6 Jan
2022
6 Jan
'22
5:32 p.m.
tde-users is currently the main source of the spam I receive. In fact, all
the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
Slavek, is it possible with this mailing list software to do the suggestion
I made a couple months ago? That is, have new users set to "Moderated"
until they've made a legitimate post. That's been 100% effective at
eliminating spam on mailing lists I've managed.
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6 Jan
6 Jan
5:53 p.m.
On Thursday 06 January 2022 12:32:33 pm Dan Youngquist wrote:
tde-users is currently the main source of the spam I
receive. In fact, all
the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
Slavek, is it possible with this mailing list software to do the suggestion
I made a couple months ago? That is, have new users set to "Moderated"
until they've made a legitimate post. That's been 100% effective at
eliminating spam on mailing lists I've managed.
I take the time to create spam filters with kshowmail and kmail but I've been
doing it so long it's second nature.
+1 to the moderation however.
Kate
7:07 p.m.
Anno domini 2022 Thu, 6 Jan 12:53:28 -0500
Borg Labs scripsit:
On Thursday 06 January 2022 12:32:33 pm Dan Youngquist wrote:
If really needed just filter for hyperkitty in the mail header. All spam on TDE lists in
the last year came from the web interface.
Nik
tde-users is currently the main source of the
spam I receive. In fact, all
the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
Slavek, is it possible with this mailing list software to do the suggestion
I made a couple months ago? That is, have new users set to "Moderated"
until they've made a legitimate post. That's been 100% effective at
eliminating spam on mailing lists I've managed.
I take the time to create spam filters with kshowmail and kmail but I've been
doing it so long it's second nature.
+1 to the moderation however.
Kate
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6:21 p.m.
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 12:32:33 PM EST Dan Youngquist wrote:
tde-users is currently the main source of the spam I
receive. In fact,
all the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
I can almost say the same.
Slavek, is it possible with this mailing list software
to do the
suggestion I made a couple months ago? That is, have new users set to
"Moderated" until they've made a legitimate post. That's been 100%
effective at eliminating spam on mailing lists I've managed.
Excellent idea.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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9 Jan
9 Jan
12:02 a.m.
On 1/6/22 9:32 AM, Dan Youngquist wrote:
tde-users is currently the main source of the spam I
receive. In fact, all
the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
Aaaand... 4 new spam messages from tde-users just today, so far. I'd hoped
for at least a comment from Slavek on whether or not my suggested solution
is possible.
On 1/6/22 9:53 AM, Borg Labs wrote:
I take the time to create spam filters with kshowmail
and kmail but I've
been doing it so long it's second nature.
My mail server runs SpamAssassin, but
it gives these spams a very low score,
so not even close to catching them. Thunderbird's junk filter misses most
of them. And I don't see anything unique about them that I could filter on.
The closest I can see is that they all come from a gmail address formatted
as <name><number>(a)gmail.comt;@gmail.com, but so do a lot of legitimate posts, including
yours.
On 1/6/22 11:07 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
If really needed just filter for hyperkitty in the
mail header. All spam
on TDE lists in the last year came from the web interface.
That would have to be an
extreme last-resort solution, because I don't see a
way to do it without also filtering any legitimate posts that come via the
web interface. Or is there something I'm missing?
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7:51 a.m.
On Sunday 09 January 2022 01.02:37 Dan Youngquist wrote:
My mail server runs SpamAssassin, but it gives these
spams a very low
score, so not even close to catching them. Thunderbird's junk filter
misses most of them. And I don't see anything unique about them that I
could filter on. The closest I can see is that they all come from a gmail
address formatted as <name><number>(a)gmail.comt;@gmail.com, but so do a lot of
legitimate posts, including yours.
I use Spamdrain (which is not a free service) because I wanted my mails
filtered for my smartphone too. It does catch them (although it catches a few
legitimate one too, from time to time).
So there should be a way to day they are spam.
Thierry
8:04 a.m.
Anno domini 2022 Sat, 8 Jan 16:02:37 -0800
Dan Youngquist scripsit:
On 1/6/22 9:32 AM, Dan Youngquist wrote:
[..]
On 1/6/22 11:07 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
There have been no such mails but from users calling for help 'cause their address got
flaged as spam (I'm one victim). But that's not what the list is usually about.
Nik
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If really needed just filter for hyperkitty in
the mail header. All spam
on TDE lists in the last year came from the web interface.
That would have to be
an extreme last-resort solution, because I don't see a
way to do it without also filtering any legitimate posts that come via the
web interface. Or is there something I'm missing?
8:56 a.m.
Dan Youngquist composed on 2022-01-08 16:02 (UTC-0800):
Dan Youngquist wrote:
> tde-users is currently the main source of the spam
I receive. In fact, all
> the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
Aaaand... 4 new spam messages from tde-users just
today, so far. I'd hoped
for at least a comment from Slavek on whether or not my suggested solution
is possible.
Methinks people are too sensitive about the stupid nuisance that is
SPAM, and
don't give Slavek slack to do the most important things with the time he has to
spend on the project. Same goes for other contributors. Their available time only
goes so far. They're people, not robots. If and when time permits, I'm sure
they'll do something about it if it's possible and still necessary.
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9:41 a.m.
On 09/01/2022 08:56, Felix Miata wrote:
Dan Youngquist composed on 2022-01-08 16:02
(UTC-0800):
> Dan Youngquist wrote:
>> tde-users is currently the main source of the spam I receive. In fact, all
>> the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
> Aaaand... 4 new spam messages from tde-users just today, so far. I'd hoped
> for at least a comment from Slavek on whether or not my suggested solution
> is possible.
The odd thing is, whilst I do receive the occasional spam here, I
haven't received _any_ during the time span of this particular thread so
not _all_ the patrons here are getting the spam you are. Probably
vice-versa too. Odd.
Methinks people are too sensitive about the stupid
nuisance that is SPAM, and
don't give Slavek slack to do the most important things with the time he has to
spend on the project. Same goes for other contributors. Their available time only
goes so far. They're people, not robots. If and when time permits, I'm sure
they'll do something about it if it's possible and still necessary.
It should not be down to developers to run the list, unless of course
they are masochists :)
--
Michael Howard.
8:01 p.m.
On 2022-01-09 03:41:18 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
Leslie
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On 09/01/2022 08:56, Felix Miata wrote:
Some of us just delete them without complaining. :-)
Dan Youngquist composed on 2022-01-08 16:02
(UTC-0800):
> Dan Youngquist wrote:
>> tde-users is currently the main source of the spam I receive. In fact,
>> all the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
>
> Aaaand... 4 new spam messages from tde-users just today, so far. I'd
> hoped for at least a comment from Slavek on whether or not my suggested
> solution is possible.
The odd thing is, whilst I do receive the occasional spam here, I
haven't received _any_ during the time span of this particular thread so
not _all_ the patrons here are getting the spam you are. Probably
vice-versa too. Odd. Methinks people are too sensitive about the
stupid nuisance that is
SPAM, and don't give Slavek slack to do the most important things with
the time he has to spend on the project. Same goes for other
contributors. Their available time only goes so far. They're people, not
robots. If and when time permits, I'm sure they'll do something about it
if it's possible and still necessary.
It should not be down to developers to run the list, unless of course
they are masochists :)
10 Jan
10 Jan
12:25 a.m.
On 1/9/22 12:01 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Some of us just delete them without complaining. :-)
Which is exactly what I do. I also occasionally make suggestions when it
might be possible to improve something for everyone's benefit. If that
offends you for some reason, deal with it and keep it to yourself.
I would never have imagined I'd see people defending leaving a mailing list
open to spam, when it might be possible to easily eliminate it.
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12:25 a.m.
On 09/01/2022 20:01, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2022-01-09 03:41:18 Michael Howard via tde-users
wrote:
I haven't complained. Maybe you didn't read my reply properly. :-)
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On 09/01/2022 08:56, Felix Miata wrote:
Some of us just delete them without complaining. :-) Dan Youngquist composed on 2022-01-08 16:02
(UTC-0800):
> Dan Youngquist wrote:
>> tde-users is currently the main source of the spam I receive. In fact,
>> all the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
> Aaaand... 4 new spam messages from tde-users just today, so far. I'd
> hoped for at least a comment from Slavek on whether or not my suggested
> solution is possible.
The odd thing is, whilst I do receive the occasional
spam here, I
haven't received _any_ during the time span of this particular thread so
not _all_ the patrons here are getting the spam you are. Probably
vice-versa too. Odd.
5:38 a.m.
On 2022-01-09 18:25:20 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
On 09/01/2022 20:01, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Okay, maybe I should have used 'commenting'.
Leslie
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On 2022-01-09 03:41:18 Michael Howard via
tde-users wrote:
I haven't complained. Maybe you didn't read my reply properly. :-) On 09/01/2022 08:56, Felix Miata wrote:
Some of us just delete them without complaining. :-) Dan Youngquist composed on 2022-01-08 16:02
(UTC-0800):
> Dan Youngquist wrote:
>> tde-users is currently the main source of the spam I receive. In
>> fact, all the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from
>> tde-users.
>
> Aaaand... 4 new spam messages from tde-users just today, so far. I'd
> hoped for at least a comment from Slavek on whether or not my
> suggested solution is possible.
The odd thing is, whilst I do receive the occasional spam here, I
haven't received _any_ during the time span of this particular thread so
not _all_ the patrons here are getting the spam you are. Probably
vice-versa too. Odd.
9 Jan
9 Jan
3:53 p.m.
On Sunday 09 January 2022 03:56:18 am Felix Miata wrote:
Dan Youngquist composed on 2022-01-08 16:02
(UTC-0800):
I agree. It's s simple thing to blocklist a spammer. If it's a unique domain,
filter out the domain in both kmail or the like and kshowmail or the like.
I barely get any spam using these tools and methods.
In kmail use both both filters and pop filters. There's also anti spam tools
under tools.
Kate
Dan Youngquist wrote:
Methinks people are too sensitive about the stupid nuisance that is SPAM,
and don't give Slavek slack to do the most important things with the time
he has to spend on the project. Same goes for other contributors. Their
available time only goes so far. They're people, not robots. If and when
time permits, I'm sure they'll do something about it if it's possible and
still necessary. tde-users is currently the main source of the
spam I receive. In fact,
all the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
Aaaand... 4 new spam messages from tde-users just today, so far. I'd
hoped for at least a comment from Slavek on whether or not my suggested
solution is possible. 
4 p.m.
On Sunday 09 January 2022 00:56:18 Felix Miata wrote:
Dan Youngquist composed on 2022-01-08 16:02
(UTC-0800):
+1
The spam is a nuisance, yeah, but unless somebody wants to volunteer for the
job, we ought to just let Slavek get to it when he has time.
Bill
P.S.
By the way, I am having spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, and spam.
;-]
Dan Youngquist wrote:
Methinks people are too sensitive about the stupid nuisance that is SPAM,
and don't give Slavek slack to do the most important things with the time
he has to spend on the project. Same goes for other contributors. Their
available time only goes so far. They're people, not robots. If and when
time permits, I'm sure they'll do something about it if it's possible and
still necessary. tde-users is currently the main source of the
spam I receive. In fact,
all the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
Aaaand... 4 new spam messages from tde-users just today, so far. I'd
hoped for at least a comment from Slavek on whether or not my suggested
solution is possible.
5:43 p.m.
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 11:00:36 AM EST William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
On Sunday 09 January 2022 00:56:18 Felix Miata wrote:
Chuckle.. Sounds like you are getting edible spam, Bill. What I get isn't
edible. Once you do business online with some outfit you are on their
mailing list forever, getting a 2-3x daily bombardment for every new IC chip
or potatoe peeler that's been on their shelf long enough to need dusting.
How do you separate the spam from the order confirmation and tracking
notices from the same outfit? The sales folks take advantage of the fact
that you have done business with them and can't handily write a rule to
separate the business from the BS. Since I'm a long retired JOAT, my spam
here is, shall we say, varigated. It is a PITA, but then the delete key is
only about 4" from the + key on my keyboards and both work just fine.
____________________________________________________
Dan Youngquist composed on 2022-01-08 16:02
(UTC-0800):
+1
The spam is a nuisance, yeah, but unless somebody wants to volunteer for
the job, we ought to just let Slavek get to it when he has time.
Bill
P.S.
By the way, I am having spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, and
spam.
;-] Dan Youngquist wrote:
Methinks people are too sensitive about the stupid nuisance that is
SPAM,
and don't give Slavek slack to do the most important things with the
time
he has to spend on the project. Same goes for other contributors. Their
available time only goes so far. They're people, not robots. If and when
time permits, I'm sure they'll do something about it if it's possible
and
still necessary. tde-users is currently the main source of the
spam I receive. In
fact,
all the spam in my Junk folder at the moment came from tde-users.
Aaaand... 4 new spam messages from tde-users just today, so far. I'd
hoped for at least a comment from Slavek on whether or not my
suggested
solution is possible. tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org
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