11 Jul
2018
11 Jul
'18
11:40 a.m.
In older versions of KDE in the default aplications section of Kcontrol
there used to be a way to change the file manager see picture in link
below. I don't see that anymore. I would like to change from Konqueror to
Pcmanfm as my default. Is there a way to set that from the command line or
a way to add back the file manager selection? I find that PCmanfm can be
set to see many more types of thumbnails than Konqueror can and I find that
very helpful.
https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/kde_default.png
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11 Jul
11:46 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Default filemanager question
Hi,
You screenshot is from KDE4, not KDE3, so it would be good to double-check if that option
was available in KDE3 too.
I fully agree with you that we should have that option.
-Alexandre
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Objet : [trinity-users] Default filemanager question
In older versions of KDE in the default aplications section of Kcontrol there used to be a
way to change the file manager see picture in link below. I don't see that anymore. I
would like to change from Konqueror to Pcmanfm as my default. Is there a way to set that
from the command line or a way to add back the file manager selection? I find that PCmanfm
can be set to see many more types of thumbnails than Konqueror can and I find that very
helpful.
https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/kde_default.png
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11:58 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Default filemanager question
You are correct about the screenshot but I remember being able to toggle
between Konq and Dolphin in the old days. I'm just wondering if it is
possible to change it from the command prompt? It is my only real gripe
with TDE while I loved Konq in it's day other File managers have passed it
by in features.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 7:46 AM, Alexandre Couture <ac586133(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
You screenshot is from KDE4, not KDE3, so it would be good to double-check
if that option was available in KDE3 too.
I fully agree with you that we should have that option.
-Alexandre
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*Objet :* [trinity-users] Default filemanager question
In older versions of KDE in the default aplications section of Kcontrol
there used to be a way to change the file manager see picture in link
below. I don't see that anymore. I would like to change from Konqueror to
Pcmanfm as my default. Is there a way to set that from the command line or
a way to add back the file manager selection? I find that PCmanfm can be
set to see many more types of thumbnails than Konqueror can and I find
that very helpful.
https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/kde_default.png
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1:28 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Default filemanager question
So this is interesting I decided I wanted to try the bull in a china shop
approach. I went into /opt/trinity/bin and moved Konqueror to Konqueror.old
and created a sym link to pcman there instead. Now if I click on the
default Konqueror icon on the task bar it opens pcman as it should but if I
click any short cut on the desktop or elsewhere Konqueror still opens which
you would think at best I would get an error saying it can't do what I ask.
So where is it still finding Konqueror?
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 7:58 AM, Pisini, John <pisinij(a)csps.com> wrote:
You are correct about the screenshot but I remember
being able to toggle
between Konq and Dolphin in the old days. I'm just wondering if it is
possible to change it from the command prompt? It is my only real gripe
with TDE while I loved Konq in it's day other File managers have passed it
by in features.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 7:46 AM, Alexandre Couture <ac586133(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
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Hi,
You screenshot is from KDE4, not KDE3, so it would be good to
double-check if that option was available in KDE3 too.
I fully agree with you that we should have that option.
-Alexandre
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*Envoyé :* 11 juillet 2018 07:40:47
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*Objet :* [trinity-users] Default filemanager question
In older versions of KDE in the default aplications section of Kcontrol
there used to be a way to change the file manager see picture in link
below. I don't see that anymore. I would like to change from Konqueror to
Pcmanfm as my default. Is there a way to set that from the command line or
a way to add back the file manager selection? I find that PCmanfm can be
set to see many more types of thumbnails than Konqueror can and I find
that very helpful.
https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/kde_default.png
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1:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Default filemanager question
On Wednesday 11 July 2018 15.28:33 Pisini, John wrote:
So this is interesting I decided I wanted to try the
bull in a china shop
approach. I went into /opt/trinity/bin and moved Konqueror to Konqueror.old
and created a sym link to pcman there instead. Now if I click on the
default Konqueror icon on the task bar it opens pcman as it should but if I
click any short cut on the desktop or elsewhere Konqueror still opens which
you would think at best I would get an error saying it can't do what I ask.
So where is it still finding Konqueror?
Possibly because it's not calling "konqueror".
My "home" button contains "kfmclient openProfile filemanagement"
Thierry
1:57 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Default filemanager question
OK so I restored Konq as that is obviously not the right way to do it. I
will keep looking. Thanks for the help.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>
wrote:
On Wednesday 11 July 2018 15.28:33 Pisini, John
wrote:
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So this is interesting I decided I wanted to try
the bull in a china shop
approach. I went into /opt/trinity/bin and moved Konqueror to
Konqueror.old
and created a sym link to pcman there instead.
Now if I click on the
default Konqueror icon on the task bar it opens pcman as it should but
if I
click any short cut on the desktop or elsewhere
Konqueror still opens
which
you would think at best I would get an error
saying it can't do what I
ask.
So where is it still finding Konqueror?
Possibly because it's not calling "konqueror".
My "home" button contains "kfmclient openProfile filemanagement"
Thierry
6:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Default filemanager question
On Wednesday 11 July 2018 06:57:11 Pisini, John wrote:
OK so I restored Konq as that is obviously not the
right way to do it. I
will keep looking. Thanks for the help.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>
wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 July 2018 15.28:33 Pisini, John wrote:
> > So this is interesting I decided I wanted to try the bull in a china
> > shop approach. I went into /opt/trinity/bin and moved Konqueror to
>
> Konqueror.old
>
> > and created a sym link to pcman there instead. Now if I click on the
> > default Konqueror icon on the task bar it opens pcman as it should but
>
> if I
>
> > click any short cut on the desktop or elsewhere Konqueror still opens
>
> which
>
> > you would think at best I would get an error saying it can't do what I
>
> ask.
>
> > So where is it still finding Konqueror?
>
> Possibly because it's not calling "konqueror".
>
> My "home" button contains "kfmclient openProfile
filemanagement"
>
> Thierry
Try this; works for me with most KDE3/TDE applications.
1. Open any file manager and go to a directory, e.g., /home/USERNAME/
2. Right-click on a folder (not a file), select "open with" and
choose "other"; then, when you are given an option, choose Konqueror. (It may
be that you already have Konqueror in your list, along with Nautilus,
PCManFM, and what-not.)
3. You will see (for most applications) a box at the bottom left-hand of the
screen that says "Remember application association for this type of file."
Check the box.
Now when you right-click on a folder, you ought to see Konquerer at the top of
the list. If you just double-click on the folder, Konqueror ought to open the
folder as the default manager.
The only glitch here is that some applications (but not Konqueror) do not obey
this method (for example, KPDF), and I don't have a clue why or why not.
Also, if you have Dolphin installed, it tends to take over this spot,
regardless what you do. I used to purge Dolphin as my first step in a new
system; although again, I haven't troubled myself to find out why. (It no
longer seems to interfere with Konqueror when I am in the TDE desktop, but I
still use Dolphin when I occasionally go into the KDE4 desktop.) All I can
say is, this works for me.
Another thing to know is that if you have KDE4 installed (because you like to
have another desktop manager available), then you could have two instances of
Konqueror installed (although I believe that konqueror-trinity takes over
once installed). Also, check your Konqueror profiles, as Konqueror can also
be used as a web browser.
There used to be configuration files for konqueror (actually for practically
all KDE3 apps) here:
/home/silenus/.kde/share/config/
especially, this one:
/home/silenus/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc
When I look in the corresponding folder for Trinity, however, I find:
/opt/trinity/share/config.kcfg/konqueror.kcfg
which is an xml file, so I haven't tried to mess with it yet.
Bill
12 Jul
12 Jul
12:29 a.m.
If you go to KDE Components => File Manager, tab Behaviour, do you see 'Show
File Tips', 'Show previews in file tips' check boxes? If so, that should do
what you want.
WRT swapping pcman for Konqueror, right-click on the Konqueror desktop or
menu bar icon, select Configure button, to the Application tab, and change
the Command field to call the program you want. (This still might not get
all of the features you want, but it will be more consistent than renaming
the program.)
Leslie
On 2018-07-11 13:21:23 William Morder wrote:
On Wednesday 11 July 2018 06:57:11 Pisini, John
wrote:
OK so I restored Konq as that is obviously not
the right way to do it. I
will keep looking. Thanks for the help.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>
wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 July 2018 15.28:33 Pisini, John wrote:
> > So this is interesting I decided I wanted to try the bull in a china
> > shop approach. I went into /opt/trinity/bin and moved Konqueror to
>
> Konqueror.old
>
> > and created a sym link to pcman there instead. Now if I click on the
> > default Konqueror icon on the task bar it opens pcman as it should
> > but
>
> if I
>
> > click any short cut on the desktop or elsewhere Konqueror still opens
>
> which
>
> > you would think at best I would get an error saying it can't do what
> > I
>
> ask.
>
> > So where is it still finding Konqueror?
>
> Possibly because it's not calling "konqueror".
>
> My "home" button contains "kfmclient openProfile
filemanagement"
>
> Thierry
Try this; works for me with most KDE3/TDE applications.
1. Open any file manager and go to a directory, e.g., /home/USERNAME/
2. Right-click on a folder (not a file), select "open with" and
choose "other"; then, when you are given an option, choose Konqueror. (It
may be that you already have Konqueror in your list, along with Nautilus,
PCManFM, and what-not.)
3. You will see (for most applications) a box at the bottom left-hand of
the screen that says "Remember application association for this type of
file." Check the box.
Now when you right-click on a folder, you ought to see Konquerer at the top
of the list. If you just double-click on the folder, Konqueror ought to
open the folder as the default manager.
The only glitch here is that some applications (but not Konqueror) do not
obey this method (for example, KPDF), and I don't have a clue why or why
not. Also, if you have Dolphin installed, it tends to take over this spot,
regardless what you do. I used to purge Dolphin as my first step in a new
system; although again, I haven't troubled myself to find out why. (It no
longer seems to interfere with Konqueror when I am in the TDE desktop, but
I still use Dolphin when I occasionally go into the KDE4 desktop.) All I
can say is, this works for me.
Another thing to know is that if you have KDE4 installed (because you like
to have another desktop manager available), then you could have two
instances of Konqueror installed (although I believe that konqueror-trinity
takes over once installed). Also, check your Konqueror profiles, as
Konqueror can also be used as a web browser.
There used to be configuration files for konqueror (actually for
practically all KDE3 apps) here:
/home/silenus/.kde/share/config/
especially, this one:
/home/silenus/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc
When I look in the corresponding folder for Trinity, however, I find:
/opt/trinity/share/config.kcfg/konqueror.kcfg
which is an xml file, so I haven't tried to mess with it yet.
Bill
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12:44 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Default filemanager question
Thanks for all the help guys this worked.
1. Open any file manager and go to a directory, e.g., /home/USERNAME/
2. Right-click on a folder (not a file), select "open with" and
choose "other"; then, when you are given an option, choose Konqueror. (It
may
be that you already have Konqueror in your list, along with Nautilus,
PCManFM, and what-not.)
3. You will see (for most applications) a box at the bottom left-hand of the
screen that says "Remember application association for this type of file."
Check the box.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:29 PM, J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff(a)mail.com>
wrote:
If you go to KDE Components => File
Manager, tab Behaviour, do you
see 'Show
File Tips', 'Show previews in file tips' check boxes? If so, that should
do
what you want.
WRT swapping pcman for Konqueror, right-click on the Konqueror
desktop or
menu bar icon, select Configure button, to the Application tab, and change
the Command field to call the program you want. (This still might not get
all of the features you want, but it will be more consistent than renaming
the program.)
Leslie
On 2018-07-11 13:21:23 William Morder wrote:
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On Wednesday 11 July 2018 06:57:11 Pisini, John
wrote:
> OK so I restored Konq as that is obviously not the right way to do it.
I
> will keep looking. Thanks for the help.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Thierry de Coulon <
tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch>
>
> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 11 July 2018 15.28:33 Pisini, John wrote:
> > > So this is interesting I decided I wanted to try the bull in a
china
> > > shop approach. I went into
/opt/trinity/bin and moved Konqueror to
> >
> > Konqueror.old
> >
> > > and created a sym link to pcman there instead. Now if I click on
the
> > > default Konqueror icon on the task
bar it opens pcman as it should
> > > but
> >
> > if I
> >
> > > click any short cut on the desktop or elsewhere Konqueror still
opens
> >
> > which
> >
> > > you would think at best I would get an error saying it can't do
what
> >
I
>
> ask.
>
> > So where is it still finding Konqueror?
>
> Possibly because it's not calling "konqueror".
>
> My "home" button contains "kfmclient openProfile
filemanagement"
>
> Thierry
Try this; works for me with most KDE3/TDE applications.
1. Open any file manager and go to a directory, e.g., /home/USERNAME/
2. Right-click on a folder (not a file), select "open with" and
choose "other"; then, when you are given an option, choose Konqueror. (It
may be that you already have Konqueror in your list, along with Nautilus,
PCManFM, and what-not.)
3. You will see (for most applications) a box at the bottom left-hand of
the screen that says "Remember application association for this type of
file." Check the box.
Now when you right-click on a folder, you ought to see Konquerer at the of the list. If you just double-click on the
folder, Konqueror ought to
open the folder as the default manager.
The only glitch here is that some applications (but not Konqueror) do not
obey this method (for example, KPDF), and I don't have a clue why or why
not. Also, if you have Dolphin installed, it tends to take over this
spot,
regardless what you do. I used to purge Dolphin
as my first step in a new
system; although again, I haven't troubled myself to find out why. (It no
longer seems to interfere with Konqueror when I am in the TDE desktop,
but
I still use Dolphin when I occasionally go into
the KDE4 desktop.) All I
can say is, this works for me.
Another thing to know is that if you have KDE4 installed (because you
like
to have another desktop manager available), then
you could have two
instances of Konqueror installed (although I believe that
konqueror-trinity
takes over once installed). Also, check your
Konqueror profiles, as
Konqueror can also be used as a web browser.
There used to be configuration files for konqueror (actually for
practically all KDE3 apps) here:
/home/silenus/.kde/share/config/
especially, this one:
/home/silenus/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc
When I look in the corresponding folder for Trinity, however, I find:
/opt/trinity/share/config.kcfg/konqueror.kcfg
which is an xml file, so I haven't tried to mess with it yet.
Bill
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12:46 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Default filemanager question
Sorry last email was a little wonky the tip from William Morder is what I
used.
2:17 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Default filemanager question
On Wednesday 11 July 2018 17:46:34 Pisini, John wrote:
Sorry last email was a little wonky the tip from
William Morder is what I
used.
No problem, I don't care all that much one way or the other about credit. Glad
it worked for you, and you get extra good karma points.
Bill
11:15 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Default filemanager question
I just want to make sure if someone else has the same question they know
what worked for me.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:17 PM, William Morder <doctor_contendo(a)zoho.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday 11 July 2018 17:46:34 Pisini, John wrote:
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Sorry last email was a little wonky the tip from
William Morder is what I
used.
No problem, I don't care all that much one way or the other about credit.
Glad
it worked for you, and you get extra good karma points.
Bill
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11:42 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Default filemanager question
On Thursday 12 July 2018 04:15:25 Pisini, John wrote:
I just want to make sure if someone else has the same
question they know
what worked for me.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:17 PM, William Morder <doctor_contendo(a)zoho.com>
wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 July 2018 17:46:34 Pisini, John wrote:
> > Sorry last email was a little wonky the tip from William Morder is what
> > I used.
>
> No problem, I don't care all that much one way or the other about credit.
> Glad
> it worked for you, and you get extra good karma points.
>
> Bill
>
The same steps work to set most of the default applications in TDE (and I
think it's still the same in KDE4). However, as I mentioned, there are some
applications that apparently cannot be set as the default by that method -
KPDF is the one that most annoyed me, as I prefer it for my pdf reader, but
cannot set it as the default. It is curiouser still, because both Konqueror
and KPDF are KDE/TDE.
If anybody has some notion why it works for some applications but not others,
I would be interested to know.
Bill
2:30 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Default filemanager question
On Thursday 12 July 2018 06:42:43 am William Morder wrote:
On Thursday 12 July 2018 04:15:25 Pisini, John wrote:
Hi Bill,
It can be done, you're just in the wrong area to change that ;) as it’s a
Konqueror {default?} behavior that you’re needing to override.
In Konqueror:
- Settings >> Configure Konqueror >> File Associations
- Find filename patter: >> pdf
- Known Types >> {Select pdf}
- Select tab “Embedding”
- In “Left Click Action”:
- - Check “Use settings for ‘application’ group”
- - Un-check everything else
- - Verify KPDF is first entry*
* It’s first in both tabs for me.
Best,
Michael
PS: Please strip out peoples’ email addresses when you reply. These do get
published on a TDE website.
I just want to make sure if someone else has the
same question they know
what worked for me.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:17 PM, William Morder
wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 July 2018 17:46:34 Pisini, John wrote:
> > Sorry last email was a little wonky the tip from William Morder is
> > what I used.
>
> No problem, I don't care all that much one way or the other about
> credit. Glad
> it worked for you, and you get extra good karma points.
>
> Bill
The same steps work to set most of the default applications in TDE (and I
think it's still the same in KDE4). However, as I mentioned, there are some
applications that apparently cannot be set as the default by that method -
KPDF is the one that most annoyed me, as I prefer it for my pdf reader, but
cannot set it as the default. It is curiouser still, because both Konqueror
and KPDF are KDE/TDE.
If anybody has some notion why it works for some applications but not
others, I would be interested to know.
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