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Please shuffle off with the off topic topics
by Mike Bird 09 Oct '21

09 Oct '21

Let's not annoy users and make it more difficult to search the archives. There's plenty of appropriate forums so you don't need to discuss off topic topics here. Thanks, --Mike

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TDE Matrix.org room?
by Michael 09 Oct '21

09 Oct '21

On Thursday 07 October 2021 11:05:50 am E. Liddell wrote: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 09:19:05 +0200 > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <dr.klepp(a)gmx.at> wrote: > > Anno domini 2021 Wed, 06 Oct 14:37:41 -0500 > > > > Hunter via tde-users scripsit: > > > I think that the mailing list may not be the best way to reach users, > > > although its certainly more active than the IRC channel. As an > > > alternative, I have a TDE Matrix room if anyone is interested and it > > > needs to grow: #trinity-desktop:halogen.city > > > > I might sound ignorant, but what's a "Matrix room"? > > I assume it's an on-line venue accessible through the matrix messaging > network (see matrix.org ). Hey Hunter, I wandered around matrix.org, and it’s pretty confusing as to what it actually does. Would you mind providing some links that give a good high level summary of what this Matrix thing is? What it provides (is it some variant of forum software?)? What a person would need to do to be able to use it? And how you envision it being able to replace the TDE mailing lists? (<= I’m assuming that’s what you’re meaning.) Case in point, this https://matrix.org/docs/guides/introduction might be good for a hardcore geek, but to the average Joe Linux user it’s mostly gobbledygook. Thanks, Michael

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Centralised EU censorship blocks mails !?
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 08 Oct '21

08 Oct '21

Hi all! Maybe some have alredy noticed: the new EU censorship regime is randomly blocking mails to mailinglist like TDE. I just had a talk with my mail provider and it's not encouraging. e.g: My last reply to the list with the link from hunters mail (I cannot place the link in here, 'cause it blocks this mail) was blocked from sending by the providers SMTP server as spam. GMX deleted the mail without any error message. For now the filters work on the message body, not the mail headers. So my question: Can we set up a gnupgp public key to the list, so that the mails cannot be suppressed by the cencorship mail content filters? The encrypted mails can be decryptied automaticly and the fed into the mailinglist. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Re: twin-style-suse2 for openSUSE Leap 15.2
by J Leslie Turriff 08 Oct '21

08 Oct '21

On 2021-10-05 19:04:04 Gianluca Interlandi wrote: > Thank you François and other developers for porting SUSE2 to TDE. I tried > it out and it looks nice. I just wanted to mention two things that look a > bit different from KDE3: > > 1) In twin-style-suse2 there is a thin white line around a window while in > the original KDE3 SUSE2 style there is a dark gray line that surrounds a > window giving it a feeling of depth. > > 2) In the original KDE3 style the title bar of an inactive window is light > gray while in twin-style-suse2 it is blue-grayish > > I attach a screenshot of KDE3 SUSE2 style showing the two points above. > > I wonder whether these two things can be changed by simply adjusting other > settings in TDE control center or whether it is simply the result of > porting. Nonetheless, it's minor things one can adjust to. > > Thanks a lot! TDE is a fantastic project! > > Gianluca > > On Fri, 2 Jul 2021, François Andriot via tde-users wrote: > > Le 01/07/2021 à 23:23, Gianluca Interlandi a écrit : > >> On Thu, 1 Jul 2021, François Andriot via tde-users wrote: > >>> Hello, I'm trying to build this package on opensuse 15.2, Trinity > >>> 14.0.10, and it does not build currently. > >>> > >>> I've opened a ticket: > >>> https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde-common-cmake/issues > >>>/74 > >> > >> Thanks so much François for working on this. > >> > >> Gianluca > > > > Hello, thanks to Slavek's quick fix, I've managed to build the package. > > It will soon appear on mirrors for opensuse Leap 15.2 and 15.3, with name > > "trinity-twin-style-suse2". > > Other distros will follow soon. > > > > François I believe that that feature is controlled by Appearance and Themes => Window Decorations in TDE Control Center, or possibly in Appearance and Themes => Colors. And now I see that it is in Appearances and Themes => Colors. In the right pane, "Widget Color", select Active Window Frame and set your desired color by clicking on the horizontal bar below. Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.10 tde-config: 1.0

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Weird Kicker, Titlebar, mouse pointer behavior R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT)
by dep 08 Oct '21

08 Oct '21

Following this morning's apt upgrades and a reboot for unrelated reasons, I've encounted unexpected behavior with parts of TDE. First, when the desktop starts, the mouse pointer normally becomes considerably smaller, reflecting the change from whatever the login screen resolution is to the TDE desktop resolution for my 1920x2160 screen, but now it stays big. The Kicker panel and its icons remain the size they've always been, but the font both for Kicker applications -- taskbar, calendar, the actual menu in KMenu -- have become minuscule. Really tiny, as in 6pt. tiny. The title bar font has also become much smaller. There are no changes I've found in the behavior of the applications themselves. In fact, when I move the mouse pointer into an application it reverts to the normally smaller size. So this appears to apply to the desktop, window decorations, and Kicker only. I've made no configuration changes. Any idea where I should look to fix what seems to have gotten broken? I presume there's some setting that the items mentioned abnove have in common, but damned if I have been able to figure out what it is. I'm running R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT), which is pretty much always stable. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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[sorta solved] Re: Weird Kicker, Titlebar, mouse pointer behavior R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT)
by dep 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

said dep: | Following this morning's apt upgrades and a reboot for unrelated | reasons, I've encounted unexpected behavior with parts of TDE. | | First, when the desktop starts, the mouse pointer normally becomes | considerably smaller, reflecting the change from whatever the login | screen resolution is to the TDE desktop resolution for my 1920x2160 | screen, but now it stays big. | | The Kicker panel and its icons remain the size they've always been, but | the font both for Kicker applications -- taskbar, calendar, the actual | menu in KMenu -- have become minuscule. Really tiny, as in 6pt. tiny. | The title bar font has also become much smaller. | | There are no changes I've found in the behavior of the applications | themselves. In fact, when I move the mouse pointer into an application | it reverts to the normally smaller size. So this appears to apply to the | desktop, window decorations, and Kicker only. | | I've made no configuration changes. | | Any idea where I should look to fix what seems to have gotten broken? I | presume there's some setting that the items mentioned abnove have in | common, but damned if I have been able to figure out what it is. | | I'm running R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT), which is pretty much always stable. I changed mouse cursor themes -- I'd been using redglass because there's no reverse-color theme, alas, nor have I figured out how to make one -- and restarted TDE. Fonts returned to normal. Changed back to redglass. Restarted TDE. Mouse returned to normal. So. Would still love to know what caused the problem to begin with, though. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Re: Centralised EU censorship blocks mails !?
by dep 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

said Gianluca Interlandi: | Just wondering, is the issue with internet service providers (ISPs) | blocking the e-mails or is it the e-mail service companies? In the | latter case, would it solve it by switching to a different e-mail | service, e.g., from GMX to gmail or similar? Oh, and handing the mail over to Google is not something that accomplishes anything that any sane person would want to have. Google, for all its "want-some-candy-little-girl?" freebies, is evil. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Recommendations for TDE-compatible non-systemd distro?
by Steven D'Aprano 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

Hi folks, After about a year of being not very happy with Fedora 29, I am planning to bite the bullet and rebuild my desktop. This time I want to install something that works with TDE, and preferably not running systemd. Requirements: - my PC is a low-end machine with Intel i3 CPU - my Linux admin experience is low to medium (been using Linux for about 20 years, but mostly "if it works, don't fiddle with it") - I want to run TDE. What would you recommend? Thanks in advance, Steve

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Re: Centralised EU censorship blocks mails !? - background info
by William Morder 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

On Wednesday 06 October 2021 17:20:43 you wrote: > On Wed, 6 Oct 2021, William Morder wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 October 2021 16:35:20 you wrote: > >>> RMS gets a bad rap these days, but he was right about one basic idea: > >>> that our data ought never be collected in the first place. Once it is > >>> collected, with or without our permission, whether it is legal or > >>> illegal, then *somebody* out there will want it, and will have the > >>> means to get it. > >> > >> Who is RMS? > > > > Oh, sorry for the shorthand. > > > > Richard Stallman, one of main persons behind GNU/Linux. (Or, he would > > probably say, the *only* one, the sole creator ... ) You can discover > > more for yourself, as there are a lot of pages out there either written > > by him or about him. The FOSS or Open Source movement is rather a > > watered-down version of his original idea. > > Oh, I know him. I went to a presentation he gave at the ETH Zürich a long > time ago. At the end of his presentation he put on a gown and introduced > us to the "Church of Emacs"! He was certainly an inspiration. Sorry to > hear he gave himself a bad rap. > > Gianluca > > > He annoying at best, a jerk or asshole most of the time, and nowadays has > > got himself a bad reputation, and some of it is deserved. He says a lot > > of things that are, um, politically incorrect or worse. But he was right > > about this one idea, which is that we must stop these problems at their > > root. > > > > Bill Yes, it is too bad. My sense of him is that he is one of those stuck-back-in-the-1960s hippies who never moved on. I mean, he was still living in student residence dormitories (I believe it was) at his university until a couple years ago (aged in his mid-60s, but still living like a university student). And, like many a crusty old hippie I know from the generation before myself, he doesn't recognize that what sounded cool and hep back in the 1960s sounds, to a younger generation, inappropriate or offensive. People don't talk like that any more, but he is tone-deaf. He is one of that original pantheon of MIT geeks and hackers (in the "pure" sense of the word), and created emacs (I think it was), and other stuff that is fundamental to our present technology. So I give him due respect, but I can also see how he upsets some people, because he irked me, too. Still, on this basic idea, he is right, and it's getting harder to evade that point. Users can own their data only if they own their machines, and if the software is free/libre; to protect our communications and data, and to preserve our privacy, we must use encryption. Otherwise, we will slip gradually into having no privacy at all, then attempts to preserve our privacy are criminalized. It really comes down to a choice between one or the other. Then he fell into trouble with the "cancel culture" and Me-Too movement, etc., because he said some things that were objectionable. In any case, if he had thought twice about his words, he might have saved himself much pain and suffering, as his indiscretions got him removed from some positions (though now semi-rehabilitated and reinstated?), and also he lost his student housing arrangements, and now is living who knows where; although according to his home page he is now giving talks in Europe. Bill

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Screenshots for upcomming relase ..
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 06 Oct '21

06 Oct '21

May I submit a dark themed screenshot for the upcomming release? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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