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GRUB menu issue
by dep 08 Aug '21

08 Aug '21

This came up in conversation here a few days ago -- I was the one asking -- and there being a solution I thought I'd post it here. For reasons unknown, and that make no sense to me, the GRUB menu is not enabled by default in Ubuntu 20,04 and perhaps closely related distributions. To get it back, it's necessary to edit the default /etc/default/grub, changing GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE='hidden" to GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE="menu" and uncommenting GRUB_TERMINAL="console" and after that the GRUB menu is back at boot. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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As long as we're here . . .
by dep 08 Aug '21

08 Aug '21

. . . I have in my /boot directory four kernels -- the running one (5.4.0-80) -- and some rather hoary ones: 4.4.0-124, 3.13.0-147, and 3.13.0-126. i do not currently have nor do I imagine ever having need for the last three. Thought I'd get rid of 'em, but they do not show up in Ubuntu Cleaner or anything else capable of sending them to the bit bucket. So. Anybody know any reason I'd want to keep them and, absent such a reason, anybody know a quick and complete way of deleting them? Used to be they'd always at least show up in Synaptic, but not this time. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Anybody here using an SSD?
by dep 07 Aug '21

07 Aug '21

Hi, everybody! I'm giving some thought to putting an SSD in my desktop machine. The relatively small ones, ~500gb, have gotten pretty cheap, and they seem to be fairly reliable (though I can't say I utterly trust them, though traditional HDs aren't perfect in this regard, either). It seems that if properly employed, one could speed up my system considerably. But I thought I'd ask here before pushing the buy button. So . . . has anyone here used an SSD in a desktop machine? If so, what did you put on it? I have 20tb of storage on the machine, most of it big photo files, and I expect to keep all of it. Absent a compelling reason to the contrary, I'd keep ~/ on a conventional hard drive as well. My initial idea is putting the / partition and swap partitions on the thing, with everything home and below staying put. An additional consideration is my idea of keeping a fully current install where it is now, though not using it unless the SSD blows up. Is this reasonably easy to do, or would it be a giant pita? Anyone here have any experience doing this kind of thing? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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GSmartControl
by Edward 07 Aug '21

07 Aug '21

I just installed smartmontools and gsmartcontrol on one of my Debian systems and it will not launch from the TDE menu. When I then attempted to launch as sudo from a terminal window, this was the result: > sudo gsmartcontrol > No protocol specified > Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused > > (gsmartcontrol:3280): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:04:14.299: cannot open > display: :0 Is this not compatible with Trinity? -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)

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kpdf requesting pasword for passwordfree pdf
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 04 Aug '21

04 Aug '21

Hi all! Giving this PDF https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2304760.pdf kpdf requires a password to open it while firefox does not. Anybody knows the reason for this? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Two things, both on the same basic machine, a dell 7010
by Gene Heskett 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

Greetings all; 1. I was forced by an errant mill table trapping and crushing my last logitech K360 keyboard with a different keyboard, one which has a row of buttons across the top/rear that among other things includes a power switch, and another that apparently makes it hibernate. It is virtually impossible to pick up this keyboard and take it the 3 or 4 feet to the machine without inadvertently pressing one or more of these buttons. None of them are of any use around potentially dangerous machinery. This is a row of buttons above the F buttons which the control program running the machine makes liberal use of. I need to completely disable that whole row of buttons, or find a source of logitech NOS K-360's. How can I do that? Second, some debian ID10T has decreed that F10 is to bring up a useless to me menu, meaning the exit from mc now demands I find and pick up the $%#@&& mouse and use it to click on the F10 button at the bottom right of the mc screen. Where, in TDE do I find where that hijacking is being done so I can turn it off so I can run mc from the keyboard like I've been doing for 22 years? Thanks all. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Re: GTK 3 TQt Engine Styles
by dep 29 Jul '21

29 Jul '21

said Hunter: | GTK3 is an eyesore, but I guess Qt5 is as well. First, I'm on the list, so you needn't cc me. Second, just look at the latest Plasma desktop. It does nothing worth doing that KDE3 didn't do, but it makes those things far more complicated and difficult. In KDE3/TDE, if you want to add an application to Kicker, you drag it there. The end. In current KDE, there's a whole wad of incomprehensible crap you have to go through, and none of it is optional. Nor is this anything new. When the late, unlamented KOffice was coming along, it had filters that would import many file formats -- but not save in them! It would save only in its own little format, which made it entirely useless if the document were to be sent to anyone else. (It wasn't even good for documents you intended to print onto actual physical paper, because KPrinter kinda sucked (this was pre-CUPS). The boys were happy with themselves while users were wondering what the hell the boys were thinking. Asked about it, the boys would reply that if you weren't happy, you were free to write something else. This what I mean when I refer to "enthusiast development." You may or may not have been around during the great Qt war. Gnome had been rumored and promised for a long time and then, in the middle of 1998, along came KDE 1.0 and right out of the box it was great. But it wasn't reported or discussed as such. Instead, it was always "it will do until Gnome gets released." Then came the "and Qt isn't free" cries of doctrinal impurity, that on a whim Troll Tech could kill KDE or make people pay for it or something (as if the trolls were, say, going to become the reprehensible Darl McBride of Caldera). The trolls freed up Qt, at least to the extent that it was no longer even an imagined risk to KDE. Ah, but Gnome is going to be so great! Leading the charge in many ways was Miguel deIcaza, a brilliant programmer and along with Nat Friedman founder of Ximian. (I still have and occasionally wear one of their teeshirts, though I like my Progeny Linux Systems teeshirt more, because it draws comments from a better class of people, the Debian snobs.) Miguel truly is brilliant -- he's the guy who wrote Midnight Commander, a quarter century later still the single most essential application on any Linux machine. And he and Nat are really nice guys; I spent some time with them during the Ximian days, at their office in Boston. But they were both influential and unfair in their appraisal of KDE and Qt. Let it be noted that they both work now, as they have for years, at that bastion of free and open-source software, Microsoft. Much of that is an aside; my point is that the QT suspicion remains, which is the chief reason that Gnome and GTK are taken seriously. But another of the reasons is the attitude by the KDE developers. I remember when the KMail addressbook was a simple, human-editable text file comprising name and email address. (This was when just about everything in Linux was configured by simple, human-editable text files, the passing of which I still mourn. Opening a file in a text editor and scrolling down to change the value of "scrollbar-width=10" gave users enormous power that we no longer have.) The boys decided to make it more elaborate and simply eliminate support for the old format. That was bad enough; worse, their brilliant new addressbook *didn't work*! I remember staying up nights hacking the new KMail to get it to use the old addressbook. The boys not only didn't like this, they were snotty in their boasting about their new addressbook which, again, *didn't work*. They took the same attitude when they made the (fatal, in my estimation) file format decision in KOffice; by the time that got sorted out we had StarOffice, then OpenOffice, then OpenOffice.org, and finally LibreOffice. Perhaps realizing that the Gnomes had no fair criticisms of KDE to offer, the boys set about creating some entirely fair criticisms of KDE. So now both desktops in their current manifestations do whatever they damn well please rather than allow users choices in these things. Gnome can do it because, hey, it's Gnome and freeeeeee unlike Qt-tainted KDE; KCE does it because the boys will be the boys. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Re: [users] Kmail settings - threaded emails by folder?
by J Leslie Turriff 29 Jul '21

29 Jul '21

On 2021-07-26 19:39:09 William Morder via tde-users wrote: > I did try changing Kmail configuration to organize all emails by threads. > This would be helpful for TDE's mailing list; however, I must choose to > organize all emails by threads, or none, and cannot choose only TDE's > folder to be threaded. There are two ways to set threading: in Settings => Configure => Appearance, tab Message List (presumably a global setting) in Folder => Thread Messages (folder-specific) and Folder => Thread Messages also by Sender (folder-specific) Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.10 tde-config: 1.0

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GTK 3 TQt Engine Styles
by Hunter 28 Jul '21

28 Jul '21

I use a GTK 3 application ("Revolt" on Debian/Devuan) and its titlebar is so ugly. I tried to use my TDE style for it in "GTK Styles and Fonts" and it only makes it worse. GTK 2 applications look much nicer with Tqt3 integration, but GTK 3... It's an eyesore no matter what, to say the least. This brings me to my question - is there any way to make GTK 3 apps integrate more nicely into TDE? I have gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity installed but there's only the default style available or use my TDE theme for it (which breaks it and makes it look worse).

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Error message after plugging and then un-plugging a USB disk
by Gianluca Interlandi 28 Jul '21

28 Jul '21

Hi! I plugged in a USB disk to TDE, copied several files and then unplugged it. Then, I rebooted the system. I now see this error message when I type `df -h` (1140 is my user ID): /home/gianluca> df df: /run/user/1140/doc: Operation not permitted Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on devtmpfs 2824632 0 2824632 0% /dev tmpfs 2835156 0 2835156 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 2835156 17956 2817200 1% /run tmpfs 2835156 0 2835156 0% /sys/fs/cgroup /dev/sda6 20511312 10431312 9015040 54% / /dev/sda1 516040 45044 444784 10% /boot /dev/sda5 5095040 624840 4191672 13% /var /dev/sda4 925802616 120391380 758313244 14% /home tmpfs 567028 12 567016 1% /run/user/1140 It lookes like the filesystem did not get unmounted correctly: /home/gianluca> cat /etc/mtab tmpfs /run/user/1140 tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=567028k,mode=700,uid=1140,gid=100 0 0 gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1140/gvfs fuse.gvfsd-fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1140,group_id=100 0 0 fusectl /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw,relatime 0 0 portal /run/user/1140/doc fuse.portal rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1140,group_id=100 0 0 And also: If run as root: /home/gianluca> ls -lt /run/user/1140 ls: cannot access '/run/user/1140/doc': Permission denied ls: cannot access '/run/user/1140/gvfs': Permission denied total 0 -rw-r----- 1 gianluca users 0 2021-07-15 18:55 pipewire-0.lock drwx------ 2 gianluca users 60 2021-07-15 18:54 dconf drwx------ 2 gianluca users 80 2021-07-15 18:54 pulse drwx------ 3 gianluca users 60 2021-07-15 18:54 dbus-1 srw-rw-rw- 1 gianluca users 0 2021-07-15 18:54 pipewire-0 srw-rw-rw- 1 gianluca users 0 2021-07-15 18:54 bus drwxr-xr-x 3 gianluca users 100 2021-07-15 18:54 systemd d????????? ? ? ? ? ? doc d????????? ? ? ? ? ? gvfs It run as user: /home/gianluca> ls -lt /run/user/1140 total 0 -rw-r----- 1 gianluca users 0 2021-07-15 18:55 pipewire-0.lock drwx------ 2 gianluca users 60 2021-07-15 18:54 dconf dr-x------ 2 gianluca users 0 2021-07-15 18:54 gvfs drwx------ 2 gianluca users 80 2021-07-15 18:54 pulse drwx------ 3 gianluca users 60 2021-07-15 18:54 dbus-1 srw-rw-rw- 1 gianluca users 0 2021-07-15 18:54 pipewire-0 srw-rw-rw- 1 gianluca users 0 2021-07-15 18:54 bus drwxr-xr-x 3 gianluca users 100 2021-07-15 18:54 systemd dr-x------ 2 gianluca users 0 1969-12-31 16:00 doc Any idea how I can fix this? Thanks, Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/ Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------

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