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Trinity on OpenBSD?
by Hawke R 22 Dec '18

22 Dec '18

Greetings, I have been very happy to be using Trinity for the past year. Though not a Debian fan, at least Trinity has given me back the much more productive KDE3 experience (compared to other DE's), and has run very well. So much better than the other DEs. I see that there was an announcement of a partial port to FreeBSD in 2016. Has anyone made any effort, or better yet had any success, with getting Trinity running on OpenBSD? Is it even remotely possible for an end-user to make the existing source work on OBSD? Or is it only possible if developers put in the effort? I have setup a VM with OBSD to try, but before wading in would appreciate knowing if it is even remotely possible and any pointers for resources to get started doing so on OBSD. Thanks kindly! -Hawke

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tdenetworkmanager
by Kate Draven 21 Dec '18

21 Dec '18

Hi people I can't get tdenetworkmanager to connect as user. I can't see any config difference between the other machines. This is that thinkpad t60 I'm having trouble with (eth0 onboard works but the dock doesn't) Thanks Kate

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1080p Theme recommendation?
by Michael 21 Dec '18

21 Dec '18

Built a new system with a 22” 1080p monitor. The shipped TDE themes are basically non-readable at that resolution [1]. Text appears about like a 4 pt font size on the Window title, Tool/Task bar, Menu, ... Wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a theme they like that they use on a 1080p setup. (Link to where to download it hugely helpful.) Thanks, Michael [1] The YellowOnBlue-big has readable titles, but menus are so big they go off screen.

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] and one thing more
by Kate Draven 19 Dec '18

19 Dec '18

> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, dep wrote: > > > said SlÃ¡vek Banko: > > | On Sunday 09 of December 2018 03:45:28 dep wrote: > > | > when i try to start firefox: > > | > > > | > dep@dep-desktop:~$ firefox > > | > > > | > (firefox:2619): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ > > | > 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported > > | > ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 2627 > > | > ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to > > | > child ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue > > | > signal... > > | > > > | > (crashreporter:2632): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using > > | > GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported > > | > > > | > again, nothing changed in either software or configuration. > > | > > > | > this is very, very weird. > > | > -- > > | > dep > > | > > > | > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. Because privacy matters. > > | > > | Are you sure that you do not have the kgtk-qt3-trinity installed? > > what is the problem with kgtk-q3-trinity? I installed it today and it > made for sanity in Firefox and Pan. > > fjd > > -- > Felmon Davis Sorry I didn't understand. You installed kgtk-q3-trinity and it messed up FF and Pan? Kate

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Re: How to install NVIDIA driver?
by Michael 18 Dec '18

18 Dec '18

Cross posting from Devuan list, as I know others here use Devuan. I'm either still too new there to post? Or they use some hidden moderation on top of mailing list confirmation? Or the admin is on vacation this week? *shrug* don't know, 5 posts disappeared into an active list, apologies for bothering those TDE'ers not on Devuan. Michael. On Monday 17 December 2018 05:49:22 pm Michael wrote: > Hi All, > > [Minimal install, Devuan ASCII w/ Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE)] > > I’m trying to install NVIDIA drivers for a GTX 1060. I’m basically > following the Debian instructions [1], modified for Devuan and got to the > last step, which error-ed out. The summary of the error is: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > nvidia-driver : PreDepends: nvidia-installer-cleanup but it is not > installable > > I’d also like someone to check if I’ve modified sources.list correctly. > > Full command line output and error message below: After further investigation, the missing package is in Debian 9 (Stretch) Contrib: https://pkgs.org/download/nvidia-installer-cleanup I tried adding 'contrib' to the end of sources, which worked for 'non-free,' but doesn't seem to work for contrib. So... What is the corresponding Devuan repository for Debian Contrib? If there isn't one, what are the issues with installing the .deb (nvidia-installer-cleanup_20151021+4_amd64.deb) from the above link? Thanks, Michael > [1] https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers > > > root@local [/etc/apt]# lspci -nn | egrep -i "3d|display|vga" > 2e:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP106 [GeForce > GTX 1060 6GB] [10de:1c03] (rev a1) > > > *Same error whether or not you use backports > root@local [/etc/apt]# apt-get install -t ascii-backports nvidia-driver > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > nvidia-driver : PreDepends: nvidia-installer-cleanup but it is not > installable > PreDepends: nvidia-legacy-check (>= 343) but it is not > going to be installed > Depends: nvidia-driver-libs (= 390.87-4~bpo9+1) but it is > not going to be installed or > nvidia-driver-libs-nonglvnd (= 390.87-4~bpo9+1) > but it is not going to be installed > Depends: nvidia-driver-bin (= 390.87-4~bpo9+1) but it is > not going to be installed > Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (= 390.87-4~bpo9+1) but > it is not going to be installed > Depends: nvidia-vdpau-driver (= 390.87-4~bpo9+1) but it is > not going to be installed > Depends: nvidia-alternative (= 390.87-4~bpo9+1) but it is > not going to be installed > Depends: nvidia-kernel-dkms (= 390.87-4~bpo9+1) but it is > not going to be installed or > nvidia-kernel-390.87 > Depends: nvidia-support but it is not installable > Recommends: nvidia-settings (>= 390) but it is not > installable > Recommends: nvidia-persistenced but it is not installable > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > > > root@local [/etc/apt]# ll /etc/X11/xorg.conf > ls: cannot access '/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory > > > > root@local [/etc/apt]# cat sources.list > # > > # deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1]/ ascii main non-free > # deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1]/ ascii main non-free > > deb http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free > deb-src http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free > > > deb http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free > deb-src http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free > > deb http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free > deb-src http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free > > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main non-free > deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main non-free > > > ## Trinity - TDE R14.0.5 > deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian > stretch main > deb > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi >an stretch main > deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian > stretch main > deb-src > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi >an stretch main

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Trying to unsubscribe
by joegum＠joegum.com 15 Dec '18

15 Dec '18

I'm sorry for posting this to the list. I have been trying to unsubscribe for about a month with no luck. The emails were directed to the unsubscribe address provided. The word unsubscribe was included in both the Subject and Body of the emails. Is there some other way to unsubscribe?

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trinitydesktop.org down?
by Michael 15 Dec '18

15 Dec '18

I'm getting: Error 503 Service Unavailable Apache/2.4.25 (Debian) Server at www.trinitydesktop.org Port 80 Is Timothy okay? Best, Michael

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: New Thread: USB Hard drive not being recognized after first plug out.
by Kate Draven 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

> On Tuesday 11 December 2018 18:12:00 Kate Draven wrote: > > > > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > If you are a "luck" person and you run Windooz10, then you find > > > > that this multi gadget protocol is broken since ~ 1 year ... hail > > > > progress! > > > > > > don't know why corp is doing windows - I think it is pure burning of > > > money ... I got one v10 few months ago and it is still laying on my > > > desk unused. > > > But I have no idea how this is working with cameras there. The corp > > > is paying for it to stay there on the desk and do some work. It is > > > doing it more or less good on its own. I alaways have to repeat > > > myself what Linuz Torvald said about it - something like a very good > > > company, but the problem is they make crappy software. > > > So ... times go by and some things never change - amazing. > > > > > > > At least on *nix you can fix stuff like this, even when redhat > > > > tries hard to break it. > > > > > > Well for the Windows, you have the windows admin - a person that > > > should be admired for the skill to support "crappy software" :) and > > > keep the universe in balance :) > > > Honestly ... no idea how those guys have the patience. I had to > > > factory restore one PC lately for a friend, because it got unusable > > > after 6y of use ... I think it took 8h or more to install all the > > > updates or at least to try to ... with numerous reboots in between. > > > I have not done this for years and it was impressive experience. In > > > the mean time I could do a lot of work on the linux PC that was > > > installed 15y ago. Amazing! > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > > Cheers Doc & deloptes, well observed, well said. > > > > Several mates went out of business supporting Vista, > > Now, a few more are close to closing because of win10. > > > > All I get at the shop are people bring in there machines to have data > > recovered after win8/10 died during an update (not so much win7). > > > > I don't know how MS stays in business. > > > > The os on this laptop, that I'm writing this email on, will be retired > > soon for Alistair Izzard's big daddy roll of PCLOS 64bit. Thank you > > very much Ali and to all. > > > > The OS is Ark Linux 2008. It's more than 10 years old and it has > > served me well, great infact. It took 7 years to find a replacement. > > > > Any linux, even a bad one, is always better than the best windows > > edition (or OSX but not to the same shocking degree). > > > > > > Kate > > > > > Very well said Kate. Theres a reason I don't allow a windows box to keep > its windows install more than a day or so, any longer and my patience > gets exchanged for a 16 lb maul to put its hard drive out of its misery. > Or a linux dvd gets put in along with a $40 60 gig SSD, getting a > machine thats obviously faster, and its by by windows, it has not been > good knowing you. Life for me at least, is not long enough to put up > with that crappy software. > > FWIW, I ran PCLOS for a while, but if what you need is not in the repo, > forget about asking for it. Just a warning, but thats why I had to bail > to Debian. I can usually get what I need. They, like others are short of > man power, but I've not been told to go pound sand either. > > Take care Kate. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Gene! It's likely your problem with pclos was it was 32bit. pclos doesn't support 32bit anymore, not for a long time. I think since 2015 or 16. I have me test machines, data recovery machines, laptops and server all running Ali's Big Daddy rolls. It works great. The only thing I don't like and it happens TDE under any distro. It's the constant reloading of the gui when I install software. I don't understand why it does that. Bug? Kate

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: New Thread: USB Hard drive not being recognized after first plug out.
by Kate Draven 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

> On Wednesday 12 December 2018 02:09:26 Kate Draven wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 11 December 2018 18:12:00 Kate Draven wrote: > > > > > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > > > If you are a "luck" person and you run Windooz10, then you > > > > > > find that this multi gadget protocol is broken since ~ 1 year > > > > > > ... hail progress! > > > > > > > > > > don't know why corp is doing windows - I think it is pure > > > > > burning of money ... I got one v10 few months ago and it is > > > > > still laying on my desk unused. > > > > > But I have no idea how this is working with cameras there. The > > > > > corp is paying for it to stay there on the desk and do some > > > > > work. It is doing it more or less good on its own. I alaways > > > > > have to repeat myself what Linuz Torvald said about it - > > > > > something like a very good company, but the problem is they make > > > > > crappy software. > > > > > So ... times go by and some things never change - amazing. > > > > > > > > > > > At least on *nix you can fix stuff like this, even when redhat > > > > > > tries hard to break it. > > > > > > > > > > Well for the Windows, you have the windows admin - a person that > > > > > should be admired for the skill to support "crappy software" :) > > > > > and keep the universe in balance :) > > > > > Honestly ... no idea how those guys have the patience. I had to > > > > > factory restore one PC lately for a friend, because it got > > > > > unusable after 6y of use ... I think it took 8h or more to > > > > > install all the updates or at least to try to ... with numerous > > > > > reboots in between. I have not done this for years and it was > > > > > impressive experience. In the mean time I could do a lot of work > > > > > on the linux PC that was installed 15y ago. Amazing! > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >---- - > > > > > > > > Cheers Doc & deloptes, well observed, well said. > > > > > > > > Several mates went out of business supporting Vista, > > > > Now, a few more are close to closing because of win10. > > > > > > > > All I get at the shop are people bring in there machines to have > > > > data recovered after win8/10 died during an update (not so much > > > > win7). > > > > > > > > I don't know how MS stays in business. > > > > > > > > The os on this laptop, that I'm writing this email on, will be > > > > retired soon for Alistair Izzard's big daddy roll of PCLOS 64bit. > > > > Thank you very much Ali and to all. > > > > > > > > The OS is Ark Linux 2008. It's more than 10 years old and it has > > > > served me well, great infact. It took 7 years to find a > > > > replacement. > > > > > > > > Any linux, even a bad one, is always better than the best windows > > > > edition (or OSX but not to the same shocking degree). > > > > > > > > > > > > Kate > > > > > > Very well said Kate. Theres a reason I don't allow a windows box to > > > keep its windows install more than a day or so, any longer and my > > > patience gets exchanged for a 16 lb maul to put its hard drive out > > > of its misery. Or a linux dvd gets put in along with a $40 60 gig > > > SSD, getting a machine thats obviously faster, and its by by > > > windows, it has not been good knowing you. Life for me at least, is > > > not long enough to put up with that crappy software. > > > > > > FWIW, I ran PCLOS for a while, but if what you need is not in the > > > repo, forget about asking for it. Just a warning, but thats why I > > > had to bail to Debian. I can usually get what I need. They, like > > > others are short of man power, but I've not been told to go pound > > > sand either. > > > > > > Take care Kate. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >--- > > > > Hi Gene! > > > > It's likely your problem with pclos was it was 32bit. > > pclos doesn't support 32bit anymore, not for a long time. > > I think since 2015 or 16. > > > > I have me test machines, data recovery machines, laptops and server > > all running Ali's Big Daddy rolls. It works great. > > > > The only thing I don't like and it happens TDE under any distro. It's > > the constant reloading of the gui when I install software. I don't > > understand why it does that. Bug? > > > > Kate > > > No clue my dear girl Kate. Best I could do would still be a WAG. I do > expect it to reformulate the gui's menu's, but the sort does fail > occasionally. And it should force a reboot when libs are being > replaced, that bit me 4 days back, crash/locked this machine and the > machine I was logged into working on some gcode, had to dress and hit > the shop building in 20F weather to reboot that one too, else amanda > would have pestered be because it couldn't do the backup. Like Jackie > Gleason was fond of saying, what a revoltin development that was. ;-) > > Take care Kate. > > -- > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- That sounded like a big mess. Kate PS I LOVE the Honeymooners. It's more popular now that then. Of course with nothing but rubbish on the telli....

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Re: New Thread: USB Hard drive not being recognized after first plug out.
by Kate Draven 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018 schrieb deloptes: > > Kate Draven wrote: > > > > > I don't know how MS stays in business. > > > > Bribery at gov/corp level and stupidity at user level > > +1 > > And the old "wisdom" of users: "it only can get worse if i change something" > > > > -- Oh bloody hell! Talk about dropping the mic hard.. twice! Kate

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