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Getting the trinity-keyring in Devuan.
by Jimmy Johnson 31 May '18

31 May '18

Getting the trinity-keyring in Devuan can be tricky, I had to learn a system that worked, First of course is to do the Devuan base install and then boot and login and do apt-get update and 'apt-get install trinity-keyring --allow-unauthenticated', now you can apt-get install tde-trinity, you will have to tell apt 'y' for yes when asked to install untrusted. After the install is done and you boot to the trinity desktop you can copy the trinity-keyring and run 'apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.io --recv-keys (paste the trinity-keyring here)' and your good to go. If you try to have a system without the keyring properly installed you are going to have system problems, so make sure you can install aptitude and can run aptitude dist-upgrade without problems. Cheers! -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan ASCII - TDE Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda6 Registered Linux User #380263

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Help with HDMI audio please!
by Jimmy Johnson 31 May '18

31 May '18

Hey Guys, first my thanks to Timothy who had the foresight to start this project and stay with it. Timothy Pearson you rock! I test Debian and Ubuntu KDE for more than 20yrs, but no more I'm leaving Plasma and Systemd, they take the Happy out of Camping and computing too. I'm trying to setup Trinity with No-Systemd and get a good HDMI connection for both audio and video, it seems with systemd this is no problem and without systemd it's a hit and miss thing, if I keep at it I can get it working but I don't know what I'm doing and get frustrated. I have 3 multimedia computers one has nvidia and I'm watching video and I have audio, I can turn audio down using the video player vol control but the tde-mixer or pulseaudio vol control are not working. The other two are Intel audio and video and I feel lucky to get audio at all, sometimes it's just video and when I go to the konsole and type $ 'pulseaudio --start' I can get audio. Any help to get all this to working auto-magic would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263

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can't start screensaver matrix
by Uwe Brauer 31 May '18

31 May '18

Hi I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and the corresponding trinity version. But know I have a sort of bizarre problem. I activate the screensaver, I select the matrix. I successfully run the test, but when the screensaver should start, just a simple empty blank screensaver starts, but not the matrix. Is there anybody with a a similar problem and know how to solve it? Thanks Uwe Brauer

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kmail, a couple squawks
by Gene Heskett 31 May '18

31 May '18

Hi Slavik; Running latest r14, and I am noting that its losing its last read msg place in a mailing list easier and easier, sending it back to the first time stamp in a given folder. My inbox is approaching 20 years old, as is my coco list. Also, when MMB pasting a url with word wrapping enabled in the composer, it breaks the url even if there are no spaces and is of the style <a.full.url>. Should it not treat stuff surrounded by <> as unbreakable even if it's 500+ chars long, like some of the ebay stuff is these days? If these 2 annoyances could be addressed at some point, I would be quite a bit happier, and would say thank you in all caps. And send another donation the next time Tim needs to pay the bills. There is one economic law I'm a firm believer in, TANSTAAFL, so despite being retired on an SS pension, I manage to try and support the stuff I use. Not lavishly of course, given the income here. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Desktop Icon's
by Jimmy Johnson 30 May '18

30 May '18

I have Desktop, Behavior, File Icons setup to not show file icons, yet it's showing all the files I have in my /home. Can I fix this so the file icons do not show on my desktop? Cheers! -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan ASCII - TDE Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda6 Registered Linux User #380263

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] changes to konqueror ark plugin submenu
by Kate Draven 29 May '18

29 May '18

> On Tuesday 29 May 2018 09.57:45 Michele Calgaro wrote: > > Dear all, > > the "compress as" submenu in Konqueror is going to have some minor rework. > > We are changing the default compression format from gz to xz and enabling > > jar format (which could be useful for java programmers). > > > > We would like to remove lzma from that menu since we think it is not widely > > used anymore (the format would still be available through the "Add to > > archive" entry). > > Any objection on this last point before we proceed? > > > > thanks > > Michele > > Is ok for me. Thank you. > > Thierry > Agreed. Thank you all your hard work. Kate

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Broadcom wireless in Devuan
by Robert Peters 29 May '18

29 May '18

(was Re: [trinity-users] migrating from Debian to Devuan + VLC) Finally, have a Broadcom wireless connection in Devuan Searching led me to "devuan forums wireless", and to "Installing Broadcom Wireless Drivers". The page https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers points out how to find the driver package needed, in my case bcmwl-kernel-source. Downloaded the file from pkgs.org and installed with gdebi-gtk. After that, iwconfig showed wlan0, and I was able to connect. Hope this helps anyone having trouble connecting in Devuan. -Robert

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[trinity-users] /etc/alternatives/default-xsession.desktop is not tde.desktop
by Felix Miata 28 May '18

28 May '18

openSUSE 15.0 Prior version 42.3 had no such file /etc/alternatives/default-xsession.desktop. What's the prescribed procedure to make tde the default desktop? I tried 'yast2 alternatives', but tde.desktop is not an offered option, even though it is present in /usr/share/xsessions/. yast2 alternatives offers only icewm-default and icewm-lite. Is this something that needs a bug filed? I don't see anything on point. If yes, in openSUSE tracker, or in TDE tracker? Is there some existing trinity rpm that needs to be installed to create it? -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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migrating from Debian to Devuan + VLC
by William Morder 25 May '18

25 May '18

Since we are getting into other stuff, I am starting a new thread. Maybe it should be two threads? > On 04/21/2018 04:13 PM, William Morder wrote: > > I stand at the brink of Devuan, not quite ready to take the plunge myself, > > yet > > share in your dislike of systemd and how Debian is inching into a rule of > the > > few over the many. And I fear that it will soon drift into the same kind > > > of > > crap that ruined Kubuntu (and the whole Ubuntu family) for me. There are > > > just > > one or two refinements I want to make in my current system (so that I can > > find my way back when I get into a mess). > I'm sorry to hear you have systemd installed and you're not happy with > it, if I knew what version you are using I could make a suggestion, I > run all LTS versions or Debian and Ubuntu and now Devuan too. For hard > drive management I use Wheezy and Jessie, for multimedia I use the > latest. For the most part my system runs pretty well, except for hanging when I try to reboot (as explained below). What I would really like is to get VLC working right again. It was always the best all-round multimedia player, and now it crashes every time I open it. I searched round for solutions, and all I've found so far are suggestions to go back to the Wheezy repositories for older versions of VLC. Yet another user here in the Trinity group had the same problems with VLC, and he was already using Wheezy. I don't know what the problem is, but there is another great piece of software ruined. > Currently I'm looking at keeping some older systems around by > rolling my own kernels. There's always options. And slicing off > another partition for a new install is another option. I run Debian Jessie, and systemd seems to cause the system to hang in particular when I reboot. I always see that systemd is doing something, and cannot shut down. I created a kind of script to kill running programs, and this has pretty much solved the problem, but I still feel that my current Debian system does not run quite as smoothly as my older systems used to run. All in good time, though. I rarely have incidents any more which cause me to scream, pull out my hair, and call down curses upon the heads of the devs. > As for Ubuntu, they have messed up big-time and now they are on my list > of things I don't want to do anymore and now Microsoft won't be lonely > any more. :) It's never lonely at the bottom. > > The icon is nice, but I would recommend that all Devuan branding > > distinguish > > itself from Debian by making the spiral go round widdershins: that is, > > counter-clockwise. Then it would be perfect. > I hear you, it was just something I slapped together. No problem, it was just a suggestion. If Debian do not complain, then there is no obligation to change it. But since Devuan is a fork of Debian, and thus technically "different" from it, I thought it might be wise to think ahead. One could also say, for example, that TDE *is* really just KDE, but I believe some people out there will object. Likewise, you could say that Icecat *is* really just Iceweasel, which is really just Firefox. You could even say that *rock-n-roll* is really just *the blues* + *country music*. I do recognize that all categories are, to some degree, arbitrary and influenced by personal biases, etc. They can also be useful, however, to indicate that (for example) Devuan has struck out in a slightly different direction, which in my opinion is truer to Debian's mission than Debian itself currently operates. > You do know that Devuan IS Debian don't you? The only changes made > effect systemd and the packages needed so you can install the desktop of > choice, like udev and libpam, really just a hand full of packages are > changed. I'm running Devuan from Debian's Sid to Jessie, in other words > Devuan Jessie, ASCII, Beowulf and Ceres and Trinity is a clean install > on them all with no real problem, All around Devuan Jessie is the best! Yes, but the only practical way for me to get Devuan is to install Debian first, then migrate to Devuan. I have tried to install from the Devuan live DVD, and it wants to overwrite my home folder, with no other option. I have a backup, of course, but this does not seem quite right. I have found instructions for migrating from Debian to Devuan, without the necessity of reinstalling my system, so that is my plan. However, I have yet a couple loose ends to tie up, so that I can revert to my working system if necessary, when I will inevitably mess up something due to experimentation. Also, I have other responsibilities, various little jobs, and other things that I must do, as there is a life outside computers, and a whole world waiting to be explored just outside my door; or so I hear. > Bill just take away one thing from this post: If it's not fun don't do it. I wish somebody had told me this back when I was in grad school. > Cheers! > -- > Jimmy Johnson > Devuan ASCII - TDE Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda6 > Registered Linux User #380263

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a bit of a stunt
by dep 23 May '18

23 May '18

in part to see if it could be done and in part because i hoped the result would be useful, today i installed microsoft word 5.5 (which is a free download from microsoft) on the little gemini device and got it running in dosbox over lxqt over debian stretch on an arm64 device. (keyboard mapping is the current sticking point, and unless i can get it full screen i'm not sure it is worth the effort. and yes, i noticed the misspelling in the screenshot). https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=35015&pid=286127&st=0&#entry… -- dep Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. Because privacy matters.

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