Hi all!
I am an Arch user on an old but fine 64-bit machine from about 2008. And
that's one reason I might prefer TDE over mainstream Plasma/KDE, because
it's probably much lighter on resources and has less overhead and
dependencies.
And since I am also a fan of the tiling WM XMonad, I want to make work
both of them together; let's see if it's going to be XMonad inside TDE,
or XMonad along with Trinity's KDE 3.5 apps. And I'm pretty sure they'll
make a good team!
Currently, I have disabled Plasma and simply run XMonad in EMWH desktop
compliant mode (i.e. no KDE/Plasma) invoking single KDE apps, designed
by GTK or GTK/Qt styles, and using alternative status bars. The virtual
desktops are managed by "pcmanfm --desktop"; compositor is xcompmgr (or
betimes compton, the legacy version of picom).
That's my status quo. Soon, I am about to get rid of all of "modern"
KDE, Plasma, and Qt5/6 stuff – prior to installing TDE's binaries!
These are my prime resources of knowledge:
[ https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Trinity#Binary_packages ]
<https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Trinity#Binary_packages>
[ https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unofficial_user_repositories#trinity
] <https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unofficial_user_repositories#trinity>
[ http://trinitydesktop.org/ ] <http://trinitydesktop.org/>
[ https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.11 ]
<https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.11>
Yet there are still a couple of issues and questions:
(1) Failure of the Trinity repo integration
---------------------------------------------
I followed the Arch wiki's instructions for adding key and repo.
$ sudo -i
# pacman-key --recv-keys 0x8685AD8B
gpg: key C93AF1698685AD8B: public key "Trinity Desktop Environment
Archive Signing Key" imported
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 1EB2638FF56C0C53: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: key 1EB2638FF56C0C53: no user ID for key signature packet of class 10
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 1 signed: 7 trusted: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 7 signed: 83 trusted: 1-, 0q, 0n, 6m, 0f, 0u
gpg: depth: 2 valid: 79 signed: 26 trusted: 79-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next "Trust-DB" validation on 2022-01-20
gpg: total number of keys processeed: 1
gpg: imported: 1
# joe /etc/pacman.conf
...
[trinity]
Server = https://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/archlinux
...
Updating the system then fails:
# pacman -Syu
error: trinity: signature from "Trinity Desktop Environment Archive
Signing Key" is unknown trust
error: failed to synchronize all databases (invalid or corrupted
database (PGP signature))
Well, I mean there are "trusted: 79-" = 79 dis-trusted keys and no user
IDs..?
So I wonder if there are any changes, or if the provided gpg key (and
Arch's wiki) is outdated, and would like to ask for the latest valid one.
(2) KDE 3.5 virtual desktop management
---------------------------------------
I am also a fan of different wallpapers for the virtual desktops,
"pcmanfm --desktop" can do that! – So, is KDE 3.5 able to create
individual workspaces?
If yes, I am probably going to run XMonad inside KDE with the
"kdeConfig" module; c.f.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xmonad#KDE_and_xmonadhttps://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_KDE
If no, I will first also trying to do the latter AND to load "pcmanfm
--desktop" with a certain delay. – Or, I dispense with the KDE desktop
and just run KDE apps.
An example: As in [
http://trinitydesktop.org/faq/desktop.php#idm140487998295328 ]
<http://trinitydesktop.org/faq/desktop.php#idm140487998295328>,
does something like
kstart --desktop 1 --activate --window "feh-bg1" 'feh --bg-scale
/path/to/image1.file'
kstart --desktop 2 --activate --window "feh-bg2" 'feh --bg-scale
/path/to/image2.file'
work (to have different walls on desktop #1 and #2)?
(3) Conflicts with official Arch KDE/Plasma stuff?
---------------------------------------------------
I wonder if there aren't any problems having both modern KDE/Plasma/Qt
and Trinity's KDE 3.5/Qt packages in parallel? I don't intend to and
would like to stay with pure Trinity stuff – but couldn't this happen by
accident though: interfering dependency conflicts, or double versions of
KDE apps?
Thanks in advance!
Mike
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Hi everyone:
I am trying to setup 2 monitors. The hardware is:
AMD chipset, ATI video card
screen 3 Vga monitor 20" ( 1600x900 )
screen 2 DVI-I to adapter to Vga monitor 14" ( 1024x768)
I can use display and rotation to the following setup:
screen3 main monitor
screen2 extended desktop
But i have 2 problems and question
1) every boot the screen are cloned and not extended.
How i can do to store permanently the extended configuration?
2) when the screen are cloned i see well into screen 2, but when i switch to
extended the screen 2 the color are degraded like old 16 ega.
How fix it?
Best Regards
Christian
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On Tuesday 07 December 2021 17.50:45 Lynx Medeiros wrote:
> How to put Trinity in Brazilian Portuguese?
> Thanks!
Just a guess, as I use TDE in English, but you should probably install the
corresponding translations.
Probably tde-i18-ptbr-trinity
Thierry
Hello all,
I've been testing a Raspi 4. Works well with the Raspbian Desktop (it's
running Raspbian Buster, latest update, with kernel 5.10.63 and TDE 14.0.12
(PSB).
The problem is I can only get 1024x768. I've set the pi to 1920x1080 with
raspi-config, then 1920x1080 does appear in Trinity Control Center, but
choosing it results in a black screen.
All this works with a Pi 3B+ (although I have not updated the distribution).
Anyone running TDE on a Pi 4?
Thierry
Christian Schmitz wrote:
> extended the screen 2 the color are degraded like old 16 ega.
> How fix it?
On the intel GPU on the HP EliteBook 850 G4
Section "Device"
...
Option "TearFree" "off" # [<bool>]
...
EndSection
When I originally set up Kmail, I used the Spam Wizard to handle spam. It puts it into a
folder called 0_Spam? (0_ to keep it near the top of the folder list), but doesn't mark
it as 'read' so that I know it's there.
I can also use the Message => Apply Filter => Filter Classify as spam action to mark
stuff that gets past the regular spam filter. Since at that point I've already decided
that it's spam, it would be nice to have it mark it as 'read' in addition to putting it
into 0_Spam?; is it possible to do that somehow?
Leslie
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Operating System: Linux
Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.0.11
tde-config: 1.0
On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 8:38 PM, Mike Bird <mgb-trinity(a)yosemite.net> wrote:
To: users(a)trinitydesktop.org
On Thu December 2 2021 17:24:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
> Was "Debian desktop environment" unchecked?
>
> yes
Hi Gene,
It sounds like this is where your problem starts. It's not
a problem I have seen when using Debian and it's not a TDE
problem but hopefully the Debian people can find a solution
for you.
TDE related questions on the debian list have historicly been ignored.
I'll have to see if they can tell me how to do a no gui text install. But
first, stash the trinity.list file and the updated keyfile deb some place that
will survive the bare metal reinstall. I can't install anything from the
repo list until I update the keyfile, the one on your web page has expired
or ? IDK.
It should be updated to be the new one in the repo.
Cheers Mike, Gene
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On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 7:57 PM, Mike Bird <mgb-trinity(a)yosemite.net> wrote:
To: users(a)trinitydesktop.org
On Thu December 2 2021 16:43:15 Gene Heskett wrote:
> Did you check the last (standard utils box) and optionally (your choice)
> check the penultimate (ssh) box and leave all the other boxes unchecked?
> You especially do not want the first box (Desktop) checked if you're not
> installing a Desktop using this installer.
>
> gnome desktop was unchecked
>
>
> Is this where it "refused to proceed", if not where?
>
>
> What error did it give when it "refused to proceed"?
>
> It didn't, just kept looping back until I selected xfce4.
Was "Debian desktop environment" unchecked?
yes
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