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to know my Trinity version
by ajh-valmer 04 May '24

04 May '24

Hello, I need to remember the command to know my Trinity version. Thanks, André

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tde-14.1.2 and gnome3 on debian/12.5/bookworm - package conflicts
by trinitydesktop.9dio1＠simplelogin.com 04 May '24

04 May '24

Hello. Just installed update to tde 14.1.2 and working fine. Thanks again for a wonderful desktop to use on my debian/12.5.bookworm system. I also use some commercial packages installed over the years, and all has been great. However, recently, I have one commercial package upgrade that is trying to claim because I use tde, I am seeing this problem (it won't run). BTW, if I use the previous version of said package, it works fine. Said package developer/tech support claim it works fine for him on default gnome desktop for debian/12.5. Hence, the incentive to send in this tech support question to tde conflicts that have shown up when I install gnome-3. To install gnome on debian when it is not the default, I issued "sudo apt install task-gnome-desktop". During this install, gnome decides there is a conflict, and wants me to remove "desktop-base-trinity" and "tde-trinity" in order to proceed. This I do. After the new installation, apt is telling me that the following packages are no longer needed and I can autoremove them: "arts-trinity imlib-base imlib11 kig-trinity kuickshow-trinity libarts1-audiofile-trinity libarts1-mpeglib-trinity libtqt3-integration-trinity mpeglib-trinity synaptic-trinity tde-core-trinity tdebase-trinity tdeedu-trinity tdegraphics-trinity tdemultimedia-trinity xcalib". This I do NOT do ! Everything seems to be running as normal on both tde and gnome3. I still use tdm to login, and I can choose between tde and gnome (and variants). If I try to reinstall "desktop-base-trinity" or "tde-trinity", then it looks like a large chunk of gnome packages will be removed, and gnome will not remain intact. I am concerned to also remove the trinity packages listed above for fear it might break my tde desktop. What is the best way to install/configure where tde and gnome can co-exist on debian/12.5. Not that I will slow down using tde in any way, but there might be a reason to run gnome where needed in order to comply. BTW, my said package fails exactly the same way on gnome3 as it is doing on tde, and their tech support is still trying to help. Thanks in advance if you try to help on this.

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Re: how to kill zombies
by William Morder 01 May '24

01 May '24

On Tuesday 23 April 2024 10:30:47 you wrote: > > On one occasion, when I tried to kill dozens of zombie entries marked > > only w, > > What marked these 'w' ? My `ps' man page says there is no such status. > There was 'W' in the 2.6 kernel series, but I assume your system isn't that > archaic. (Or is it?) > Hi Jim! My machine is fairly new, only a couple years old, and I am running Devuan Daedalus, upgraded within the last month. Here are some snips from top. I am only showing lines that relate to zombies or those mysterious processes with the label w. (For security reasons, I prefer not to show everything all at once about my system; such as, e.g., my user name.) Please see attachments. As you can see, I only have one zombie at present -- didn't try to track down what processes are involved -- but at times there have been as many as dozens. They seem to come in dozens or half-dozens, by the way, for reasons unknown to me: above a certain number, they always seem to come in multiples of 6 or 12, like 24, 36, 42. When it gets to be a couple dozen zombies, this irks me, and that's when I want to call in the zombie-killing experts. No, I don't think it's "good" for so many zombies to persist after their parents have quit running, but I also don't notice that my system runs any worse. When I thought that I had identified one of my zombies as one of those mysterious w processes, and tried to kill that, that's when I shut down my session and lost my work; which, obviously, was worse that putting up with zombies. It seems to me that the mysterious w is not any one process, but rather a kind of process that has become a zombie. Otherwise, there could not be, as sometimes happens, half a dozen processes named w. As for the age of my machine or system: the nature of Devuan in spirit is more deliberately set against newfangled shiny toys, and tends to rely on the more reliable stone tools used the hardcore caveman geeks. Bill P.S. Apologies if I sent some duplicate emails. For some reason, my response to Jim, with attachments, did not go through. Please consider this one to be the authorized version ... if it goes through.

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Fwd: TDE Crash Report dialog
by J Leslie Turriff 30 Apr '24

30 Apr '24

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: TDE Crash Report dialog Date: 2024-04-29, 01:17:21 From: "J Leslie Turriff via tde-devels" <devels(a)trinitydesktop.org> To: devels(a)trinitydesktop.org CC: J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff(a)mail.com> Occasionally a TDE component crashes and produces a dialog for reporting the crash. If I fill in my email address and a description, then send it off, where does it go? Is it integrated with the TDE bug reporting system? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.1 tde-config: 1.0 ____________________________________________________ tde-devels mailing list -- devels(a)trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to devels-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/devels@trinitydesk… -------------------------------------------------------

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Re: pointer size adjust
by J Leslie Turriff 29 Apr '24

29 Apr '24

On 2024-03-27 19:04:09 Felix Miata via tde-users wrote: > Where in KControl or elsewhere does one go to make pointer and I-bar large > enough to notice? In peripherals is only (4) mouse cursor themes, where > exist no controls for any sizes. The pointer in TDM is about 4X as large as > in TDE sessions, and appropriate for my needs. Is there a separate package > to provide pointer controls that isn't required in a base installation? I don't think there is a mechanism in KDE3 or Trinity to dynamically size the cursors, but while I was poking around looking for additional ones, I found "Material Cursors" on this web page <https://www.debugpoint.com/best-cursor-themes/> (among some other intriguing ones). "Material Cursors, a longstanding favourite among Linux users, offers a visually captivating cursor theme that has garnered a dedicated following. With three colour variants, namely Material (Blue Grey), Dark, and Light, and multiple size options ranging from 24 to 64 pixels, this cursor theme caters to a wide range of preferences and desktop environments." (In fact, several of the other cursor packages in this article have multiple sizes; and the Gnome-Looks website has lots of others as well.) Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.1 tde-config: 1.0 ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt…

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lock session menu entry
by Felix Miata 29 Apr '24

29 Apr '24

Is there any way to get it out of my menus? Alternatively, is there a way to move it where it won't likely get hit by accident, which is the frequent problem here? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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TDE R14.1.2 released!
by Slávek Banko 29 Apr '24

29 Apr '24

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to tde-announcements, you might be interested in information about the release of R14.1.2: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.1.2 Cheers Slávek --

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Re: network issues - tdenetworkmanager
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 23 Apr '24

23 Apr '24

I just ran into polkit hell + network-manager - like Bill. This is how to get network-manager working for your user, so you do not need to run it as root: Check your permissions - if you get "yes" on all lines, you are good, but then you won't have network-manager issues at all: $ nmcli gen permissions If you don't get "yes on all lines, then create this file: #/etc/polkit-1/rules.d/50-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.rules polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) { if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control") return "yes"; }); Now check again - all lines should say "yes": $ nmcli gen permissions Now you can do bad stuff with network connections from all your systms users, but as you most likely are the only system user it should be ok: $ nmtui Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Need Help Getting Trinity Desktop Environment Running in Termux Proot-Distro Debian
by ddp619＠icloud.com 22 Apr '24

22 Apr '24

Hello everyone, I've been trying to get the Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) up and running in Termux Proot-Distro Debian, but I've hit a roadblock and could use some assistance. I've included the log file below for reference: ``` termux-x11 :1 -xstartup starttde [starttde] Starting starttde. [starttde] This script is /opt/trinity/bin/starttde [starttde] TDE version is R14.1.1 [starttde] TDE base directory is /opt/trinity [starttde] TDEHOME is not set. [starttde] Set TDEHOME to /home/doug/.trinity. [starttde] Setting TDEROOTHOME to /root/.trinity. [starttde] XDG_DATA_DIRS: /opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share [starttde] TDEDIR: /opt/trinity [starttde] TDEDIRS: [starttde] Starting Trinity... Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory [starttde] Trinity hardware control dbus daemon not started. mkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root [tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running... [2024/04/21 09:54:26.947] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections. [starttde] TDE_FULL_SESSION: true [starttde] TDE_SESSION_UID: 1000 [tdeinit] Shutting down running client. ``` It seems that I'm encountering an issue with connecting to the system message bus and starting the Trinity hardware control dbus daemon. Additionally, there's a problem with setting the ownership of `/tmp/.ICE-unix` to root. I've tried troubleshooting on my own but haven't been able to find a solution. If anyone has experience with running TDE in Termux or has any insights into what might be causing these errors, I would greatly appreciate your help. Thank you in advance!

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tdemid default output
by Thierry de Coulon 21 Apr '24

21 Apr '24

Hello all, I happen to have inherited an "old" but stil kicking SoundCanvas SC-88 Pro. So I took out my midisport 2x2 and fired tdemid to see what I could do with it. Works very well as a matter of fact. The only "problem" is that everytime I load a midi file, tdemid defaults to MIDI Through port 0 and I have to change it to midisport. I took a look at the configuration file, but there is nothing there about default output. Maybe it's possible to add some instruction, but where can I find the correct syntax, if any? Thierry

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