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Did the name "Trinity" have anything to do with the Christian "holy trinity"?
by nabrious＠icloud.com 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

I understand that the name was picked due to the desktop being a fork of KDE 3, but even on the website -> https://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php: "The name Trinity was chosen partly because the word means "three" and TDE was a continuation of KDE 3. TDE now is its own computer desktop environment project." It says that the name was picked only *partly* due to the word meaning three, so what was the other reason/part? Is it the Christian trinity? Also the reason I think that the desktop was named after the Christian trinity is the fact it has a first-party, pre-installed Bible study app called Bible Time "bibletime" Just really curious, hopefully someone has the full answer (preferably the founder himself lol).

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AOL chat server replica in the wild?
by Andrew Randrianasulu 23 Jan '25

23 Jan '25

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=taDOa2zIhlo "Open-source instant messaging server that makes classic AIM and ICQ clients work again." in Go .... https://github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-server

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Server for Arch Linux packages down
by John P. Willis 20 Jan '25

20 Jan '25

See following output: :: Synchronizing package databases... core 116.1 KiB 726 KiB/s 00:00 [######################] 100% extra 7.5 MiB 11.3 MiB/s 00:01 [######################] 100% multilib 130.8 KiB 1721 KiB/s 00:00 [######################] 100% trinity.db failed to download error: failed retrieving file 'trinity.db' from mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org : Connection timed out after 10002 milliseconds error: failed to synchronize all databases (download library error) -> error refreshing databases - exit status 1

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Persistent KMail issue
by dep 15 Jan '25

15 Jan '25

Greets, everybody . . . I've hesitated to bring this up because I'm doing something that I think is not supported by anyone involved. But maybe I'm just missing something simple, so I thought I'd ask. I beg your forbearance, because the explanation is long. I use ProtonMail. PrnotMail offers an application-filter thing called ProtonBridge; without it one is stuck with Proton's webmail, which is a pain for many reasons, not least that it's impossible to reply to a message at the bottom. ProtonBridge is a fairly large thing that does the encryption/decryption of outgong/incoming messages respectively. Instead of having an actual address for the mail server, Bridge requires we use 127.0.0.1. and port 1143 for incoming and 1025 for outgoing. Fine so far. The Bridge was released about five years ago. I set it up and it worked just fine, allowing me to keep an email archive here on the local machine, as well as otherwise use KMail as I have for lo, these many years. Then a couple years ago things began to go pearshaped from time to time. I would receive pop-up KMail errors that KMail could not mark the message as read, couldn't write to the server. As I have mentioned before, it began to get double listings for incoming messages, the first blank. Making it maddening is that there's no consistency to it. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't, in both cases. I keep my software up to date, including TDE and ProtonBridge. I cannot point to the exact time it began. At about the same time, everytime I opened KMail I couldn't do anything until it downloaded every message I had receiced since forever. I normally read and respond to messages, then move them to the appropriate ones among a miltitude of maildir directories I keep here, and for the longest time that was the end of it, but there was a change that caused those messages to be downloaded anew the next time I started KMail. In that only Thunderbird is supported in Linux by ProtonBridge, I just lived with it. Then, relatively recently, KMail began to crash. I've filed the occasional KMail crash report -- btw, the crash report server needs to renew its certificate. The crashes typically happen when KMail is running minimized, which I customarily do so I don't have to d/l every email since Genesis every time I use it. I suspect it's some configuration thing with KMail that I have wrong -- not that much to configure with the Bridge -- possibly a permissions issue or something. What makes it all the more maddening is that it works most of the time. When a few days ago KMail threw the error that it couldn't write to te server, I sent the report to Proton. As usual, they replied promptly. As usual, the reply wasn't of much help, to wit: "Currently, we are testing Bridge on Outlook, Apple Mail, and Thunderbird. Other clients should also be compatible but we cannot guarantee that all of the features will work properly, as this largely depends on the implementation of the IMAP and SMTP protocols in that client. "You read about this in detail on the link below: https://proton.me/support/clients-supported-bridge " I'd really like to sort this out, but I do not know enough about mail handling to know even where to begin to look. I renamed my top-level mail directory (~/Mail, created when I was using KDE-1.0 and with messages going back that far) and letting it start anew, but there was no improvement. I shall continue to use ProtonMail and would very much like to continuing to use KMail-Trinity. But I kinda hate this. Anybody know the solution? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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To give a sense of how far this goes back . . .
by dep 13 Jan '25

13 Jan '25

. . . I just scrolled to the first of the 35,155 messages I have archived in my KDE-Users mail directory and found this: [q] Help with install Date: Sun Oct 18 13:41:33 1998 From: "Julia's Mail" <ourhome(a)globalnet.co.uk> To: KDE general mailing list <kde(a)lists.netcentral.net> Reply to: kde(a)lists.netcentral.net I have loaded RedHat 5.1, upgraded it to 5.2 and installed qt-1.40. When I try to install KDE (kdelib) from the RPM files I get a message that qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdelibs-1.0-7rh51, and qt-egce-10x is needed by kdelibs-1.0-7rh51. Did I miss a step? If you can think of a way to fix this I would be grateful. :) Mark -- Send posts to: kde(a)lists.netcentral.net [/q] So these directories have survived a *lot* of upgrades. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Offtopic: kde1 might be not dead
by Andrew Randrianasulu 13 Jan '25

13 Jan '25

some week ago interesting post was made to r/linux https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1htnhwq/software_left_in_nostalgial… someone trying to fit kde1 codebase on top of forked qt2 codebase ;) with png support backported from Trinity's qt3 fork ;) So, well, thanks everyone again, long live lightweight desktop!

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The sound mess, etc.
by dep 10 Jan '25

10 Jan '25

Greetings, everybody, and happy 2025 even though the start to the year does not seem promising in many places. Digging through issues one by one here. Am using the desktop more after having gotten a TKL (SSK in IBM parlance) Model M from Unicomp. I have a couple of genuine IBM SSKs, but they have become to valuable to use. The Unicomp reissue is if anything better, and I love it. But I digress. I'm running Debian Trixie and TDE-almost-ready (I don't remember what TDE testing is called, but I'm running the not-bleeding-edge testing version, the middle one). I've discovered that sound doesn't work on my machine. I imagine that this comes down to Pipewire, the Wayland of sound. (No, I do not use Wayland. Playing pioneer in Linux was a hoot 25 years ago; now I just want the damn machine to work.) When setting up a couple of Rspberry Pi5s as television sets last year, I got no sound until I nuked Pipewire entirely, which I haven't done here on the desktop yet. KMix seems in order. I have gone everywhere I could find to set the audio to the built-in audio -- the system seems desperate to give me HDMI audio, but I have no HDMI audio. At the moment, I have no audio of any sort, but at least I have the hardware for non-HDMI audio. pulseaudio -v renders this: I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted I: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Successfully gained nice level -11. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: This is PulseAudio 17.0 I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Page size is 4096 bytes I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Machine ID is 5319a42264b14252b3e0bc50dadf9032. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Session ID is 4. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using runtime directory /run/user/1000/pulse. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using state directory /home/dep/.pulse. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using modules directory /usr/lib/pulse-17.0+dfsg1/modules. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode: no E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. When I check the sound system page in KControl, all seems fine. System restarts uneventfully. Everything seems to work except sound coming from the speakers. I'm out of guesses. Advice? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Is Bluetooth free?
by lee892533＠gmail.com 09 Jan '25

09 Jan '25

Yes, the songs are transmitted to your headphones, but that's over a paired Bluetooth connection between the headphone and the phone. And there's no cost to that. You only pay for the data transmitted to your smart device over the phone company's network by way of using the app. https://spacebarcounter.org

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Website Down?
by Chris M 08 Jan '25

08 Jan '25

When trying to go to the installation instructions I am getting a white webpage with text that says: Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot access the database) -- Chris

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Notification popup size
by Darrell Anderson 08 Jan '25

08 Jan '25

R14.1.2. I am not using kdbusnotification. The default notification daemon is xfce4. In TDE the notification popups are tiny. They look fine when using Xfce4. Any ideas to resolve? Thanks.

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