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tde-mirror-01 upcoming Maintenance
by Michael 25 Aug '21

25 Aug '21

Hello All, There is routine maintenance scheduled at one of the hosting firms IDA uses for Thursday, 26th August 2021, beginning at 1:00 AM UTC. The maintenance window will be 4 hours with an expectation of at least 1 hour of server unavailability. Servers : Srv06, Srv09, & tde-mirror-01 Start Time: 2021-08-26 07:00 PM CST [US] End Time : 2021-08-26 11:00 PM CST [US] During the period of actual downtime, you will not be able to access your website(s), your dashboard(s), or other services located on these servers. We apologize for the late notice and the inconvenience. Best Regards Everyone, Michael Internet Design Alliance, owner http://inet-design.com/ Hours (US CST): Mon - Thur, 8am - 6pm | Fri, 8am - Noon Emergency calls: 24x7

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Installing Trinity on Ubuntu
by danapple＠danapple.com 22 Aug '21

22 Aug '21

In order to upgrade Trinity Desktop from R14.0.6 to R14.0.10, I have attempted to follow the instructions on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst… However, I get this error in synaptic: The repository 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x ubuntu Release' does not have a Release file.Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.The repository 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x ubuntu Release' does not have a Release file. I have tried adding the list in /etc/apt/sources.list and have switched to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity-ubuntu-bionic.list which results in the same error. The lines, as inserted, read: deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x ubuntu main deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x ubuntu main I have also tried to replace .x with .10 with the same results. I did "Import GPG signing key" Any ideas? Sincerely, Daniel.

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SDD puzzle
by dep 20 Aug '21

20 Aug '21

Hi, everybody! (I hope you hear Dr. Nick's voice when you read this line.) My SDD boot . . . isn't booting. Here's how it unfolded: I popped the side off the case so as to install a couple of top-facing exhaust fans, controlled by the motherboard, bring the total case fan count to five (two intake, three exhaust), because with that many fans none ever really spins up, so the computer is next to silent. That's all I did in there. I came nowhere near anything having to do with any of the drives. When I fired up the computer again I got the usual GRUB menu, the second item of which was the 20.04-LTS installation on /dev/sdc1. I chose it. And it booted forthwith -- to the 20.04-LTS installation on /dev/sda1. No errors, nothing. Just booted the wrong drive. The SDD (sdc) is working fine -- I can mount it, navigate in it, read and write to it. Any troubleshooting ideas that don't involve disassembly? This was working fine yesterday and isn't today. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Speak of the devil . . .
by dep 20 Aug '21

20 Aug '21

I did a regular softrware update on my boot drive -- the SSD at /dev/sdc1 -- and got this: Configuration file '/etc/grub.d/10_linux' ==> Deleted (by you or by a script) since installation. ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions Z : start a shell to examine the situation The default action is to keep your current version. *** 10_linux (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? I did "D" but have no clue as to what is right here. After looking at it for a few minutes and ending up no more enlightened than I was when I started, I kept the default. The first line of the thing is +# grub-mkconfig helper script. It contains things such as +# Default to disabling partition uuid support to maintian compatibility with +# older kernels. +GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_PARTUUID=${GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_PARTUUID-true} Ought I have let it install? It seems a bad idea, but that is totally a guess. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Fwd: Re: Debian 11 released
by Edward 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

/Apparently, my emails from Caramail/GMX aren't making it to the list, so I've subscribed using a different e-mail. I hope this resolves whatever the issue is/was.// // //This e-mail was sent earlier this afternoon via Caramail/GMX and never made it to the list./ -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [tde-users] Re: Debian 11 released Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 12:47:48 -0400 From: Edward To: users(a)trinitydesktop.org On 8/18/21 8:19 AM, deloptes wrote: > Edward wrote: > >>> Debian has released version 11, bullseye. Should the current TDE >>> (buster) packages work with bullseye until the packages are updated? >>> >>> Thanks. >> Confirming the TDE desktop (buster) came up fine, after upgrading Debian >> to bullseye. > It is not recommended to use packages compiled for buster on the bullseye. > While most of the code would work, there is no guarantee that things > are not > broken. > You better use TDE for bullseye instead (replace buster with bullseye in > your source.list). This is what I've done, I'm now using the stable preliminary builds of the TDE packages for Bullseye. I commented out the original repo lines for Buster in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Ed -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.11-pre - Debian: 11 (amd64)

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Re: Debian 11 released
by Edward 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

On 8/16/21 3:55 AM, Michele Calgaro wrote: > On 2021/08/16 12:36:08 AM, Edward wrote: >> On 8/15/21 10:15 AM, Edward wrote: >>> Debian has released version 11, bullseye. Should the current TDE >>> (buster) packages work with bullseye until the packages are updated? >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> Confirming the TDE desktop (buster) came up fine, after upgrading Debian >> to bullseye. >> >> > > Hi Edward, > you could use PSB packages for bullseye ;-) so you also get rolling > updates of the changes > that will go into the next release. > > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds Hi Michele, Thank you for this information. I went this route and added the lines to apt/etc/sources.list. Apt successfully retrieved and installed the R14.0.11-pre packages and it also resolved the binutils issue. The first desktop is working perfectly. I will do the same on my other desktop. The original 'buster' entries for 14.0.10 were left as they were in the sources.list file. Ed -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.11-pre - Debian: 11 (amd64)

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Debian 11 released
by Edward 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

Debian has released version 11, bullseye. Should the current TDE (buster) packages work with bullseye until the packages are updated? Thanks. -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)

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switching to sdd boot drive
by dep 14 Aug '21

14 Aug '21

Greets, folks . . . The nifty little WD 500gb SSD has arrived. I stuck it into a little USB adapter device and seem to have succeeded in dd'ing my boot partition. /dev/sda1, onto it. I have employed the appropriate utility to give it a unique ID, and have labeled its first partition as BOOT. (My home partition, on the existing /dev/sda, is labeled HOME, and /etc/fstab are edited to mount LABEL=BOOT as / and LABEL=HOME as /home.) If things weren't unnecessarily complicated, I could go into the bios and tell it to boot from USB and check the thing before I mounted it permanently. Ah, but . . . There's no nice, normal setting to set boot order in the frigging bios! I can't tell it to just boot from USB and call it a day. Instead, it offers a variety of choices that include booting from a drive that has no operating system at all, so it's not smart or anything like that. I did update-grub on the existing hard drive installation and it saw and added the SSD install. Here things get weird: sometimes it shows it and sometimes it doesn't. Ubuntu in its wisdom has screwed around with the GRUB2 menu. Initially it didn't't show up at all; after I dicked around with it a little a few days ago I got it to appear. Even then, it isn't a GRUB menu as we know it. By fiddling around with the bios I can get a menu that contains the SSD -- /dev/ssd1 -- to show up in the GRUB menu, but sometimes not. And even then, if I select the SSD installation, it does fiddle a little with the SSD on the way in, but boots to the /dev/sda1 install. Now, this is especially problematic because the hard drive boot is, as I mentioned, from /dev/sda1, while /home is /dev/sda3, so just yanking that drive is not among the relatively convenient possibilities. I'd like to boot from it, of course, for reasons including the ability to run update-grub on it, so that the default boot would be from the SSD when it is happily installed in the system. (After which I'd open a terminal and again run update-grub so that GRUB would get everything in its final configuration, with booting from the hard drive possible in case of SSD failure.) Any ideas? Prefarably as opposed to guesses? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Re: GTK 3 TQt Engine Styles
by Leskala 12 Aug '21

12 Aug '21

> I use a GTK 3 application ("Revolt" on Debian/Devuan) and its titlebar is > so ugly. I tried to use my TDE style for it in "GTK Styles and Fonts" and > it only makes it worse. GTK 2 applications look much nicer with Tqt3 > integration, but GTK 3... It's an eyesore no matter what, to say the > least.This brings me to my question - is there any way to make GTK 3 apps > integrate more nicely into TDE? I have gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity installed > but there's only the default style available or use my TDE theme for it > (which breaks it and makes it look worse). For GTK3 I recommend installing the package "gtk3-nocsd". It will force GTK3 applications to refrain from drawing their own titlebar (client-side decoration as the Gnome folks call it) and will restore the TDE titlebars instead. Secondly, I recommend the GTK2/3 theme "TraditionalOk" from the "mate-themes" package of the Debian repositories, which gets quite close to TDE's Plastik theme. Once installed, you should be able to select it for GTK3 in the "GTK Styles and Fonts" panel of the control center. Best regards, Leskala

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Raise/Lower is seems backwards
by danapple＠danapple.com 11 Aug '21

11 Aug '21

Hello! For Window Behavior, I have Modifier key + mouse wheel: "Raise/Lower" This is a great feature which I use all of the time. However, the motion of the mouse wheel seems backwards to what the window actually does. When I pull the wheel towards me, the window moves lower in the stack, which means that it appears to move away from me. Of course, I've been using KDE 3.5/Trinity for ten years in this manner, so I have somewhat gotten used to it. :-) However, I think it would be fantastic to have the option to reverse the sense of the mouse wheel of this. What do you think of adding a Lower/Raise option which functions the same as the current Raise/Lower, but with the reversed sense? I think this would be a more natural mapping, at least for some of us, and would not detract from anybody else's use of this functionality. Sincerely, Daniel.

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