then I imported the GPG key, but running sudo apt-get update gives me error 404 as seen below. Ign:5 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x bullseye InRelease Ign:6 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x bullseye InRelease Err:7 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x bullseye Release 404 Not Found [IP: 37.205.10.16 80] Err:8 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x bullseye Release 404 Not Found [IP: 37.205.10.16 80] Reading package lists... Done I suspect this is from your server's side, could you please fix that?

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problem with sound for bullseye upgrade on amd64: must be root for sound to work on my machine
by James D Freels 26 Aug '21

26 Aug '21

Hello, I am a long-time debian and TDE user, and just recently upgraded my buster amd64 machine to bullseye. As part of this upgrade, I also switch from stable builds to the preliminary stable builds of TDE. For example, tdm-trinity is versioned to read this: 4:14.0.11~pre26-0debian11.0.0+7 . Essentially everything works as expected so far. However, one very nagging problem I currently have is that my sound does not work unless I am rooted. For example, if I issue the command aplay bark.au where bark.au is a snippet sound file of a dog barking, it fails. However, if I issue the command sudo aplay bark.au it works fine. Similar sound playing occurs with any sound-playing app. For example mpg123, vlc, etc., all require a sudo or be logged in as root to work. I have looked all around the WWW to try to find a solution to this problem. The most common solution is to make sure that user ids are in the audio group in the /etc/group configuration file. Of course, I have that, and have confirmed it. This is not a brand new installation after all, but an upgrade. Other common remedies I have tried are to fiddle with the pavucontrol and alsamixer settings. My sound card does not show up in the pavucontrol (pulse doesn't find my sound card), but DOES show up in the alsamixer. I have also looked at the debian sound wiki, and other sources to try to fix this problem. Then, I remembered that I often used this form to learn about debian way back in the days when I first started using debian about 1994 or so. Perhaps I can get some expert help. Maybe a source I can go down a list of troubleshoot to nail this one down. It is obviously a permissions issue (I also looked at device permissions, etc.). I am not sure if this is a debian/11/bullseye problem of a TDE problem, so I have cross-posted this help request to the debian-user mailing list as well (without the TDE information since it is not supported there). Just a bit puzzled and frustrated. P.S. BTW, my sound card is a C-Media, Xonor DG with chip set CMI8788 and uses the oxygen HD audio driver. lspci -v output corresponding: 05:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio] Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. CMI8786 (Xonar DG) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 22, NUMA node 0 I/O ports at e800 [size=256] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 Kernel driver in use: snd_oxygen Kernel modules: snd_oxygen Nothing has changed with the hardware, and I know the setup works. This seems to be a permissions/software issue. -- James D. Freels, Ph.D., P.E. freelsjd(a)gmail.com 865-457-6742 (landline) 865-919-0320 (cell)

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Re: problem with sound for bullseye upgrade on amd64: must be root for sound to work on my machine
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 25 Aug '21

25 Aug '21

Hi! Anno domini 2021 Tue, 24 Aug 19:59:07 -0400 James D Freels scripsit: > yes, my user id, fea, is in the audio group. > > Also, per your request: > > groups > users mail cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev bluetooth > lpadmin scanner pulse Debian-exim plex mlocate vtune nogroup > > ls -l /dev/snd > > > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 400 Aug 23 21:15 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 25 root root 5340 Aug 24 15:55 ../ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 60 Aug 23 21:15 by-id/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 100 Aug 23 21:15 by-path/ > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 15 Aug 23 21:15 controlC0 > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 3 Aug 23 21:15 controlC1 > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 10 Aug 23 21:15 controlC2 > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 9 Aug 23 21:15 hwC2D0 > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 12 Aug 23 21:15 pcmC0D0c > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 11 Aug 23 21:15 pcmC0D0p > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 14 Aug 23 21:15 pcmC0D1c > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 13 Aug 23 21:15 pcmC0D1p > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 2 Aug 23 22:00 pcmC1D0c > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 8 Aug 23 21:59 pcmC2D10p > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 4 Aug 23 21:59 pcmC2D3p > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 5 Aug 23 21:59 pcmC2D7p > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 6 Aug 23 21:59 pcmC2D8p > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 7 Aug 23 21:59 pcmC2D9p > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 1 Aug 23 21:15 seq > crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 33 Aug 23 21:15 timer > > thanks. any further ideas ? > > On 8/24/21 4:31 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > $ groups > > $ ls -l /dev/snd > OK. is apparmour installed? Does "dmesg" show something when you try to ply sound as user? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Installing TDE on a KDE system.
by Γιώργος Κωστόπουλος 25 Aug '21

25 Aug '21

Hi! :-) I installed lately at one of my systems, a fresh Devuan installation with KDE (stable ver. Beowulf, x64, fully updated). Then I tried installing the latest TDE (the official way). At my 1st try (after installing and updating the GPG DEB package), I tried (via Synaptic), installing the tdebase-trinity package, but Synaptic refused and aborted, indicating broken packages and dependencies. OK. I closed it and opened Konsole -> went root (su -) and I tried apt (apt install tdebase-trinity). This time TDE installed properly, but KDE installation was removed altogether (with the exception of some packages (like SDDM)). I'm perfectly good with it, and I already (after backing it up), formatted and reinstalled Devuan without any desktop this time and I installed TDE on it. Just out of curiosity, is it possible to install TDE alongside with KDE? TIA! :-) Giorgos.

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tde-mirror-01 upcoming Maintenance
by Michael 25 Aug '21

25 Aug '21

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Installing Trinity on Ubuntu
by danapple＠danapple.com 22 Aug '21

22 Aug '21

In order to upgrade Trinity Desktop from R14.0.6 to R14.0.10, I have attempted to follow the instructions on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst… However, I get this error in synaptic: The repository 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x ubuntu Release' does not have a Release file.Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.The repository 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x ubuntu Release' does not have a Release file. I have tried adding the list in /etc/apt/sources.list and have switched to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity-ubuntu-bionic.list which results in the same error. The lines, as inserted, read: deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x ubuntu main deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x ubuntu main I have also tried to replace .x with .10 with the same results. I did "Import GPG signing key" Any ideas? Sincerely, Daniel.

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SDD puzzle
by dep 20 Aug '21

20 Aug '21

Hi, everybody! (I hope you hear Dr. Nick's voice when you read this line.) My SDD boot . . . isn't booting. Here's how it unfolded: I popped the side off the case so as to install a couple of top-facing exhaust fans, controlled by the motherboard, bring the total case fan count to five (two intake, three exhaust), because with that many fans none ever really spins up, so the computer is next to silent. That's all I did in there. I came nowhere near anything having to do with any of the drives. When I fired up the computer again I got the usual GRUB menu, the second item of which was the 20.04-LTS installation on /dev/sdc1. I chose it. And it booted forthwith -- to the 20.04-LTS installation on /dev/sda1. No errors, nothing. Just booted the wrong drive. The SDD (sdc) is working fine -- I can mount it, navigate in it, read and write to it. Any troubleshooting ideas that don't involve disassembly? This was working fine yesterday and isn't today. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Speak of the devil . . .
by dep 20 Aug '21

20 Aug '21

I did a regular softrware update on my boot drive -- the SSD at /dev/sdc1 -- and got this: Configuration file '/etc/grub.d/10_linux' ==> Deleted (by you or by a script) since installation. ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions Z : start a shell to examine the situation The default action is to keep your current version. *** 10_linux (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? I did "D" but have no clue as to what is right here. After looking at it for a few minutes and ending up no more enlightened than I was when I started, I kept the default. The first line of the thing is +# grub-mkconfig helper script. It contains things such as +# Default to disabling partition uuid support to maintian compatibility with +# older kernels. +GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_PARTUUID=${GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_PARTUUID-true} Ought I have let it install? It seems a bad idea, but that is totally a guess. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Fwd: Re: Debian 11 released
by Edward 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

/Apparently, my emails from Caramail/GMX aren't making it to the list, so I've subscribed using a different e-mail. I hope this resolves whatever the issue is/was.// // //This e-mail was sent earlier this afternoon via Caramail/GMX and never made it to the list./ -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [tde-users] Re: Debian 11 released Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 12:47:48 -0400 From: Edward To: users(a)trinitydesktop.org On 8/18/21 8:19 AM, deloptes wrote: > Edward wrote: > >>> Debian has released version 11, bullseye. Should the current TDE >>> (buster) packages work with bullseye until the packages are updated? >>> >>> Thanks. >> Confirming the TDE desktop (buster) came up fine, after upgrading Debian >> to bullseye. > It is not recommended to use packages compiled for buster on the bullseye. > While most of the code would work, there is no guarantee that things > are not > broken. > You better use TDE for bullseye instead (replace buster with bullseye in > your source.list). This is what I've done, I'm now using the stable preliminary builds of the TDE packages for Bullseye. I commented out the original repo lines for Buster in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Ed -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.11-pre - Debian: 11 (amd64)

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Re: Debian 11 released
by Edward 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

On 8/16/21 3:55 AM, Michele Calgaro wrote: > On 2021/08/16 12:36:08 AM, Edward wrote: >> On 8/15/21 10:15 AM, Edward wrote: >>> Debian has released version 11, bullseye. Should the current TDE >>> (buster) packages work with bullseye until the packages are updated? >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> Confirming the TDE desktop (buster) came up fine, after upgrading Debian >> to bullseye. >> >> > > Hi Edward, > you could use PSB packages for bullseye ;-) so you also get rolling > updates of the changes > that will go into the next release. > > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds Hi Michele, Thank you for this information. I went this route and added the lines to apt/etc/sources.list. Apt successfully retrieved and installed the R14.0.11-pre packages and it also resolved the binutils issue. The first desktop is working perfectly. I will do the same on my other desktop. The original 'buster' entries for 14.0.10 were left as they were in the sources.list file. Ed -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.11-pre - Debian: 11 (amd64)

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