On Sat June 12 2021 16:08:16 dep via tde-users wrote:
> But, you see, I do not give a toot for those specifications. I would like
> items to appear in alphabetical order on my computer on my desk. I do not
> propose that you must do that. I do not propose that anyone else must do
> that. I propose that I be able to do that.
Does opening /opt/trinity/bin in konqueror get you where you want to be?
You can add a non-TDE button to a panel (see attached) and click on it to
bring up the "menu".
--Mike
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 31 May 00:43:45 -0500
J Leslie Turriff scripsit:
> On 2021-05-30 12:10:34 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Things might be different with pulseaudio, but that thing never worked for
> > me, probably the bad carma of it's creator still sticks on it.
> >
> > Nik
>
> My experience with pulseaudio is the same; I have learned to forbid its installation, and
> I stick with ALSA.
> BTW, when I right-click on the KMix applet and choose Select Master Channel, I just get a
> radio-button list, no way to choose an underlying device. (?)
Interesting. In your screenshot the dropdownlist with the selectable soundcards is missing. Here's what I get on my system.
Nik
>
> Leslie
> --
> Operating System: Linux
> Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.2 x86_64
> Desktop Environment: Trinity
> Qt: 3.5.0
> TDE: R14.0.10
> tde-config: 1.0
>
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Hello everyone,
I was advised to come here since I'm aware that there are at least a few
that use TDE on FreeBSD. I have the port from the gitea repository but
I've had a number of issues. I'm still fairly new to FreeBSD so sorry if
I seem inexperienced. I am especially new to using ports since I only
have one or two on my system. Let me try to elaborate what I've done so far:
I first attempted installing TDE in the beginning of May, which is when
I first switched from Devuan to FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE. This was right
after the R14.0.10 release. I had the freebsd TDE folder and assumed I
needed to build it with make install clean, as most ports are, and I
(from what I remember) think it worked until I hit a snag. I stopped
there and settled with Xfce which I was already using for the time being
and completely forgot what the snag was.
I then tried it again yesterday, as I missed using TDE very much (as its
most certainly my favorite desktop environment, which is why I'm subbed
to these lists now =D ). I removed my desktop environment and login
manager (Xfce + LightDM), and cloned the tde-packaging freebsd port once
again. I had to run /make install clean///as root (I used doas, probably
also did this the first attempt and just forgot), and everything was
good and well until about 30 minutes into the make process when I
received an error about pinentry-tqt. You can see my issue here:
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde-packaging/issues/86.
At this point, I was in a conversation on Matrix and a TDE user on
Slackware was trying to help me out the best he could. I had been trying
to fix it all day and by the end of it had a massive headache so I quit
and installed Fluxbox temporarily (needed a way to communicate easier as
well). I had tampered with the make directory quite a bit without
backing it up so now I cloned it again and am making sure to keep an
unmodified copy (so I don't have to go through the process of getting it
all again with my horrible internet..)
So this morning I'm back at square one, which is why I'm here to ask how
did any of you install it on FreeBSD? Did you run into the same issues,
and is there any idea how I can go about getting it to work? I feel like
I'm probably doing something wrong.
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Anno domini 2021 Sat, 5 Jun 16:04:28 -0500
Hunter scripsit:
> > Oh that pinentry-tqt ... did you try building with portmaster? That was what I did and it did not turn out well. I had to build everything manually.
> >
> > This is what I did, when it hit me:
> >
> > - uninstall everything trinity
> > - delete the ports tree of trinity
> > - pkg autoremove
> > - clone tde-packaging again, switch banch, enter freebsd/dependencies
> > - manually enter each packages directory and do "make install clean"
> > - same process for the core/...
> >
> > Then modify /etc/ttys to your needs, i.e. make it start tdm instead of xdm.
> >
> > Ohm and to speed up things I interrupted the make process whenever another package was about to be built that was also in packages. Installed that package, marked it as auto and run make again. Most likely there's a better way of doing this, but ... :)
> >
> > Nik
>
> Thank you very much, I will give this a try!
>
> Do I do the same for freebsd/applications (as in, manually enter and
> "make install clean"? I also forgot to mention I tried to edit the
> makefiles my first try since I didn't need certain applications like
> Dolphin (I like Konqueror as a file browser) for example. Also in core,
> could I skip most of the internationalization files since I only speak
> English?
Yes, all the same. Manually enter the folder of the package you like to buld, "make install clean", move to the next.
Don't use the "big" Makefiles:
/usr/ports/x11/trinity/Makefile
.../applications/Makefile
.../core/Makefile
.../dependencies/Makefile
.../libraries/Makefile
- just use them to determine the order in wich the packages need to be built.
These are the packages I built. You'll not need *-tde-i18n-trinity if you just need english:
$ pkg info|grep 14.0.10
akode-14.0.10 akode plugin for aRts
arts-trinity-14.0.10 aRts (analog realtime synthesizer) - the TDE sound system
avahi-tqt-14.0.10 Avahi TQt integration library
dbus-1-tqt-14.0.10 D-Bus bindings for the Trinity Qt interface
dbus-tqt-14.0.10 TQt D-Bus inter-process communication module
de-tde-i18n-trinity-14.0.10 Messages and documentation for TDE - de
libart_lgpl-14.0.10,1 Library for high-performance 2D graphics
libcaldav-14.0.10 libcaldav provides a C interface for caldav PIM clients
libcarddav-14.0.10 libcarddav provides a C interface for carddav PIM clients
libtqca-14.0.10 libtqca provides TQt interface for security plugins
libtqtinterface-14.0.10 Trinity TQt Interface
tdeaccessibility-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity accessibility apps
tdeaddons-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity add-on plugins and applets
tdeadmin-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity system administration tools
tdeartwork-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity themes, styles and more
tdebase-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity Base Programs
tdegames-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity games
tdegraphics-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity graphics apps
tdelibs-trinity-14.0.10 Core libraries and binaries for all TDE applications
tdemultimedia-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity multimedia apps
tdenetwork-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity network-related apps
tdepim-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity Personal Information Management apps
tdesdk-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity software development kit
tdeutils-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity general purpose utilities
tdevelop-trinity-14.0.10 Trinity IDE for Unix/X11
tqca-tls-14.0.10 TLS plugin for the TQt Cryptographic Architecture (TQCA)
tqmake-14.0.10 The build utility of the TQt from Trinity
tqt3-14.0.10 Multiplatform C++ application framework
tqt3-sqlite3-plugin-14.0.10 TQt3 SQLite 3.x database plugin
Nik
>
> - Hunter aka hunter0one
>
>
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greetings, everybody . . .
having just completed the ordeal of moving my ubuntu 18.04 install from a
2-tb drive that was popping up increasingly strident messages warning of
its impending doom to a 6-tb drive and thus enduring the process of going
from MBR to UEFI, the time fast approaches for me to go 18.04 > 20.04.
before i do that, though, i thought i'd check and see if there's any
definitive solution to the r14-xdg-update error messages that have come
here at the startup of TDE (R14.0.10, currently) for many months now. in
that i rarely reboot, it's not been a huge problem, but i presume they're
there for a reason and before i upgrade i thought i'd try to fix the
problem. i searched the archives and found no evidence of a solution.
so: is there a solution? if there isn't, is there any harm in just clicking
the (several) boxes that pop up and living with the perceived error?
that's what i've been doing, but i've never been happy about it.
thanks very much in advance for any useful information that might be
proffered.
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I thought it unusual that this machine was not getting updates, while the
one machine tool machine I had tde installed on was. So I looked at the
repo list in synaptic and found the deb line for r14 had become
unchecked. Checked it, and refreshed. That brought in 313 packages, or
tried to, reporting that it wasn't successfull at pulling them all. But
when it had installed what it could, I then did another refresh, but it
then did not mark any more new ones. Ack the log, the server hung up on
me.
Since I was then about 110 days of uptime and that many updates it needed
to restart the dbus apache2 and tdm kin. I checked them, clicked fwd and
was greeted by a bash login on tty1. Logged in and did a sudo reboot. A
bit slower than I recall, but but a lot was changed and things seem to
be running ok now.
But I am left with a suspicion I might not be pulling from the latest
mirror. ISTR it was moved several months back, so would someone be kind
enough to paste the latest repo line to me?
Thanks a bunch.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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. . . protonvpn, which i half expected (it blew up on 18.04 -> 20,04 on
another machine here, too) and the sound system, to the extent that the
little kmixer icon in kicker has a black stripe across it, as if it's in
mourning for Nik's troubles of a few days ago. the whole thing has worked
so well and for so ling that i've forgotten even where to look.
guesses? all i know at this point is aforementioned apparent bereavement.
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. . . i'm reminded that running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade isn't done until
it has been invoked twice with a "no packages to upgrade" message. it
works in fits and starts until then.
and i'm noticing the downloading of thousands of packages that i do not use
and will never use. yes, i use some gnome applications. no, i do not now
run nor have i ever willingly run the gnome desktop, nor unity, nor
kde-post-3x. surely i don't need the whole damned things in order to use a
few applications. i understand an s-load of libraries and such, but my
favoring synaptic doesn't imply my need to 40mb of gnome wallpapers. and,
fact is, for the few gnome applications i run, i'd far rather have stock
TDE furniture (crollbars, etc.) than the silly crap the gnomes think is
oh, so cute (possibly because they've never used a computer to do actual
work). okay, end of rant.
grrr.
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