27 Feb
2022
27 Feb
'22
8:23 p.m.
On Sunday, February 27, 2022 1:01:06 PM EST E. Liddell wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 10:59:33 -0500
gene heskett <gheskett(a)shentel.net> wrote:
idVendor 0x0403 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd
idProduct 0x6001 FT232 Serial (UART) IC
idVendor 0x0403 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd
idProduct 0x6001 FT232 Serial (UART) IC
That device seems to be the device triggering all this hate and
discontent, but the differences in priority of whats to be done boggles
my mind.
I have done around 20 installs, which include finding, unpacking a
copying back to where they belong each time I thought I had whupped it
this time. Thats around a 40 hour day per install.
Two of those are plugged in but in all the hubs laying on the floor, I
have no idea which cable is actually those 2. And I can see 3 hubs from
this chair. Now if we had an lsusb utility that told us which port of
which hub it was plugged into...
I don't want to lose that data yet again, but while the installer can
find the partitions and the raifd10 just fine, it will not proceed with
the install unless it can format a goodly number of gigabytes of data
away yet again... I've been doing these from scratch installs since early
October last year. This stuff can be removed with the package manager,
but it will not remove the startup stuff that stops a reboot from
proceeding past the 10 second mark because the startup stuff has not been
removed too, so the only way I could reboot was to install it all new,
which of course put it back in.
I asked how to get rid of it gracefully several times and was either
ignored, or was given advice that was totally unrelated to the problem
but all of which involved doing yet another install.
Surely whats been installed should be removable without destroying the
rest of the system? But that approach isn't on the menu.
Yet I'm to blame for my frustration?
Debian made this situation, and debian s/b willing to help without me
embarking on yet another multiday install and data recovery that takes
days to get it all back. I have another SSD the netinstall could be
copied to and booted from if I could figure out how to bypass the iso
9660 stuff, and that could be edited to bypass this stuff, but no one at
debian in a position to actually fix it wants to help me do that. In
fairness to debian I have not specifically asked about that possibility.
Thank you, take care and stay well, E. Liddell
someplace in my USB tree, there's at least
one, and probably more,
FDTI usb to serial adaptors that the installer THINKS is a Braille
driver, so it, without asking, installs brltty and orca, the speech
enabled screen reader no one can understand. And it, if you remove
the stuff after the install is done, will NOT reboot past the 10
second mark in the boot log cuz its stuck looking for that crap and
can't find it.
Very damned distracting when its trying to pronounce every key you
type and no one knows how to remove it without filling the boot
drive with>
/var/log/syslog until the system is unusable because of the lags
imposed>
by opening the log when its 50+ megabytes 18 hours after the install,
search for the end of it, writing 9 or 10 more lines of error
messages
and closing the log, for every keystroke typed.
The only fix I've found that lets my machine stay up for a few days,
(uptime is 7+ days atm) is to find the .conf files in /etc, and
direct
all that error output to /dev/null. That leaves one line of errors
still going to syslog about every 20 seconds as something in
systemd.d keeps looking for the speech dispatcher over blue tooth,
and there isn't any of that except the keyboad and mouse.
Sounds like you need to kill the service(s) involved using whatever
systemd's equivalent of rc-update is (or overwrite the service files
with no-ops and then make them unwritable so they can't be changed),
blacklist any kernel modules involved, and possibly write some udev
rules to force the problem device to be properly identified. Rather a
tedious process that would have to start with identifying the problem
device and its USB ID. E. Liddell
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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One of the things I have not yet restored.