Just found this reply to my note on their list about jumping from Ubuntu to
Trisquel. They're actually ideologically even more purist than Debian is,
it seems -- there's a non-free Debian repository nowadays, isn't there?
Anyway:
First of all: welcome!
> there are certain "non-free" packages i need, particularly video drivers.
The Trisquel community will not "help" you install non-free software,
because it does not consider it would actually be helping you:
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-community-guidelines
> by pointing at the trisquel servers in my /etc/apt/sources.list instead
> of ubuntu ones, i can switch by simply doing the usual apt update / apt
> upgrade
Non-free packages would remain and would never be upgraded, even if
vulnerabilities in them are exploited.
If I were you, I would export the list of installed packages following
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/cloning-system-or-how-make-copy-installed-pac…
(for instance), make a fresh install of Trisquel 11 Beta 6 (based on Ubuntu
22.04) using the ISO on https://cdbuilds.trisquel.org/aramo/ providing your
desktop environment of preference (tell us which one it is if you do not
know what ISO to download) and import the packages. Those that are not
installable are certainly proprietary software.
> are the package names the same?
Yes.
> is there a non-free repository for things like vid drivers?
No. Trisquel is 100% free software.
> i presume my other sources.list lines, that have to do with ppas and the
> like, could remain intact.
You can save those files before the fresh install too. For your own sake,
I hope you will not re-add PPA proposing proprietary software.
> what version name (focal, jammy, for instance, should i employ
The code name of Trisquel 10 (based on Ubuntu 20.04) is Nabia. That of
Trisquel 11 (based on Ubuntu 22.04) is Aramo.
> is there a model sources.list I could copy from?
Because I download the packages from
https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/ (there are many
other mirrors) and I use Trisquel 11 Aramo, my /etc/apt/sources.list is:
# Trisquel repositories for supported software and updates
deb https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/ aramo main
deb https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/ aramo-security
main
deb https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/ aramo-updates
main
deb https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/
aramo-backports
main
[eoq]
So they seem to be the computer equivalent of woke, which seems to me to be
that they'd rather I follow the RMS model than have a computer that does
what I need it to do. There are no Nvidia drivers from the FSF that do
what the Nvidia binary blobs and associated configuration software do.
The on-topic question: there are TDE packages that would work, correct?
Are there even any for "aramo"?
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Hi,
Is there a way for one account to fetch information from another account's DCOP service?
If I open a Konsole session that logs into another account's shell, can that shell fetch
the SessionName from the DCOP of the Konsole account?
Leslie
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greets, everybody . . .
i've been away, working on a book project, but now i need to turn to this
list. i've used ubuntu for well over a decade, happily. canonical has gone
kind of flaky -- first, update messages got salted with announcements that
they're holding back some security updates unless i register with them
(and we all know where that leads). now i updates my second machine,
running 2004LTS, and got a pop-up saying support will end in 43 days
unless i upgrade to 2204.
until now, upgrading was simply a matter of changing the version name in
the sources list, then doing the usual update/upgrade thing. usually i had
to do it a couple of times to get everything, but it worked.
my desktop is pretty elaborately configured. a clean install would take a
week i don't have, followed by a year of every so often finding something
that no longer works. so . . .
i'm hoping to find what amounts to a ubuntu clone but free of whatever it
is that canonical is up to. by this, i mean a distro that will let me
change the version name (and probably the server) in the sources list
(actually, in synaptic), and let 'er rip, with package names and so on
being the same to the extent that it won't break everything. there used to
be a lot of -buntus -- for a while i was using kubuntu until kde went its
goofy way and ubuntu dropped support for it. i see now that there is
something called "trisquel," and that seems a likely choice, if package
naming conventions are the same -- i know that version names aren't.
anybody tried it? i's do debian, but that would take me a week or two to
fix the stuff broken by their politics, even as i'm trying to fix what
canonical is breaking for business reasons. i do not want snap or
appimage, just plain old deb.
what's the right answer? is there a solid non-ubuntu ubuntu that without
too much crowbar use runs TDE?
thanks in advance.
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I made these comments in response to a different topic and suspect
they were overlooked as a result. Hence, another attempt. On a Fedora
37 system with KDE (5) working, I installed TDE. All of it except
the applications.
Having KDE 5 installed before installing TDE seems to have resulted
in some confusion. The DE startup splash screen, for example, says it
is starting Plasma by KDE. Once started, it does appear to actually
be TDE.
But some parts of TDE don't work as expected. For example, the TDE
Control Center doesn't start if selected from the start menu. Nothing
at all happens. Starting kcontrol from a shell does start what appears
to be the program but nothing in it works. On exit, the shell reports,
"WARNING: No TDE menu group with X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found |
Defaulting to Settings/".
Is this sort of installation expected to work? Would it have been
better to start with a fresh install?
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I am trying to configure TDM.
The default is some kind of black background. The login dialog is so
dark of a gray that I can't read the black text in the dialog. This
seems to be an os_enterprise theme? Is this the normal default?
Using the TCC Login Manager module I was able to get something usable,
but I had to manually edit the tdmrc file to Theme= (nothing) to kill
that dark theme.
The login dialog has a title bar with a caption that says 'Login to
TDE'. Looking at the code this seems hard-coded? Can this be changed?
Seems the caption should say 'Login' or possibly be dynamic to whatever
session the user selects?
Regardless of whatever session I select I get dumped into a terminal
window shell. Seems something is misconfigured and TDM is not sourcing
any xsession files.
Appreciate any help.
DA
<https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Fedora_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…> provides
great instructions for installing TDE on a working Fedora 37 system. But the last section provides
no help for starting TDE from a "run-level 3" system (multi-user, not graphical). The built-in
startx command does not detect TDE. Or, more specifically, the /etc/sysconfig/desktop script. Of
course, I can modify that script but I have no idea what to add to it. It would be nice if the TDE
installation provided an updated version.
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Hello,
On my second computer,
I created an icon Konqueror to open it in root.
When I want to open a file I receive this message :
"Impossible to dialogue with TDE Launcher"
and the file does not open.
Quid ?
I don't have this message on my two others computers.
Thanks, cheers.
André
Wolfgang Pfeiffer composed on 2023-03-06 18:38 (UTC+0100): # on fedora user mailing list.
> On Mar 06, 2023 at 03:34:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>>I'm not against change, but this is a result of several years of system-upgrades,
>>and I've never seen anything explaining how to make a switch:
...
> In your messages wireplumber does not appear. It seems this software
> is managing sound since F34. On this page
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F35_bugs#No_sound_after_upgrade_(wire…
> you find
> "Wireplumber ... "needs to be running for sound to work"."
>
> The page above provides excellent documentation to find what went
> wrong, and how to fix it.
It doesn't seem to cover this:
# dnf search systemd | grep -iE 'wire|puls|audio|sound'
Last metadata expiration check: 0:20:21 ago on Mon 06 Mar 2023 06:11:55 PM EST.
[root@gx62b ~]# rpm -qa | grep -iE 'wire|pulse|alsa|audio|sound' |sort
alsa-firmware-1.2.4-7.fc37.noarch
alsa-lib-1.2.8-2.fc37.x86_64
alsa-tools-firmware-1.2.5-5.fc37.x86_64
alsa-ucm-1.2.8-2.fc37.noarch
alsa-utils-1.2.8-1.fc37.x86_64
audiofile-0.3.6-31.fc37.x86_64
esound-libs-0.2.41-28.fc37.x86_64
jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.21-3.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-libs-0.3.66-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.66-1.fc37.x86_64
pulseaudio-libs-16.1-4.fc37.x86_64
pulseaudio-utils-16.1-4.fc37.x86_64
python3-alsa-1.2.7-3.fc37.x86_64
sound-theme-freedesktop-0.8-18.fc37.noarch
soundtouch-2.3.1-3.fc37.x86_64
webrtc-audio-processing-0.3.1-9.fc37.x86_64
wireplumber-libs-0.4.13-1.fc37.x86_64
zita-alsa-pcmi-0.6.1-1.fc37.x86_64
#
$ systemctl --user status wireplumber.service
Unit wireplumber.service could not be found.
$
This is after rebooting following running
dnf swap --allowerasing pulseaudio pipewire-pulseaudio
dnf install wireplumber-libs
dnf remove pulseaudio-libs-glib2 # removed phonon* too
Afterward:
dnf install wireplumber
And reboot. Now logging in TDE produces an endless stream of soundserver popups
that prevents focus from staying anywhere else long enough to do anything but
log out, but logging in on vtty allows:
$ systemctl --user status wireplumber.service
# wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service: enabled; preset: enabled)
Active: inactive (dead)
What's required to end the popups and continue lack of sound diagnosis?
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On 2023-03-05 17:29:04 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
> J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
> > Is there a way for one account to fetch information from another
> > account's DCOP service? If I open a Konsole session that logs into
> > another account's shell, can that shell fetch the SessionName from the
> > DCOP of the Konsole account?
Attached is a snapshot of the Konsole sessions in question. The three sessions with red
terminal icons are root sessions. I want their .bashrc to be able to obtain the tab
titles (SessionName) for self-identification.
Leslie
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