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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Unable to mount this device error when using usb stick but not always
by Baron 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

Hi Guys, On Wednesday 05 December 2018 23:35:57 deloptes wrote: > Kate Draven wrote: > > I do have several computers in me wee lab. The sticks are all > > fine, mount and umount on all other computers, including another > > pclos 64 with the same kernels. At first I thought it was a > > kernel bug, wrong. > > > > I can only guess I'm installing something that messes it up. > > > > I reinstalled the OS into the test computer and incrementally > > installing packages until I find the culprit. > > mounting was udev job - no ? or at least to notify the system that > there is something attached to it and what exactly it is. Probably nothing to do with this problem, but anyway: If I have a HDD connected via a USB adaptor, I've found that after an initial plugging and use, then safely removing it, going back to it, in the same session, it may or may not be recognised. Doing a hard reboot seems to clear what ever causes this. Simply logging out and logging back in doesn't seem to work. -- Best Regards: Baron

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: New Thread: USB Hard drive not being recognized after first plug out.
by Kate Draven 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

> Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > If you are a "luck" person and you run Windooz10, then you find that this > > multi gadget protocol is broken since ~ 1 year ... hail progress! > > > > don't know why corp is doing windows - I think it is pure burning of > money ... I got one v10 few months ago and it is still laying on my desk > unused. > But I have no idea how this is working with cameras there. The corp is > paying for it to stay there on the desk and do some work. It is doing it > more or less good on its own. I alaways have to repeat myself what Linuz > Torvald said about it - something like a very good company, but the problem > is they make crappy software. > So ... times go by and some things never change - amazing. > > > At least on *nix you can fix stuff like this, even when redhat tries hard > > to break it. > > Well for the Windows, you have the windows admin - a person that should be > admired for the skill to support "crappy software" :) and keep the universe > in balance :) > Honestly ... no idea how those guys have the patience. I had to factory > restore one PC lately for a friend, because it got unusable after 6y of > use ... I think it took 8h or more to install all the updates or at least > to try to ... with numerous reboots in between. I have not done this for > years and it was impressive experience. In the mean time I could do a lot > of work on the linux PC that was installed 15y ago. Amazing! > > regards > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers Doc & deloptes, well observed, well said. Several mates went out of business supporting Vista, Now, a few more are close to closing because of win10. All I get at the shop are people bring in there machines to have data recovered after win8/10 died during an update (not so much win7). I don't know how MS stays in business. The os on this laptop, that I'm writing this email on, will be retired soon for Alistair Izzard's big daddy roll of PCLOS 64bit. Thank you very much Ali and to all. The OS is Ark Linux 2008. It's more than 10 years old and it has served me well, great infact. It took 7 years to find a replacement. Any linux, even a bad one, is always better than the best windows edition (or OSX but not to the same shocking degree). Kate >

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and one thing more
by dep 10 Dec '18

10 Dec '18

when i try to start firefox: dep@dep-desktop:~$ firefox (firefox:2619): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 2627 ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal... (crashreporter:2632): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported again, nothing changed in either software or configuration. this is very, very weird. -- dep Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. Because privacy matters.

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Re: [trinity-users] more post-Stretch issues: menus in Firefox, OO and in Pan
by Kate Draven 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, Kate Draven wrote: > > > On Sunday 09 December 2018, Felmon Davis wrote: > >> folks, > >> > >> the OpenOffice problem is not fixed (menu items invisible except with > >> mouse-over). one rabbit-hole at a time. > >> > >> f. > > > > Are you running the latest version of Openoffice. > > It seems to be a shared bug between Libreoffice (which was resolved) and OO. > > Apparently their theme engine is messed. > > > > See if there's an update to OO. > > so here's the present state: > > (a) Openoffice updated. no joy. notice also the drop box menus don't > have clear borders. > > (b) had a problems with firefox: black background on toolbar items and > drop-down menus only appearing with mouse hover-over; fixed with a > work-around Slavek proposed some time ago: "create a symlink for files > from /usr/lib/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/ to > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/" > > (c) so now new issues with Pan. I can't use KDE_Classic since that > gives Pan's top toolbar a black background and squeezes all the icons > too close together. changing to Plastik fixes some of this though > the text runs together and also no distinct borders. > > SUMMARY: > > so: text squeezed together in Pan 9.141; no borders on toolbar menus > in Pan and Openoffice 4.1.6; menu items only visible by mouse-over in > OpenOffice. > > I figure this requires more deep-dives into GTK but not sure where to > start. wonder about further hares to chase. > > I'd like to use KDE_Classic theme but I am forced to Plastik or > Redmond (seems best actually). GTK2 and GTK3 Styles set to "my TDE > style". > > f. > > -- > Felmon Davis > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Most of the stuff you've mentioned I've experienced. I have to get home to me pclos trinity computer and check settings. I'll post them when I do. Check your theme packages. Something is missing or improperly set. The black backgrounds and the like on FF was something I had too. Checked themes on kcontrol and fix it. More later... Good luck lad, Kate

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] ugly VLC after Stretch
by Kate Draven 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

> a new wrinkle - hadn't noticed but the menu options in OpenOffice are > now only visible if you pass the mouse cursor over them. > > weird. > > the laptop is an ASUS UX305F. > > no such problems until Stretch. of course, I may have mangled the > update somehow. > > tried a reboot also. this thing usually runs 24/7. > > f. > > > -- > Felmon Davis > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Felmon I've experience that before. It's a theming problem. Change your gtk settings on kcontrol until you find one that works and that you like. Install gtk theme to use. For gtk2, I use qtcurve. You need to install both tde and kde versions. For gtk3, I use default or adwaita. For fonts I use tde fonts. Good luck, let me know if this helps. Kate

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New Thread: USB Hard drive not being recognized after first plug out.
by Kate Draven 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

> Hi Guys, > Probably nothing to do with this problem, but anyway: > > If I have a HDD connected via a USB adaptor, I've found that after an > initial plugging and use, then safely removing it, going back to it, > in the same session, it may or may not be recognised. Doing a hard > reboot seems to clear what ever causes this. Simply logging out and > logging back in doesn't seem to work. > > > -- > Best Regards: > Baron > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I've seen this before. Sometimes it just helps to plug out the unit out and do the following. If you can, power it down, then connect it, power it back up. If it works, it's like the unit. If it doesn't, then it's software. Another thing you can try is to wait for a few mins, until the drive spins up, plug it out, wait 10s plug in again. It could be the drive is really slow to spin up. Good luck, let us know what happens. Kate

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] and one thing more
by Kate Draven 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --91626a50229013ceb57f9457a7f16e63ffea9a6df59ad197899567da5f6a > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" > > said Kate Draven: > | > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > | > --321beddf790282e20a201e2fb814b00f0e341ca0a537735f3b2940717f43 > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > | > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" > | > > | > when i try to start firefox: > | > > | > dep@dep-desktop:~$ firefox > | > > | > (firefox:2619): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ > | > 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported > | > ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 2627 > | > ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to > | > child ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue > | > signal... > | > > | > (crashreporter:2632): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using > | > GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported > | > > | > again, nothing changed in either software or configuration. > | > > | > this is very, very weird. > | > -- > | > dep > | > > | > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. Because privacy matters. > | > > | > --321beddf790282e20a201e2fb814b00f0e341ca0a537735f3b2940717f43 > | > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="publickey - > | > | dep(a)drippingwithirony.com.asc.pgp" > | > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > | > Content-Type: application/pgp-key; name="publickey - > | > | dep(a)drippingwithirony.com" > | > | The last time I experienced something like this. Me hard drive was > | dying. All I can think of. > > here's something stranger still: if i dump out of TDE and start gnome, the > misbehaving applications work just fine. so i'm thinking something has > gone flaky with tde here. i'm running 14.0.5 on ubuntu 16.04LTS. > -- > dep > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. Because privacy matters. > > --91626a50229013ceb57f9457a7f16e63ffea9a6df59ad197899567da5f6a > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="publickey - dep(a)drippingwithirony.com.asc.pgp" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Type: application/pgp-key; name="publickey - dep(a)drippingwithirony.com" Create a new blank user and log into tde. If it all works, you're user is pharted. That's why I always make backups. Good luck. Kate

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Re: [trinity-users] and one thing more
by Kate Draven 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --321beddf790282e20a201e2fb814b00f0e341ca0a537735f3b2940717f43 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" > > when i try to start firefox: > > dep@dep-desktop:~$ firefox > > (firefox:2619): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and > GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported > ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 2627 > ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child > ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal... > > (crashreporter:2632): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ > 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported > > again, nothing changed in either software or configuration. > > this is very, very weird. > -- > dep > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. Because privacy matters. > > --321beddf790282e20a201e2fb814b00f0e341ca0a537735f3b2940717f43 > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="publickey - dep(a)drippingwithirony.com.asc.pgp" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Type: application/pgp-key; name="publickey - dep(a)drippingwithirony.com" > The last time I experienced something like this. Me hard drive was dying. All I can think of. Sorry. Kate

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weirdness involving the panel, gtk stuff, and everything
by dep 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

much peculiarity, beginning about an hour ago. first, protonmail bridge collapsed, and i route kmail through it, which required a reboot. it came back, but the little network icon now didn't come back -- i forget the tde network app, so i can't test it from the commandline -- so i can't switch to the VPN, which is a pain. then came the video setting. each reboot, i need to run nvidia settings so as to set my monitor array correctly. this has worked without fail for years. but now: dep@dep-desktop:~$ /usr/bin/nvidia-settings (nvidia-settings:2540): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: specified instance size for type 'CtkWindow' is smaller than the parent type's 'GtkWindow' instance size (nvidia-settings:2540): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_new: assertion 'G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed (nvidia-settings:2540): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_container_set_border_width: assertion 'GTK_IS_CONTAINER (container)' failed Segmentation fault (core dumped) to the best of my knowledge, i have changed nothing on the system. oh, and the kicker panel, which i have set to autohide, won't autohide. all this in the last hour. what to do? thanks in advance. -- dep Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. Because privacy matters.

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ugly VLC after Stretch
by Felmon Davis 08 Dec '18

08 Dec '18

Greets! I decided to upgrade from Jessie to Stretch last night. it seems to have worked though there are some oddities. now VLC has grotesquely large control buttons ("Pause", etc.); the interface in general seems to run on a different 'theme' and anyway is over-large. I have tried the "forced window style" option under "preferences" but none of the various options but they make no different in these respects. maybe 'CDE' comes closest. I have purged and re-installed VLC also to no avail. I have looked at the 'themes' VLC offers. awful. just want my orange-colored working interface back. the only other application I've found which has undergone similar changes is Pan - it has a more 'pastel' shaded control set which I don't appreciate but can ignore. note a complication: I had Devuan installed and just did the Stretch update but not sure of its relevance (thus I mention it). f. -- Felmon Davis

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