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And on Friday the 13th, too!
by dep 14 Sep '24

14 Sep '24

Happy and stunned to say that the de-Ubuntu-ization has been going better than I had any right to expect. The whole setting up of "sudo" was a pain -- not stuff you're likely to remember when you do it once every many years -- and some various flaky stuff. Otoh, the easiest nvidia driver install in history, so I'll take it. Many, many things I expected to be hell to reconfigure . . . made it through the switch. My background is xplanet, as always, with a high-res moon picture that I see has a timestamp of Dec. 26, 1998 -- I seem to be set in my ways. One surprise is that may be a bug. In the reduced version of the preview TDE, KMenu does not seem to be installed by default. I do not know whether that was intentional -- can't imagine it would be -- but unless one knows to go to the panel applets and find and put it on Kicker, there's no application menu. Now, a question: Where is the Basket note pads application for TDE? Has its name changed? It is one of those applications out with which I cannot do. (Clear back to DOS, when I was addicted to InfoSelect -- indeed, many of the notes there were transferred from InfoSelect to something else inferior on Linux before Basket came along.) Is there a version, for TDE, someplace? Related, what's a good repository browser? I've used Synaptic for the 20 years I used Kubuntu, and, well, Ubuntu. Anybody have recommendations? Thanks! -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Stupid key question
by dep 13 Sep '24

13 Sep '24

So, before trying the correct method (which is strangely made difficult by my maching now refusing to boot from USB for no reason I can find), I thought I would try to switch to Debian via a strange recipe that probably won't work: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/344408/migrate-from-ubuntu-to-debi… Problem is the Debian pubkey, which does not exist on my machine. The keyring stuff in the recipe does not, best I can tell, resemble current reality. Of course, without it the whole apt-get business explodes in a cloud of unsignedness. Anybody know where I can get the Debian pubkey? dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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how to find & format a lost SSD?
by William Morder 10 Sep '24

10 Sep '24

My internal 2 tb SSD has suddenly become "locked"; even though I myself didn't lock it. The good people at Mc$haft started nagging me about enabling UEFI partitioning, but I had managed to get round that by using grub instead. Now, however, that 2 tb SSD will not mount at all as a separate drive. When I try to boot from a Devuan installation USB, that works just fine, as usual ... *unless* that 2 tb USB is present in the system. I get a window asking for a password to unlock it. I never set a password for this SSD, nor an admin password (for the boot process) until the system started asking me to set one. I did manage to back up all the data on that SSD before this happened, but now I can only boot the system from a 250 gb USB, where I have installed my Devuan system, with root, swap and home partitions, and it runs nearly perfectly, just like always ... or usually always, until crap like this happens. This SSD I bought specially to put in the laptop in order to replace the factory-installed 128 gb SSD. The original factory SSD will only boot into Mc$haft's registration process. This newer SSD, where for the past couple years I have had my system installed, been running fine, will not boot at all. When it is present at boot, I cannot boot an installation USB or disc, cannot boot a repair disc, cannot even boot my home partition (the one now installed on the USB) if that 2 tb USB is present. I tried a sort of dangerous hardware hack, which was to open up the laptop, and hotplug the 2 tb SSD, just to see if the system would recognize it. So here is (are) my question(s): Can I get the system to recognize this 2 tb SSD. It is plugged in, but doesn't appear? Do I need to buy some sort of gadget (an enclosure or something?) so that I can plug in the SSD as if it were a USB drive? Can I somehow reformat this 2 tb SSD without buying more stuff? Any help will be appreciated! Bill

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Regarding setting wallpapers on multiple virtual desktops
by riru 09 Sep '24

09 Sep '24

Hello, I've been trying to set different slideshow wallpapers with hue shift blending on my virtual desktops (I currently have 4). But, for some reason, when switching to the first virtual desktop, I notice a bit of lag before Trinity switches to it. I don't know how are wallpapers managed internally on Trinity but that seems like it's trying to reload the wallpaper again or something? By the way, I'm new to the this mailing list, actually I've never written to one before, if I've missed any kind of netiquette or something like that please let me know. Cheers.

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Partitioning advice sought
by dep 04 Sep '24

04 Sep '24

Hi, everybody . . . The time has come to say goodbye to Ubuntu once and for all. The spyware, security updates being held hostage, and inescapable attachment to the proprietary snap packages were bad enough. The new version of ProtonVPN doesn't work on Ubuntu 20.04, the last marginally acceptable version. So Debian looms. I'm trying to make it easier by replacing the mess of hard drives with a single 16-tb Toshiba enterprise drive. The plan is to install Debian on it, then copy /home, etc., to it. The old drives will then be backups. (I also have a 10-tb drive devitoted to pictures; that drive, too, will go into the backup safe.) The last time I did anything like this, a few years ago, it involved a peculiar recipe that, fortunately, doesn't apply now. And I realize that I've never done a straight install of a big drive to an EFI system. So. First, I'm trying to remember how to do a fill low-level check of the drive, to knock out any bad sectors, etc. I don't think GParted does it. Second, I'm trying to figure out how to best partition the thing, to get it to boot properly. I know there needs to be a dinky FAT32 partition someplace. What I don't know is where it should be and what size it should be. After that I'll have a non-home partition and a /home partition, as well as /swap. Is there any new thought as to the ideal size of the swap partition? Machine has 32 gigs of memory, and I do not keep a huge number of applications open at once, but I will have a lot of drive space. Any settled preference as to the location of the swap partition? (I remember that in OS/2 the rule was the most-used partition of the least-used drive. Speaking of which, there's a small walk down OS/2 memory lane here: https://ofb.biz/safari/article/1240.html ) It would be pretty straightforward but for the wad of stuff up top re. EFI, big drive, etc., with which I have next-to-no experience. Advice? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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More: Trying to install Trinity 14.1
by Jonesy via trinity-users 03 Sep '24

03 Sep '24

I'm back again -- both with a new list subscription and my ongoing Trinity install attempt. Ive added the PPAs for my Ubuntu 24.04 and did the agt-get install without seeing any errors. I did the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity with the following output: jonesy@nix6:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity Upstart is not active - masking initctl Adding 'local diversion of /sbin/initctl to /sbin/initctl.distrib' Removing 'local diversion of /sbin/initctl to /sbin/initctl.distrib' jonesy@nix6:~$ .. which means nothing to me. ??? Anyway, when I reboot, I am presented with a login screen whose background claims "kubuntu" "Powered by Trinity" huh??? kunbuntu? So, I complete the login, and I AM PRESENTED WITH THE GNOME DESKTOP. No doubt it's a snafu on my part. But where do I start looking? Thanks in advance! Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ.net | linux 38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | FreeBSD --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Somewhat OT: How To (re)join these users and devel lists?
by Jonesy via trinity-users 02 Sep '24

02 Sep '24

My gmane access to these lists has almost devolved into a read-only situation. It seems I can do a new post -- as I did successfully yesterday "Subject: Trying to install Trinity 14.1" .. to which I received a accurate and polite answer. However, when I tried to do a followup for a "Thank You!" (twice I tried), I see there was no posting of THAT item. My gmane access date back to the _OLD_ gmane.org days and I have no memory of how my subscription has been carried forward to what I'm having trouble with today. Searching the web, and https://trinitydesktop.org/ , and the https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/ website yields no results for how to join the lists. Just how does one get on to the users and devel Trinity discussion lists? I wish to do it with a much cleaner, less convoluted email addy and profile. (As you can see, my email addy was setup for the bad ol' days when usenet was a harvest location for spammers.) Thanks! Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ.net | linux 38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | FreeBSD * Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Trying to install Trinity 14.1
by Jonesy via trinity-users 02 Sep '24

02 Sep '24

I'm trying to install Trinity 14.1 on my brand new Ubuntu 20.04 Gnome(ugh) pc. I have the ppa(s) set up in /etc/apt/sources.list.d : deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> main deps deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> main deps I did the import of the GPG signing key. Doing a $ sudo apt-get update gives me this: : : : Ign:5 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> InRelease Err:6 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> Release 404 Not Found [IP: 37.205.10.16 80] Reading package lists... Done E: The repository 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> Release' does not have a Release file. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. Huh? Looking in Index of /trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x/dists/noble/ I see both InRelease _and_ Release files Thnks for any help! I really, Really, REALLY want to be shed of this &^#(*&^%$@ Gnome! Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ.net | linux 38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | FreeBSD * Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Trying to install Trinity 14.1
by Jonesy via trinity-users 01 Sep '24

01 Sep '24

I'm trying to install Trinity 14.1 on my brand new Ubuntu 20.04 Gnome(ugh) pc. I have the ppa(s) set up in /etc/apt/sources.list.d : deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> main deps deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> main deps I did the import of the GPG signing key. Doing a $ sudo apt-get update gives me this: : : : Ign:5 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> InRelease Err:6 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> Release 404 Not Found [IP: 37.205.10.16 80] Reading package lists... Done E: The repository 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x <noble> Release' does not have a Release file. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. Huh? Looking in Index of /trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x/dists/noble/ I see both InRelease _and_ Release files Thnks for any help! I reall, Really, REALLY want to be shed of this &^#(*&^%$@ Gnome! Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ.net | linux 38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | FreeBSD * Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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TDM not passing login information?
by Darrell Anderson 29 Aug '24

29 Aug '24

I'm looking for confirmation about whether TDM passes login information to the operating system. For me the who, w, and last commands do not show any tty logins when using TDM. The who, w, and last commands function as expected with SDDM, showing tty logins. (pts logins are irrelevant.) Also, are there any specific tdmrc options that might cause this? Thanks.

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