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[start hal in 13.04] (was: [trinity-users] does not automount usb flashdrives)
by Uwe Brauer 23 Feb '14

23 Feb '14

>> "Werner" == Werner Joss <werner(a)hoernerfranzracing.de> writes: > Am Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2014, 15:49:37 schrieb Uwe Brauer: >> This time (for Kubuntu 13.05) it works for KDE4 (so the USB >> drive and the PC are not the problem), but *not* for trinity. > might be caused by kubuntu 13.04 no longer supporting HAL, which is > what trinity 3.5.x still uses. R14 will be working without HAL, so > you probably will have to wait for that. > werner First I would like to werner for his suggestion. Indeed the hal daemon was not running on 13.04 and it took some effort to start him, basically following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140324 The crucial point was to create /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe and /etc/hal/fdi/information Then running sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes --verbose=yes And then indeed ps aux | grep hald Returns ,---- | | 114 5761 0.6 0.0 125032 4820 ? Ssl 16:14 0:00 | /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes --verbose=yes | root 5762 0.0 0.0 110812 1948 ? Sl 16:14 0:00 hald-runner | root 5794 0.0 0.0 39076 1900 ? S 16:14 0:00 | hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event2 /dev/input/event0 | /dev/input/event3 /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event7 | root 5795 0.0 0.0 39068 1820 ? S 16:14 0:00 | /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-generic-backlight | root 5842 0.0 0.0 39072 1888 ? S 16:14 0:00 | hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every 2 sec) | root 5845 0.0 0.0 39084 1696 ? S 16:14 0:00 | /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq | 114 5846 0.0 0.0 26816 1352 ? S 16:14 0:00 | hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket | mjpons 5850 0.0 0.0 10648 932 pts/1 S+ 16:14 0:00 grep hal `---- which looks good, alas, I use a USB flash drive and it is *not* mounted automatically as I hoped. In Kubuntu 10.04 the ps command returns ,---- | 106 24280 0.0 0.1 16988 4564 ? Ssl 16:00 0:00 /usr/sbin/hald | root 24281 0.0 0.0 3536 1280 ? S 16:00 0:00 hald-runner | root 24310 0.0 0.0 3612 1248 ? S 16:00 0:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event4 /dev/input/event7 /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event5 /dev/input/event2 /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event12 /dev/input/event9 /dev/input/event8 | root 24313 0.0 0.0 3612 1224 ? S 16:00 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-rfkill-killswitch | root 24319 0.0 0.0 3612 1236 ? S 16:00 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-leds | root 24326 0.0 0.0 3608 1240 ? S 16:00 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-generic-backlight | root 24328 0.0 0.0 3624 1252 ? S 16:00 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq | 106 24329 0.0 0.0 3420 1172 ? S 16:00 0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket | oub 24611 0.0 0.0 3324 808 pts/3 S+ 16:05 0:00 grep hal `---- Which looks a little different. Any suggest is very very welcome Uwe Brauer

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Re: [trinity-devel] Fwd: [trinity-users] [start hal in 13.04] (was: [trinity-users] does not automount usb flashdrives)
by David C. Rankin 20 Feb '14

20 Feb '14

On 02/20/2014 11:24 AM, Werner Joss wrote: > which looks good, alas, I use a USB flash drive and it is *not* mounted > automatically as I hoped. > > In Kubuntu 10.04 the ps command returns > > ,---- > | 106 24280 0.0 0.1 16988 4564 ? Ssl 16:00 0:00 /usr/sbin/hald > | root 24281 0.0 0.0 3536 1280 ? S 16:00 0:00 hald-runner > | root 24310 0.0 0.0 3612 1248 ? S 16:00 0:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event4 /dev/input/event7 /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event5 /dev/input/event2 /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event12 /dev/input/event9 /dev/input/event8 > | root 24313 0.0 0.0 3612 1224 ? S 16:00 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-rfkill-killswitch > | root 24319 0.0 0.0 3612 1236 ? S 16:00 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-leds > | root 24326 0.0 0.0 3608 1240 ? S 16:00 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-generic-backlight > | root 24328 0.0 0.0 3624 1252 ? S 16:00 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq > | 106 24329 0.0 0.0 3420 1172 ? S 16:00 0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket > | oub 24611 0.0 0.0 3324 808 pts/3 S+ 16:05 0:00 grep hal > `---- > > Which looks a little different. > > > Any suggest is very very welcome > > Uwe Brauer First - is your install sysV or systemd? If systemd, then do you have consolekit installed? If no, then TDE must be patched to work in a systemd environment without console kit. The problem is user session/process tracking in TDE has not been updated to work with systemd. If you have systemd+consolekit and launch tdm through the old sysV init script, then everything will work through systemd compatibility mode. Without consolekit you have hit bug 1902. In that case, user mount of drives and access to sound may not work. Further, any tdeio processes opened (e.g. http/file/sftp) will not exit when the connection is closed and you will end up with LOTs of tdeio_file, tdeio_http, tdeio_sftp processes running on your box. However, there is a limit to the number of simultaneous processes that can be opened, so you will not run into a memory exhaustion situation. See: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1902 This is a known issue and should be fixed shortly. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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does not automount usb flashdrives
by Uwe Brauer 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Heloo Kubuntu 13.04: using kde4 usb flash drive is found and automounted. However in trintiy automaount does not work I have to mount manually. any suggestions? thanks Uwe Brauer

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TDE depends on xorg
by Greg Madden 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

I have been trying to find the package or meta-package in TDE that depends (installs) the x-window system, ie xorg. Would it be a good idea to depend on xorg ,or similar, if TDE does not do so ? It is atypical ,afaikt, for most DE to not include the x-window system. Are most ou you installing TDE after installing another DE ? -- Peace, Greg

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trinity is not trinity???
by Uwe Brauer 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

Hi I just saw from the screenshot taken by James Downing that his control center is very different from mine (Kubuntu 10.04 or 13.04). Mine looks more that the one provided by Apple OS X. So I am puzzled: I thought: trinity is trinity? regards Uwe Brauer

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A great collection of wonderful wallpapers, which are creative-common licensed
by Alexandre 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hi! Here is a great collection of wonderful wallpapers, which are creative-common licensed: http://www.ravewallpapers.com They are a great addition for your computer, especially if you work in an office without windows to look outdoor. I found it on kde-look.org Maybe it would be a great way to refresh the collection of wallpapers released with TDE, which starts to get a little old. If someone is interested in it, I can choose some of them, so they could be part of TDE R14. Maybe a new default wallpaper could be choosen in that for the upcoming R14? Have a nice day! -Alexandre

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Trinity-DE fan blogpost
by Curt Howland 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hi. I realize that this is very much "preaching to the choir", posting this on the Trinity users list, but I thought some of you might like the post I did last night showing how easy it is to install the Trinity-DE system on Debian. http://anarchic-order.blogspot.com/ Criticisms, corrections and caveats gladly received, the comment area is open to all. What's your favorite application or feature in Trinity-DE? Mine is Kmail, by a wide margin. Curt- -- The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom is courage. - Thucydides

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kmail index problem
by Thierry de Coulon 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hi all, I have trinity (3.5.13) installed on debian wheezy. I just set up a new machine with the Haswell chipset and copied my installation on the new machine (I used clonezilla for that). As wheezy does not support Haswell, I had to install the 3.12-0.bpo.1 kernel. I also has a small problem setting the time (I mixed up dd/mm/yyyy and mm/dd/yyy). Now I get a message every time I start kmail, saying there was a problem with the indexes. kmail recreates the indexes and does work, but it does not cure the problem (I also deleted all indexes, *.index and *.ids, but it does not help either). the permissions seems ok (644) and the owner is right. Anyone has an idea what's going on? Thierry

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cannot start kpowersave
by Uwe Brauer 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hello I am still trying 13.04 out, but when I tried to start kpowersave I receive Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. and it does start up but then I cannot select anything, hibernate suspend no such option pop up. Which BTW happens also when I use control alt delete, there is no suspend or hibernate option. which I find odd. thanks Uwe Brauer

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Re: [trinity-users] crash when logout
by dollyclone＠hushmail.com 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

>> Hi All >> >> Trinity 3.5.13.2 on Debian Wheezy oftentimes crash when I >attempt >> to logout with some apps open, krusader or others. ksmserver >seems >> crashed, I have searched mailing lists, but no similar topic >have >> found, please confirm the glitch. >> >> Do someone have some solution ? >> >> Dolly Pete >On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:56:36 +0100 "Jan Stolarek" <jan.stolarek(a)p.lodz.pl> wrote: >I had another problem: logging out freezes on "Saving your >settings" dialog. I disabled "Fancy >fadeout" (or sth like that) and "Show progress when logging out" >(or, again, something like >that - writting from memory) in KControlCenter and the problem >disappeared. Try it, maybe it will >help > >Janek > >Dnia czwartek, 6 lutego 2014, dollyclone(a)hushmail.com napisał: If I disable "Show progress when logging out" in KControlCenter, the glitch is out, but its not a proper solution. The best way to reproduce the glitch is fresh install of Trinity 3.5.13.2 on Debian Wheezy and apt-get install krusader-trinity. Run krusader, let it open and try to logoff. A crash dialog will appear .. Pete

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